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Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 8-24-2011

St. Joseph News-Press, August 24, 1911:

[Long] Tom Hughes, pitcher of the Washington baseball team in the American League, and Edward Johnson, a Chicago artist, fought in an alley back of a downtown hotel last night until arrested.  Both men took a severe drubbing and were bleeding freely.

Johnson criticized Hughes’ pitching in Tuesday’s game against the Chicago team…Hughes is said to have suggested that he and Johnson settle their differences by a fisticuff.  “You’re on,” Johnson replied.  “If you can’t fight any better than you pitch, I’ll win easily.”

The Toledo News-Bee declared the fight a draw.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 24, 2011 at 09:42 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. vortex of dissipation Posted: August 24, 2011 at 11:03 AM (#3907651)
The Toledo News-Bee declared the fight a draw.

On the same page, there's an article about Giants mascot Charlie Faust. Faust's story (he actually got to pitch in two games, although he had no athletic talent whatsoever) is truly one of the most incredible in the history of baseball. I still can't decide if it's one of the saddest, or one of the most amusing...
   2. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 24, 2011 at 11:31 AM (#3907661)
I could not help but notice the following:

Edwin Encarnacion is killing the ball since the ASB. .317/.427/.548

So is Frenchy. .317/.389/.525

Mike Carp. Mike Carp?? .333/.372/.566 with 29 rbi
   3. Coot Veal and Cot Deal taste like Old Bay Posted: August 24, 2011 at 12:24 PM (#3907671)
In 1940, August 24 was a Saturday, and on Saturday, August 24, 1940, Ted Williams was a pitcher.

box score
   4. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: August 24, 2011 at 01:04 PM (#3907680)
He played left when Ibanez got hurt, and he played first base last night while Ryan Howard rested a bum foot. Amaro has raised the possibility, however distant, that Mayberry could get a look at third base in a future season.

When informed of this by reporters, Mayberry, who hasn't played the position since high school, did his best to hide his gulp and said, "Anything that gets me on the field."

Read more:

this needs to happen.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 24, 2011 at 01:51 PM (#3907709)
Dammit. Had a choice of picking up Mayberry or Nyjer Morgan in my fantasy league this week, and I went with Nyjer. Then Mayberry hits a HR, now may be eligible at 3B!
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 24, 2011 at 05:27 PM (#3907900)
Jim Thome, Jason Kubel, Heath Bell all claimed off waivers. Speculation is Thome was claimed by the White Sox.
   7. The District Attorney Posted: August 24, 2011 at 05:41 PM (#3907916)
I dunno, aren't OF ? 3B conversions a notorious bad gamble? Especially if the guy hasn't ever really played there before.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 24, 2011 at 06:22 PM (#3907945)
Giants claimed Bell.

Carlos Pena has also been claimed.
   9. JJ1986 Posted: August 24, 2011 at 06:29 PM (#3907954)
I wonder who claimed Pena. The Indians? The Giants?
   10. SoSH U at work Posted: August 24, 2011 at 06:35 PM (#3907959)
I wonder who claimed Pena.

Jim Hendry.
   11. shout-out to 57i66135; that shit's working now Posted: August 24, 2011 at 06:53 PM (#3907970)
I dunno, aren't OF ? 3B conversions a notorious bad gamble? Especially if the guy hasn't ever really played there before.
i think it can be doable so long as the player has a baseline level of defensive skill.

i wouldn't expect mayberry to play 3B with the instincts of scott rolen, but if he played it with a lot of depth, like michael young did back when he was first moved there, i think he'd be able to hold his head above water.

i should probably point out that the only way this would really be worth the effort would be if A) placido polanco continued to have problems staying on the field, and B) both mayberry and domonic brown (who would figure to be plugged into LF) became significant offensive threats. if mayberry's bat isn't well above average, it really wouldn't be necessary to shoehorn his bat into the lineup. and if brown's isn't, it wouldn't be necessary to open the lineup spot for him by making this switch.

that being said, i think it's worth a look, if only for the curiosity of it.
   12. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: August 24, 2011 at 07:11 PM (#3907987)
I dunno, aren't OF ? 3B conversions a notorious bad gamble?
So said Bill James, at least.
   13. Javy Joan Baez (chris h.) Posted: August 24, 2011 at 08:11 PM (#3908038)
I wonder who claimed Pena.

Jim Hendry.

I now picture Hendry sitting at home in his basement, with an old Western-Electric-style phone on a card table. He's sitting on a folding chair in a wife beater and boxers, calling up ML teams, trying to execute transactions.

In this scenario, he's clearly not taking his dismissal very well.

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