Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Tuesday, July 08, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 7-8-2014

Washington Times, July 8, 1914:

While [Baltimore owner] Jack Dunn will not admit it, deals have been practically consummated by which Shortstop Claude [sic] Derrick and Outfielder George Twombley [sic], of the Orioles, will soon be wearing Cincinnati uniforms, while Birdie Cree, the highest priced fielder in the International League, will go to the New York Americans.
...
With the information concerning the probable sale of Derrick and Twombley also come several other rumors. One is to the effect that President Lannin, of the Red Sox, offered Dunnie a big pile for Ruth, Shore, and Twombley. The Oriole leader, however, denied that Lannin had made any proposition, and added that the Red Sox did not want any of the Orioles.

That’s probably for the best. I can’t imagine that Ruth guy being a good ballplayer.

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 08, 2014 at 07:52 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: babe ruth, dugout, ernie shore, history

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 08, 2014 at 07:54 AM (#4745869)
Not a great Birthday Team, but they do have the market cornered on Hall of Fame pitcher/manager/umpires.

C: Ivey Wingo
1B: John Bowker
2B: Josh Harrison
3B: Hector Lopez
SS: George Fallon
LF: Al Spangler
CF: Jerome Walton
RF: Terry Puhl

SP/Manager/Umpire: Hank O'Day
SP: Clint Brown
SP: Buttons Briggs
SP: Jaime Garcia
SP: George Culver
RP: Ken Sanders

Backup Catcher: Alan Ashby
Quad-A Star: Ernie Young
Fun Names: Salty Parker, Lerrin LaGrow, Garland Kiser, Rowdy Elliott, Jim Bluejacket, Clyde Barfoot
   2. Rennie's Tenet Posted: July 08, 2014 at 08:20 AM (#4745874)
Quite a week for Josh Harrison!

One factor leading to the sale of Ruth was that Jack Dunn had gone out in the offseason and acquired good minor leaguers to bolster the Orioles in anticipation of a battle with the Federal League Terrapins. He succeeded on the field, but in the face of major league competition his attendance cratered and he had to turn to player sales for revenue.
   3. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 08, 2014 at 08:36 AM (#4745883)
Yeah, just in this article alone, you've got Babe Ruth, Ernie Shore, and Birdie Cree playing on the same minor league team. Cree isn't famous, but he was a heckuva ballplayer: 125 career OPS+, could play CF, once hit 22 triples in a season.

That's a terrific IL team even if you surround those three with league-average players, but the 1914 Orioles also had guys like Allen Russell, Neal Ball, Bert Daniels, and Dave Danforth, who were all solid big leaguers.
   4. Random Transaction Generator Posted: July 08, 2014 at 09:18 AM (#4745914)
   5. kthejoker Posted: July 08, 2014 at 12:40 PM (#4746083)
Damn that's a great play, Jeter. Almost as good as Damon taking third that one time.

Every trick in the book ...
   6. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: July 08, 2014 at 12:54 PM (#4746107)
I'm not sure Jeter's fake made any difference. It looked like they had a hit and run on or Kipnis was trying to steal second and he just didn't look up to find the ball. That was 99% on Kipnis.
   7. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 08, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4746203)
#4--If A-Rod had done it, they'd be chastising him for cheating!
   8. Born1951 Posted: July 08, 2014 at 02:13 PM (#4746205)
If the season ended today for Wade Davis, he would be the first pitcher not to allow an extra base hit (minimum 35 IP) since Cisco Carlos in 1967.
   9. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 08, 2014 at 02:16 PM (#4746208)
#8--Very cool find!

Digging through the box score, I see that Carlos's streak lasted all the way to.....his very first inning of 1968, when YAZ hit a 2-out homer.
   10. Batman Posted: July 08, 2014 at 03:12 PM (#4746248)
If the season ended today for Wade Davis, he would be the first pitcher not to allow an extra base hit (minimum 35 IP) since Cisco Carlos in 1967.
If Davis gives up an XBH, Carlos would remain the only member of that club, at least since 1914. Matt Smith is next on the list with 20.2 IP for the Yankees and Phililes in 2006. Smith gave up a double in his fifth appearance the next year for his only career XBH given up, but he was done by the end of April 2007.
   11. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: July 08, 2014 at 05:00 PM (#4746422)
The Game of 7/7/84 featured a pitching matchup that did not work out as might have been expected in the long term. The pitcher who was both older and worse at the time of this game pitched well, but did so in a way that offered absolutely no hint of what was to come...
   12. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: July 08, 2014 at 07:03 PM (#4746585)
The Game of 7/7/14 was started by a pitcher who is incredibly consistently inconsistent, to an extent that I'd be curious as to whether P-I could construct a search to ascertain its potential record status. He landed on the good side of inconsistent in this one (as he has the rest of this year so far), and his teammates helped him out with another one of those weird games where nobody has more than one hit.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Rough Carrigan
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogTrading Justin Upton means the Braves are in full rebuilding mode | Mark Bradley blog
(73 - 7:12pm, Dec 19)
Last: Moeball

NewsblogAmazin' Avenue - Cohen: Mets and Rockies discussing Troy Tulowitzki deal with Noah Syndergaard as the centerpiece
(29 - 7:10pm, Dec 19)
Last: No Maas Cashman

NewsblogOT: Politics - December 2014: Baseball & Politics Collide in New Thriller
(5044 - 7:10pm, Dec 19)
Last: Monty

NewsblogJerry Crasnick on Twitter: "Jake Peavy has agreed on 2 yr deal with
(9 - 7:02pm, Dec 19)
Last: AT-AT at bat@AT&T

NewsblogThe 2015 HOF Ballot Collecting Gizmo!
(110 - 7:02pm, Dec 19)
Last: Kiko Sakata

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - December 2014
(739 - 7:02pm, Dec 19)
Last: Booey

NewsblogHow the Rays lost the City Council vote - DRaysBay
(4 - 6:55pm, Dec 19)
Last: RMc is a fine piece of cheese

NewsblogMax Scherzer not a realistic option, New York Yankees' Randy Levine says - ESPN New York
(66 - 6:47pm, Dec 19)
Last: bobm

NewsblogThe 4 surprisingly quiet teams of the MLB offseason
(26 - 6:43pm, Dec 19)
Last: bobm

NewsblogFull Count ยป Source: Red Sox close to deal sending Will Middlebrooks to Padres for Ryan Hanigan
(8 - 6:14pm, Dec 19)
Last: Lars6788

NewsblogOT: NFL/NHL thread
(9173 - 5:25pm, Dec 19)
Last: Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor

NewsblogOT: Wrestling Thread November 2014
(159 - 5:04pm, Dec 19)
Last: NJ in DC (Now with Wife!)

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1960 Ballot
(10 - 4:34pm, Dec 19)
Last: DL from MN

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 12-19-2014
(9 - 3:17pm, Dec 19)
Last: RoyalsRetro (AG#1F)

NewsblogRoyals sign Kris Medlen to two-year deal - MLB Daily Dish
(31 - 3:11pm, Dec 19)
Last: Dan Lee is some pumkins

Page rendered in 0.2400 seconds
48 querie(s) executed