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Wednesday, July 09, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 7-9-2014

Pittsburgh Press, July 9, 1914:

Ossie E. Schreckengost, aged 39, better known as “Schreck,” former battery mate of “Rube” Waddell, died here today of a complication of diseases. Although ill for the past two years, his condition was not considered serious until yesterday, when he collapsed in a cafe.
...
He caught for the Mackmen 10 years.

Waddell passed away in April 1914, just three months before his batterymate. Seems odd that a pitcher and catcher who worked together so frequently would die young so close to each other.

Schrecongost (there are a number of spellings that get used, but this is what BB-Ref uses) was a pretty good player. Played 11 years in the majors, career .271 hitter, top ten in the league in dWAR three times. Got some mild HOF support for a few years, but was never a legitimate candidate.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 09, 2014 at 08:16 AM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 09, 2014 at 08:19 AM (#4746785)
Good news for fans of today's Birthday Team: The payroll won't be high enough for John Moores to have to cut it in order to pay for his divorce.

Bad news: The team's really pretty bad.

C: Miguel Montero
1B: Turner Barber
2B: Mike Andrews
3B/Manager: Buck Herzog
SS: Sonny Jackson
LF: Wally Post
CF: Willie Wilson
RF: Glenn Myatt

SP: Jack Powell
SP: George Stone
SP: Tex Clevenger
SP: Guy Hoffman
SP: Steve Luebber
RP: Carl Holling

Owner: John Moores
Fun Name: Coot Veal
Not that one: Bud Black
   2. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 09, 2014 at 09:12 AM (#4746799)
so the brewers are in a bit of funk. the offense finally shows up highlighted by a lyle overbay grand slam of all things but wily peralta for reasons not clearly understood is left in the game to get battered head to toe and the crew loses 9-7

whatchagonnado? garza stepped forward to lock down a 1-0 win a few days ago. somebody else is going to have to help.
   3. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 09, 2014 at 09:42 AM (#4746813)
The Mackmen is one of the greatest team nicknames ever. I wish someone would bring that back: The Blackmen, the Weissmen, the Maddonmen, the Hurdlemen.
   4. Coot Veal and Cot Deal taste like Old Bay Posted: July 09, 2014 at 09:48 AM (#4746817)
Fun Name: Coot Veal


Coot was the first-ever expansion Washington Senator to come to the plate, facing Early Wynn at Griffith Stadium on April 10, 1961.

edit- actually, Veal was the first expansion team player (post 1900) to come to bat... the Angels played their first game the following day.
   5. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 09, 2014 at 10:17 AM (#4746830)
I wish someone would bring that back: The Blackmen, the Weissmen, the Maddonmen, the Hurdlemen.
The Gardenhiremen could make some extra money on the side as a landscaping company.
   6. Kiko Sakata Posted: July 09, 2014 at 10:19 AM (#4746834)
The Mackmen is one of the greatest team nicknames ever. I wish someone would bring that back: The Blackmen, the Weissmen, the Maddonmen, the Hurdlemen.


My favorite team nickname of this style: during the 1940's, when Mel Ott was managing them, the New York Giants were frequently referred to in newspapers as the Otters.
   7. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 09, 2014 at 10:21 AM (#4746836)
the New York Giants were frequently referred to in newspapers as the Otters.
That's fantastic. I knew that the Brooklyn "Robins" were named after Wilbert Robinson, but I was unfamiliar with the Otters.
   8. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 09, 2014 at 10:27 AM (#4746842)
The Arizona Gibsons sounds very old-timey.

Oakland Melvins
Detroit Ausmi
Chicago Robins

Before being the Sandbergers, Philly's Nationals were long dubbed the Manuel Laborers. Which would have been one of those fan groups at Veterans Stadium.
   9. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 09, 2014 at 10:29 AM (#4746844)
The Cleveland Wedgies.

If only.
   10. Lindor Truffles Posted: July 09, 2014 at 10:58 AM (#4746868)
What about when sandy Alomar closed out the season post-Acta, Alomartians?
   11. Rennie's Tenet Posted: July 09, 2014 at 11:06 AM (#4746876)
the Hurdlemen.


It's "Hurdlers."
   12. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 09, 2014 at 11:40 AM (#4746910)
The Minnesota Gardens.
The San Diego Blacks.
The Baltimore Bucks.
The Chicago Renters.
   13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 09, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4746913)
The Kansas City Rusty Kuntz
   14. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: July 09, 2014 at 11:48 AM (#4746918)
Cleveland Titotalers.
Seattle McLendonmen
Houston Bo-Hunks
Washington Mattys
   15. mathesond Posted: July 09, 2014 at 12:58 PM (#4746991)
Toronto Gibbers
   16. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 09, 2014 at 02:08 PM (#4747085)
The recent history of at least the N.L. East would be very different, as my guess is Atlanta would have had a difficult time signing free agents while Bobby Cox was managing.
   17. BDC Posted: July 09, 2014 at 02:14 PM (#4747095)
Ron Washington Senators, I suppose.

EDIT: What was the last example of that practice? I guess Billyball and Whiteyball are related terms.
   18. Chris Fluit Posted: July 09, 2014 at 03:11 PM (#4747141)
Harvey's Wallbangers are another modern example.
   19. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 09, 2014 at 03:27 PM (#4747160)
Thing that maybe I already knew about the '89 World Series, but had forgotten: The Giants hit four home runs in the series. They were hit by Kevin Mitchell, Matt Williams...Bill Bathe and Greg Litton.

Because of course.
   20. Random Transaction Generator Posted: July 09, 2014 at 03:33 PM (#4747168)
Toronto Gibbers


Toronto Gibbies, you mean.
   21. mathesond Posted: July 09, 2014 at 04:44 PM (#4747300)
Toronto Gibbies, you mean.


Or Toronto Gibberish, if you don't require plurals
   22. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: July 09, 2014 at 05:05 PM (#4747340)
The Game of 7/8/84 was a pitching matchup between two Hall of Famers... which did not work out quite how one might have expected going in (in a seven home runs kind of way). It did, however, feature very good games from each team's best hitter, plus an incidental guest appearance from the Clash.
   23. AndrewJ Posted: July 09, 2014 at 06:42 PM (#4747477)
During the 1920s the New York Times, in its headlines, frequently referred to the Yankees as the "Hugmen." The Gray Lady should bring this sobriquet back.
   24. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: July 09, 2014 at 07:23 PM (#4747532)
The Game of 7/8/14 featured two starting pitchers who would almost be opposites if they threw with different hands and their age differential were a bit larger. It's also the latest entry in a burgeoning rivalry, and included starring roles for several players who will hopefully be a part of that rivalry for some time.
   25. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili (TeddyF.Ballgame) Posted: July 09, 2014 at 08:23 PM (#4747581)
I recall the Piniella-led Mariners of the '90s being referred to occasionally as Lou's Crew.

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