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Tuesday, August 15, 2017

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 8-15-2017

Pittsburgh Gazette Times, August 15, 1917:

Eddie Plank, the veteran left-hander, has retired permanently from baseball. Fielder Jones of the St. Louis Americans made this known [yesterday] when he announced that Plank had left the team last Saturday and gone to his home at Gettysburg, Pa.
...
Plank’s last game was pitched in Washington a week ago Monday, when Walter Johnson defeated him, 1 to 0, in 11 innings.

If you’ve gotta walk away, an 11-inning pitchers’ duel against Walter Johnson is a good way to go.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 15, 2017 at 08:36 AM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 15, 2017 at 08:38 AM (#5513416)
Decent players at every position on today's Birthday Team. Excellent leadership too - the backup manager has two World Series rings and 1140 career wins.

C: Jack Warner (10.6 WAR)
1B/Owner/Manager: Charlie Comiskey (7.63 WAR)
2B: Doggie Miller (18.53 WAR)
3B: Scott Brosius (15.68 WAR)
SS: Jeff Huson (2.27 WAR)
LF: Jarrod Dyson (15.3 WAR)
CF: Chris Singleton (9.7 WAR)
RF: Billy Conigliaro (4.55 WAR)

SP: Bill Sherdel (31.38 WAR)
SP: Joey Jay (14.06 WAR)
SP: Oliver Perez (9.5 WAR)
SP: Joe Cowley (4.44 WAR)
SP: Jose Santiago (4.19 WAR)
RP: Mike James (4.81 WAR)

Backup manager: Tom Kelly
Fun name: Duffy Dyer, Arlo Brunsberg
Not that one: Randy Johnson
Strange life, strange death: Chris Brown
   2. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: August 15, 2017 at 08:44 AM (#5513418)
SP: Joey Jay (14.06 WAR)

Jay started against Vern Law three times--that's still the record for fewest letters in the last names of the starters
   3. Rennie's Tenet Posted: August 15, 2017 at 09:39 AM (#5513436)
Question: Elroy Face has been allotted 20.9 WAR (21.4 pitching) on baseball-reference. I don't look at fangraphs a lot, but it seems like they allot Face 10.2 fWAR. BB-ref has Face at 184 pitching runs above replacement, while fangraphs says just 97. First, is this a correct reading? Second, if so, why are the numbers so divergent?
   4. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 15, 2017 at 10:13 AM (#5513456)
the record for fewest letters in the last names of the starters
If only Fu-Te Ni had faced Cliff Lee.
   5. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 15, 2017 at 10:53 AM (#5513493)
Question: Elroy Face has been allotted 20.9 WAR (21.4 pitching) on baseball-reference. I don't look at fangraphs a lot, but it seems like they allot Face 10.2 fWAR. BB-ref has Face at 184 pitching runs above replacement, while fangraphs says just 97. First, is this a correct reading? Second, if so, why are the numbers so divergent?

F that guy.
   6. Willie Mays Hayes Posted: August 15, 2017 at 08:18 PM (#5514047)
Question: Elroy Face has been allotted 20.9 WAR (21.4 pitching) on baseball-reference. I don't look at fangraphs a lot, but it seems like they allot Face 10.2 fWAR. BB-ref has Face at 184 pitching runs above replacement, while fangraphs says just 97. First, is this a correct reading? Second, if so, why are the numbers so divergent?


Short answer: the Pirates defense. Slightly longer answer: Fangraphs is defense-independent, BBRef is not.

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