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Thursday, July 05, 2018

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 7-5-2018

Philadelphia Evening Ledger, July 5, 2018:

It’s worth the price of admission to see this husky young person [Ruth] clout the pill. He is so sincere when he whangs the ball that every one on the field is pulling for him.
...
Babe probably holds the record for hitting the longest sacrifice fly in the history of baseball. In Boston on April 19 of this year he stepped up to the plate with one out and Scott on second. Ruth leaned against one of Ed Monroe’s benders and hammered a long fly to right field. It was a murderous clout not only for distance, but for altitude as well. Gilhooley retreated to the fence, which is about three city blocks from the home plate, and caught the ball on the run. He had to straighten up before throwing the ball to Pratt, who ran out to the position the right fielder usually occupies, and the relay reached the plate too late to get Scott.
...
At the Polo Grounds this swat would have cleared the top of the right field stands, and would have counted for two home runs on the Phillies’ grounds.

Fenway’s right field power alley at the time was 405 feet from home plate, which is an unremarkable clout for a husky young person in 2018, but a sincere whang in 1918.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 11:32 AM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 11:35 AM (#5705513)
A nice pitching staff on today's Birthday Team, if they can avoid losing their cool at the guy attempting to catch. Fun thing I learned today: If you type "clank" into the search bar at BBRef, it immediately takes you to Curt Blefary's page.

"Catcher": Curt Blefary (11.04 WAR)
1B: Gordy Coleman (7.45 WAR)
2B: Jack Farrell (18.67 WAR)
3B: Jim Baxes (1.01 WAR)
SS: Jorge Polanco (2.94 WAR)
LF: Gary Matthews Sr. (30.43 WAR)
CF: Beals Becker (7.96 WAR)
RF: Ward Miller (9.29 WAR)

SP: Rich Gossage (41.41 WAR)
SP: Bump Hadley (35.63 WAR)
SP: Marco Estrada (13.3 WAR)
SP: Hod Eller (9.8 WAR)
SP: Lee Viau (9.53 WAR)
RP: Jesse Crain (11.39 WAR)
RP: Tim Worrell (8.73 WAR)

Manager: Bo Porter
Owner/Destroyed American soccer for 70 years: Charles Stoneham
Top prospect: Shohei Ohtani (1.95 WAR)
Arbitrator: Don Wollett
Designated submariner: Jeff Innis (4.55 WAR)
Fun name: Chub Aubrey
Pitching coach: Dave Eiland
   2. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 11:42 AM (#5705516)
Destroyed American soccer for 70 years

Too bad it wasn't 700.
   3. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 11:43 AM (#5705518)
Too bad it wasn't 700.
That was Klinsmann.
   4. VCar Posted: July 05, 2018 at 11:52 AM (#5705524)
Funny to see Goose as the #1 SP on today's team. About 3 WAR accumulated as a SP and the rest as a RP.
   5. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 12:23 PM (#5705542)
Yeah, I don't love Goose as the Opening Day starter, but either Gossage or Worrell was going into the rotation and I figured they'd want the better pitcher getting all those extra innings.
   6. caspian88 Posted: July 05, 2018 at 01:09 PM (#5705559)
The key takeaway from the daily articles posted on the Dugout for me is that journalists actually used to write like that.

Also that Babe Ruth was quite the sensation.
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 05, 2018 at 01:24 PM (#5705566)
The key takeaway from the daily articles posted on the Dugout for me is that journalists actually used to write like that.
Yeah, it's been a while since we've seen any player give a ball a sincere whanging.
   8. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 01:40 PM (#5705576)
The key takeaway from the daily articles posted on the Dugout for me is that journalists actually used to write like that.

Philadelphia Evening Ledger, July 5, 2018:

What's more gobsmacking to me is that a scribe for the Philadelphia Evening Ledger gave such a hearty whanging to the old typewriter as to promulgate this prolix prose on this very day.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 01:42 PM (#5705578)
The key takeaway from the daily articles posted on the Dugout for me is that journalists actually used to write like that.

They should go back to it. Much more entertaining than what we have today.
   10. eric Posted: July 05, 2018 at 01:52 PM (#5705582)
When did "pill" fall by the wayside as a term for a baseball? I kind of like it and would like to bring it back.
   11. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: July 05, 2018 at 01:53 PM (#5705585)
They should go back to it. Much more entertaining than what we have today.

The BBWAA still has plenty of whangs.
   12. PreservedFish Posted: July 05, 2018 at 01:57 PM (#5705586)
They should go back to it. Much more entertaining than what we have today.

Innumerable wacky synonyms were a necessity back when narrative recaps were essentially the only way the most people followed the game. Now we have video.
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 01:59 PM (#5705587)
Innumerable wacky synonyms were a necessity back when narrative recaps were essentially the only way the most people followed the game. Now we have video.

I rarely watch a video highlight of a game. I either see it live, or read about it.
   14. dlf Posted: July 05, 2018 at 02:29 PM (#5705596)
When did "pill" fall by the wayside as a term for a baseball? I kind of like it and would like to bring it back.


Joe Posnanski wrote a recent piece titled "Centering the Pill" which was a discussion about the core of the baseball.
   15. PreservedFish Posted: July 05, 2018 at 02:55 PM (#5705617)
I rarely watch a video highlight of a game. I either see it live, or read about it.


Your proud Luddism is well known, sir.
   16. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 03:00 PM (#5705622)
Your proud Luddism is well known, sir.

:-)

Hey, I am doing much of the reading online.
   17. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: July 05, 2018 at 03:16 PM (#5705635)
When the Ruthian cudgel met the pill, the report awoke several avian residents of Fenway Park, much to the discomfort of the cranks in the right field stand, one would surmise.
   18. Walt Davis Posted: July 05, 2018 at 08:21 PM (#5705735)
Funny to see Goose as the #1 SP on today's team

It's a Tampa thing.

Yeah, it's been a while since we've seen any player give a ball a sincere whanging.

Depends what part of the internet you hang out on.

Also that Babe Ruth was quite the sensation.

I hadn't realized either how well recognized he was for his hitting at this early stage of his career. Obviously it would have been kinda hard to miss but I guess maybe I'd expect more skepticism.

When did "pill" fall by the wayside as a term for a baseball?

War on Drugs ... I think I'm semi-serious.

   19. Walt Davis Posted: July 05, 2018 at 08:32 PM (#5705738)
If you type "clank" into the search bar at BBRef, it immediately takes you to Curt Blefary's page.

'Twas a nickname supposedly. Some other explorations:

whoops
Tripp Sigman and Tripp Cromer
Boots Day
Harry "Slippery" Eells (eels!) ... also Roy "Slippery" Ellam, maybe he pronounced it eelam.

thud: nothing
oops: nothing
ugh: nothing
bobble: nothing
lots of other stuff: nothing

   20. Leroy Kincaid Posted: July 06, 2018 at 06:23 AM (#5705822)
Destroyed American soccer for 70 years


An American hero.
   21. Tom T Posted: July 06, 2018 at 07:49 AM (#5705830)
Roy "Slippery" Ellam, maybe he pronounced it eelam.


I would assume he pronounced it closer to "elm"...probably swallowing the 'a' sound. (Sorry, nearly 25 years since my course on speech production and phonetics from Stevens and Keyser, so no longer up on the symbols.)

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