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Tuesday, August 09, 2011

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 8-9-2011

Regina Morning Leader, August 9, 1911:

Fandom includes all classes of citizens, and in order to keep them in check the following warnings have been framed by a person who knows something about the unbridled enthusiasm of those who follow the fortunes of their favorite teams:

Don’t shout words of advice to the players.

Don’t roast players for making errors.

...

Don’t put the lighted end of a cigar into your mouth when your favorite knocks out a four-bagger.

Don’t elbow your neighbor and step on his corns unless he’s a cripple.

Jerry Lumpe Rutherford (Dan Lee) Posted: August 09, 2011 at 09:12 AM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: baseball geeks, dugout, history

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   1. Mike Emeigh Posted: August 09, 2011 at 02:01 PM (#3896176)
Going back to 1918, which is the first season that the Retrosheet game logs have complete line scores, there have been just three games in which one team has scored 10 or more runs in two different innings:

Phillies at Cubs, August 25, 1922. This is the famous 26-23 game. The Cubs led 25-6 after four innings, scoring 10 runs in the second and 14 in the fourth, and 26-9 after seven. The Phillies scored 14 runs in the eighth and ninth to make it interesting.

Cardinals at Phillies, July 7, 1929 Game 2. Once more the hapless Phillies were involved, as St. Louis scored 10 runs off three pitchers in the first inning, then added 10 more in the fifth. Oddly, two umpires, Bob Hart and Cy Rigler, umpired both this game and the 1922 affair.

Pirates at Dodgers, July 10, 1943. Brooklyn scored 10 in the first and 10 more in the fourth. The third umpire in the Cardinals/Phillies game in 1929 was Beans Reardon, and he was also one of the umpires in this game.

-- MWE
   2. Sweatpants Posted: August 09, 2011 at 02:08 PM (#3896180)
Phillies at Cubs, August 25, 1922
Were the rules for assigning wins different back then? Starter Kaufmann got the win despite going only four innings. Granted, he was the only pitcher for either team to finish with fewer earned runs allowed than innings pitched.
   3. Mike Webber Posted: August 09, 2011 at 02:14 PM (#3896187)
I've been wondering about this for a couple of day, what is the etiquette for when you start following the magic numbers on daily basis?

It seems to too early in any of the eight races right now, but what about when the magic numbers start to hit what 30? 20? When do you start figuring them in your head every day with your first glance at the standings?
   4. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 09, 2011 at 02:37 PM (#3896202)
I don't think you can really start doing magic numbers until September.
   5. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: August 09, 2011 at 02:50 PM (#3896215)
Up at THT: A historical piece on this-day-in-baseall-history stuff. THe hook: 20 years ago today, the Giants beat the Dodger 1-0 (13) on a walk-off HBP. Don't see that every day.

Other anniversary items: Mama Cobb shoots/kills Papa Cobb, Jack Taylor sets maybe the game's most unbreakable record, A's snap their 6-63 skid, Mathewson benches Chase, the only time someone pinch hit for Babe Ruth, first all-night game day, first game between integrated teams, Vic Power's drop-kick homer, Steve Carlton doesn't need no teammates, John Hiller could use some control, end of the '81 strike, a bizarre record set 16 years ago today, maybe the signature loss of all recent Royals futility.
   6. Matthew E Posted: August 09, 2011 at 03:11 PM (#3896233)
Don’t put the lighted end of a cigar into your mouth when your favorite knocks out a four-bagger.


Hold on, hold on, let me write some of this down. This is good stuff.
   7. Mike Emeigh Posted: August 09, 2011 at 03:22 PM (#3896246)
Were the rules for assigning wins different back then?


Yes. The five-innings-for-a-win rule is relatively recent, although I don't recall the exact date when it was added to the rules.

-- MWE
   8. Famous Original Joe C Posted: August 09, 2011 at 03:34 PM (#3896256)
Reed Johnson having a weird year: 172 PA, .325/.368/.535 - with 40 Ks to 3 BB.
   9. vortex of dissipation Posted: August 09, 2011 at 06:22 PM (#3896366)
Yes. The five-innings-for-a-win rule is relatively recent, although I don't recall the exact date when it was added to the rules.


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