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Monday, August 20, 2018

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 8-20-2018

Hugh Fullerton in the New York Evening World, August 20, 1918:

Chicago’s Cubs and Boston’s Red Sox in all human probability will contest for the world’s championship if the War Department permits such a series.

The National Commission, which has been the supreme power of baseball up to the time the affairs of organized baseball got tangled up with the war, is reported to be meeting in Cincinnati to arrange a World’s Series, and yesterday the Red Sox, by beating Cleveland 6 to 0, practically settled the question as to which team shall represent the American League in the series, if any such series shall be played.

Well, the Cubs may or may not have actually contested the series.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 20, 2018 at 10:11 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 20, 2018 at 10:14 AM (#5730102)
A darn good Birthday Team today. The corner infielders are, IMO, wildly underrated by the average fan.

C/Manager: Al Lopez (16.64 WAR)
1B: Todd Helton (61.2 WAR)
2B: Blake DeWitt (1.87 WAR)
3B: Graig Nettles (67.98 WAR)
SS: Chris Clapinski (0.43 WAR)
LF: Kal Daniels (16.88 WAR)
CF: Tom Brunansky (21.98 WAR)
RF: Beau Bell (4.79 WAR)

SP: Mark Langston (50.29 WAR)
SP: Andy Benes (31.55 WAR)
SP: Fred Norman (16.31 WAR)
SP: Pete Schneider (8.48 WAR)
SP: Sig Jakucki (3.78 WAR)
RP: George Zuverink (6.89 WAR)

Baseball card mogul: DeWayne Buice (0.92 WAR)
Designated Aruban: Gene Kingsale (-0.78 WAR)
Fun names: Lance Broadway, Chubby Snyder, Bull Smith
Joe Bread 'n Water: Jose Paniagua (2.6 WAR)
Umpires: Bill Carpenter, Edward McLaughlin
   2. BDC Posted: August 20, 2018 at 11:41 AM (#5730149)
A brief trivia item for today. In looking up my box-score-line records, I got to wondering if any team had ever seen all nine of its starters go at least 1111 in the box score. I.e. all nine starters had a run, hit and RBI in the game (and thus obviously an AB as well).

Come to find that this has happened on several occasions. It's not super-common, but it has happened a few dozen times in baseball history. A few teams have seen ten players go at least 1111.

But only one team, on one day (since 1908 at least) has had eleven players each record at least one R, H, and RBI in a game. Can you name the team and the year, and for a bonus, can you name the eleven players?

Some hints: the team would go on to win the World Series. They won the game that day, 18-11, but it was not a blowout; in fact they lost the lead in the bottom of the first and didn't regain it till the top of the eighth. Three of the 11 batters are Hall of Famers; a fourth would be if he were not a moron; and a fifth is the father of a Hall of Famer. Ten of the 11 are alive, the only one deceased being the winning pitcher in the game, who scored after hitting an RBI single in the ninth inning. The starting pitcher, though, went 1000 before being knocked out.
   3. Man o' Schwar Posted: August 20, 2018 at 11:46 AM (#5730154)
That sounds like the Reds, with Bench, Morgan, and Perez as HoFers and Rose as the moron. Ken Griffey SR. would be the father of an HoFer.

Other likely players on the team maybe: Dave Concepcion, George Foster, maybe Cesar Cedeno. I'll go with Don Gullett as the starting pitcher.
   4. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 20, 2018 at 11:51 AM (#5730159)
Cesar Geronimo. I'll add Dan Driessen and Bernie Carbo.
   5. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 20, 2018 at 11:54 AM (#5730162)
Not Carbo. He left the Reds before Morgan (among others) got there. I recall him hitting a famous HR in the 1975 WS, and he did, but for the Red Sox.
   6. Itchy Row Posted: August 20, 2018 at 11:55 AM (#5730165)
Pedro Borbon for the winning pitcher?
   7. BDC Posted: August 20, 2018 at 12:06 PM (#5730180)
1975 Reds, against the Cubs on 13 June, at Wrigley Field. Correct!

The nine of the eleven already guessed are:


Dan Driessen played the 9th inning at first base, but did not bat. The two unguessed players were bench players. Each substituted for one of the other Hall of Famers in this game (Driessen came in for Perez). I knew their names; both had 10-year careers; but they are not immortals.
   8. Itchy Row Posted: August 20, 2018 at 12:06 PM (#5730181)
Since it was 18-11 in the 1970's that means it was at Wrigley. Rick Reuschel had a quality start in a game where his team gave up 18 runs and 34 base runners.
   9. BDC Posted: August 20, 2018 at 12:10 PM (#5730185)
Yes, Reuschel got four times through the order and only left the game because they hit for him.
   10. Perry Posted: August 20, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5730190)
Darrell Chaney?
   11. BDC Posted: August 20, 2018 at 12:15 PM (#5730192)
Chaney replaced Rose at 3B for the ninth inning, but did not bat.
   12. Perry Posted: August 20, 2018 at 12:15 PM (#5730193)
Bill Plummer?
   13. Perry Posted: August 20, 2018 at 12:18 PM (#5730198)
Doug Flynn?
   14. BDC Posted: August 20, 2018 at 12:41 PM (#5730222)
Plummer and Flynn are correct, in for Bench and Morgan respectively.

Dang, you guys are good on your 1975 Reds :)
   15. salvomania Posted: August 20, 2018 at 12:45 PM (#5730228)
SP: Andy Benes (31.55 WAR)

Andy Benes had one of the all-time-great dead-cat bounces to close out the season, and his career, over the last half of 2002.

After a pretty good run for several years, including a 3rd-place finish in NL Cy Young balloting in 1996, from 1999-2001 a declining Benes had an ERA of 5.42 in almost 500 ip with the Diamondbacks and Cardinals. That included a 2001 in which he allowed 88 earned runs in 107 innings for the Cardinals, for an ERA of 7.38.

2002 began with much of the same but even worse, as he allowed 20 runs ("only" 12 earned) in 10 innings over his first three starts, then went on the DL. He returned in July, made a couple more unsuccessful starts and came out of the bullpen for the first time in 15 years.

Then, all of a sudden, beginning with his July 30 start, he become dominant. Over his next 12 starts he allowed a TOTAL of 13 runs as the Cardinals went 9-3 in those games. His ERA through the end of the year was 1.55 in 75 innings, and he was unscored upon over the last 17 innings of the regular season.

He then won his final career start, Game 3 of the NLCS (the only win the Cardinals would get against Barry Bonds and the Giants in that series), before riding off into the sunset.

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