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Tuesday, July 08, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 7-8-2014

Washington Times, July 8, 1914:

While [Baltimore owner] Jack Dunn will not admit it, deals have been practically consummated by which Shortstop Claude [sic] Derrick and Outfielder George Twombley [sic], of the Orioles, will soon be wearing Cincinnati uniforms, while Birdie Cree, the highest priced fielder in the International League, will go to the New York Americans.
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With the information concerning the probable sale of Derrick and Twombley also come several other rumors. One is to the effect that President Lannin, of the Red Sox, offered Dunnie a big pile for Ruth, Shore, and Twombley. The Oriole leader, however, denied that Lannin had made any proposition, and added that the Red Sox did not want any of the Orioles.

That’s probably for the best. I can’t imagine that Ruth guy being a good ballplayer.

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 08, 2014 at 07:52 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: babe ruth, dugout, ernie shore, history

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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 08, 2014 at 07:54 AM (#4745869)
Not a great Birthday Team, but they do have the market cornered on Hall of Fame pitcher/manager/umpires.

C: Ivey Wingo
1B: John Bowker
2B: Josh Harrison
3B: Hector Lopez
SS: George Fallon
LF: Al Spangler
CF: Jerome Walton
RF: Terry Puhl

SP/Manager/Umpire: Hank O'Day
SP: Clint Brown
SP: Buttons Briggs
SP: Jaime Garcia
SP: George Culver
RP: Ken Sanders

Backup Catcher: Alan Ashby
Quad-A Star: Ernie Young
Fun Names: Salty Parker, Lerrin LaGrow, Garland Kiser, Rowdy Elliott, Jim Bluejacket, Clyde Barfoot
   2. Rennie's Tenet Posted: July 08, 2014 at 08:20 AM (#4745874)
Quite a week for Josh Harrison!

One factor leading to the sale of Ruth was that Jack Dunn had gone out in the offseason and acquired good minor leaguers to bolster the Orioles in anticipation of a battle with the Federal League Terrapins. He succeeded on the field, but in the face of major league competition his attendance cratered and he had to turn to player sales for revenue.
   3. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 08, 2014 at 08:36 AM (#4745883)
Yeah, just in this article alone, you've got Babe Ruth, Ernie Shore, and Birdie Cree playing on the same minor league team. Cree isn't famous, but he was a heckuva ballplayer: 125 career OPS+, could play CF, once hit 22 triples in a season.

That's a terrific IL team even if you surround those three with league-average players, but the 1914 Orioles also had guys like Allen Russell, Neal Ball, Bert Daniels, and Dave Danforth, who were all solid big leaguers.
   4. Random Transaction Generator Posted: July 08, 2014 at 09:18 AM (#4745914)
   5. kthejoker Posted: July 08, 2014 at 12:40 PM (#4746083)
Damn that's a great play, Jeter. Almost as good as Damon taking third that one time.

Every trick in the book ...
   6. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: July 08, 2014 at 12:54 PM (#4746107)
I'm not sure Jeter's fake made any difference. It looked like they had a hit and run on or Kipnis was trying to steal second and he just didn't look up to find the ball. That was 99% on Kipnis.
   7. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 08, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4746203)
#4--If A-Rod had done it, they'd be chastising him for cheating!
   8. Born1951 Posted: July 08, 2014 at 02:13 PM (#4746205)
If the season ended today for Wade Davis, he would be the first pitcher not to allow an extra base hit (minimum 35 IP) since Cisco Carlos in 1967.
   9. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 08, 2014 at 02:16 PM (#4746208)
#8--Very cool find!

Digging through the box score, I see that Carlos's streak lasted all the way to.....his very first inning of 1968, when YAZ hit a 2-out homer.
   10. Batman Posted: July 08, 2014 at 03:12 PM (#4746248)
If the season ended today for Wade Davis, he would be the first pitcher not to allow an extra base hit (minimum 35 IP) since Cisco Carlos in 1967.
If Davis gives up an XBH, Carlos would remain the only member of that club, at least since 1914. Matt Smith is next on the list with 20.2 IP for the Yankees and Phililes in 2006. Smith gave up a double in his fifth appearance the next year for his only career XBH given up, but he was done by the end of April 2007.
   11. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: July 08, 2014 at 05:00 PM (#4746422)
The Game of 7/7/84 featured a pitching matchup that did not work out as might have been expected in the long term. The pitcher who was both older and worse at the time of this game pitched well, but did so in a way that offered absolutely no hint of what was to come...
   12. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: July 08, 2014 at 07:03 PM (#4746585)
The Game of 7/7/14 was started by a pitcher who is incredibly consistently inconsistent, to an extent that I'd be curious as to whether P-I could construct a search to ascertain its potential record status. He landed on the good side of inconsistent in this one (as he has the rest of this year so far), and his teammates helped him out with another one of those weird games where nobody has more than one hit.

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