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Wednesday, August 13, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 8-13-2014

Dakota County [Nebraska] Herald, August 13, 1914:

Buck Weaver of the White Sox is engaged in gathering together a collection of assorted bats so valuable that it couldn’t be purchased for money, marbles, or chalk. This aggregation of clout rods will consist of bats once grasped by the stalwart hands of Cobb, Speaker, Jackson, Baker and other man [sic] who have helped make the base hit famous. Each bat will be autographed by the man who used it for swatting. Weaver is gathering these for the express purpose of presenting them to Ed. R. Maier, president of the Venice club.

DO WANT.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 13, 2014 at 09:17 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 13, 2014 at 09:19 AM (#4769999)
A bunch of power hitters on today's Birthday Team. Buhner, Thornton, and Gordon each hit more than 200 home runs, Patterson would have gotten over 150 had he been able to tell the strike zone from a ball peen hammer, and Cloninger was known to pop a grand slam or two. And Briody? That's not an ironic nickname.

C: Fatty Briody
1B: Andre Thornton
2B: Mark Lemke
3B: Sid Gordon
SS: Fred Stanley
LF: Corey Patterson
CF/Manager: Fielder Jones
RF: Jay Buhner

SP: Mudcat Grant
SP: Alex Fernandez
SP: Jarrod Washburn
SP: Tony Cloninger
SP: Vinegar Bend Mizell
RP: Tom Niedenfuer

Owner: Charles DeWitt
Umpire: Jerry Crawford
Cool names: Wingo Anderson, Hercules Burnett, Limb McKenry
Protector of the pitcher's mound: Dallas Braden
Caligula's favorite ballplayer: Roman Colon
Not that one: Gary Cooper
   2. Rennie's Tenet Posted: August 13, 2014 at 09:49 AM (#4770024)
We had Nellie Briles last week. Mudcat Grant also had a lounge act, but I guess is best known for this rendition today:

Wonderful World
   3. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: August 13, 2014 at 10:04 AM (#4770047)
Andre Thornton is familiar to me--in one of the Bill James books, it was suggested that he and John Mayberry (Sr.) were the two most similar players in history, statistically. Taking another look....

Andre Thornton: .254 AVG, .360 OBP, 253 homers, 1,342 hits, 876 walks, 895 RBI, 2389 total bases, 123 OPS+, 24.1 WAR.
John Mayberry : .253 AVG, .360 OBP, 255 homers, 1,379 hits, 881 walks, 879 RBI, 2393 total bases, 123 OPS+, 24.7 WAR.
   4. Batman Posted: August 13, 2014 at 10:06 AM (#4770050)
If the Venice Club is the Venice Tigers of the PCL, Joe McGinnity was on that team. McGinnity last pitched in the major leagues in 1908 and, at 43, he was winding up his career in the minor leagues. He finished his pro career a mere 11 years later with 246 major league wins and 239 minor league wins.
   5. Steve N Posted: August 13, 2014 at 10:13 AM (#4770053)
That's a pretty good team.
   6. Rennie's Tenet Posted: August 13, 2014 at 10:27 AM (#4770064)
Interesting article about the Maier family, brewers and owners of the Venice/Vernon franchise:

California Tigers
   7. Mike Webber Posted: August 13, 2014 at 10:36 AM (#4770073)
Too bad Fatty didn't sneak into the Players League in 1890, otherwise he would have played in all 5 "major" leagues in the 19th Century, NA, NL, AA, UA and PL. Except I guess that the NA he played in was no longer a "major" league since it was after the formation of the National League.

Did any player play in all 5 major leagues in the 19th century?
   8. Batman Posted: August 13, 2014 at 11:29 AM (#4770112)
I think Pud Galvin, Deacon White, Jim O'Rourke, and Pop Snyder are the only ones who played in both the NA and the PL. All four of them, of course, also played in the NL, but Galvin and Snyder are the only ones of the group who played in a fourth league- AA for both of them.
   9. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM (#4770119)
"Clout rods?" Hehhehheh.
   10. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 13, 2014 at 11:41 AM (#4770122)
Caligula's favorite ballplayer: Roman Colon


RDF
   11. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: August 13, 2014 at 05:08 PM (#4770456)
The Game of 8/12/84 was incredibly frustrating for the fans of one of the teams, which is a good way for a game to be interesting for everyone else. They had the raw materials for a highly productive day of hitting, but assembled them in literally the least efficient manner possible. Which made their one-run loss about as aggravating a baseball performance as can be imagined.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 13, 2014 at 05:13 PM (#4770460)
   13. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: August 13, 2014 at 07:29 PM (#4770562)
In the Game of 8/12/14, the teams combined to draw only four walks in 14 innings - but one of them was really important. Also, it's another awful day with runners in scoring position for both teams, and one of them was celebrating the 30-year anniversary of its lousy performance in the game of the same date in 1984.
   14. puck Posted: August 14, 2014 at 11:06 AM (#4770940)
So, how bad is it if your high A team is horrible? I thought the senior Rockies were bad but their Modesto team is 36-86.
   15. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: August 14, 2014 at 11:13 AM (#4770945)
14: Doesn't mean much. The Braves have trotted out some terrible minor league clubs over the years and they've been okay. Now why they're bad can mean a lot...

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