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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 8-18-2017

Pittsburgh Press, August 18, 1917:

The pennant winner of the Southern association is to play a post-season series of games with a team composed of the best players from clubs that finish second, third and fourth, according to an announcement by R.G. Baugh, president of the league.

That’s a cool idea. I like that a lot.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 18, 2017 at 09:03 AM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 18, 2017 at 09:06 AM (#5516000)
Today's Birthday Team. It feels weird to move one of the strongest arms in the history of the game out of right field, but I don't want Higginson in center and I definitely don't want Evan Gattis in center.

C: Mike LaValliere (13.91 WAR)
1B: Sam Wise (20.17 WAR)
2B: Wally Gerber (3.98 WAR)
3B: Jack Howell (9.7 WAR)
SS: Buck Weaver (21.14 WAR)
LF: Evan Gattis (8.0 WAR)
CF: Roberto Clemente (94.48 WAR)
RF: Bobby Higginson (22.99 WAR)

SP: Burleigh Grimes (53.02 WAR)
SP: Max Lanier (29.84 WAR)
SP: Albie Lopez (3.74 WAR)
SP: Hal Goldsmith (0.81 WAR)
SP: Pat Misch (0.48 WAR)
RP: Bob Humphreys (5.29 WAR)
RP: Justin Wilson (4.4 WAR)

Manager: Bob Kennedy
Fun name: Bucky Guth
The Immortal: Joe Azcue (8.48 WAR)
Third catcher: Bruce Benedict (7.3 WAR)
Team President: Carl Barger
Umpire: Derryl Cousins
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 18, 2017 at 10:02 AM (#5516033)
It feels weird to move one of the strongest arms in the history of the game out of right field

Shouldn't a strong arm be just as useful in CF?
   3. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 18, 2017 at 10:14 AM (#5516044)
Shouldn't a strong arm be just as useful in CF?
I suppose, though it probably depends on the park. I was thinking about throws to third base, but dead center at Tiger Stadium or Fenway might be a longer throw than the right field corner.
   4. esseff Posted: August 18, 2017 at 11:29 AM (#5516092)
Sam Tuivailala's pitching line last nite: 1 IP, 3 H, 2 BB and 0 R. Oh, he also got the win (and 2 K's).
   5. Mike Emeigh Posted: August 18, 2017 at 12:30 PM (#5516151)
Joey Gallo watch:

Through Thursday, Gallo is hitting .209/.327/.572 in 398 PA. The .899 OPS would be the highest ever for a player with at least 250 PA and a BA under .220. Ryan Schimpf, a year ago, hit .217/.336/.533 in 330 PA for an .869 OPS. The next highest seasonal OPS for a player with a BA under .220 is .819.

Somebody was asking me the other day about comps for Gallo. Adam Dunn might be the closest one - in 2003 at age 23, he hit .215/.354/.465 for the Reds, the aforementioned .819 OPS in 469 PA with 126 K in 469 PA, and in 2012, when he fanned 222 times in 649 PA for the White Sox, he still posted .333/.468 OBP/SLG while hitting .204. Dunn is the only player who's posted an .800+ OPS twice with a sub-.220 BA. Gallo's performance has a similar shape, but he's a little bit more extreme than Dunn.

-- MWE
   6. Rennie's Tenet Posted: August 19, 2017 at 08:35 AM (#5516786)
a team composed of the best players from clubs that finish second, third and fourth, according to an announcement by R.G. Baugh, president of the league.


I was wondering why they wouldn't just do an All Star team from the whole league. I'm guessing maybe they were making players work for first division money?

I've long thought that Clemente would have become the first black manager in the National League, if not in baseball. He had managed in the winter league and also said that he wanted to finish 20 years as a player (through 1974). Danny Murtaugh was always ambivalent about managing because of his health - he was really a Pirate organization guy. And Pirate GM Joe L. Brown was an unabashed Rickey disciple who was nearing the end of his career who I think would have loved to break this ground. One obstacle could have been Bill Virdon. The Pirates spent the 1973 season in a funk,and Virdon was replaced by Murtaugh toward the end of the season. If Clemente had been alive, maybe that funk wouldn't have been so severe and it would have been Virdon, not Murtaugh, who was secure as the Pirate manager heading into 1975.

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