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Tuesday, August 22, 2017

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 8-22-2017

Pittsburgh Press, August 22, 1917:

If dreams come true Outfielder Harry Wolter will pitch a game for the Chicago Cubs before the season comes to a close.
...
While taking his nap [Cubs manager Fred Mitchell] dreamed Wolter was pitching a game for him against the Giants at the Polo Grounds and that the score was 0 to 0 in the fifteenth inning. How the contest came out Mitchell never will know for he woke up before it finished, but with a hunch, and that was to pitch Wolter in one of the contests on this trip.

...Wolter has been asking for a chance to twirl for several weeks, since it became apparent that the Cubs required another left handed pitcher.

Wolter never did get to pitch for the Cubs, but it wouldn’t have been completely crazy. He originally came up as a pitcher and was converted to the outfield.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:06 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:12 AM (#5518372)
A heck of a starting lineup on today's Birthday Team, even with two players under -3 career WAR.

C: Wally Schang (45 WAR)
1B: Carl Yastrzemski (96.13 WAR)
2B: Jose Arcia (-3.46 WAR)
3B: Paul Molitor (75.42 WAR)
SS: Dud Lee (-3.58 WAR)
LF/Manager: Ned Hanlon (18.01 WAR)
CF: Happy Felsch (19.35 WAR)
RF: Darrin Jackson (11.4 WAR)

SP: Randy Wolf (23.1 WAR)
SP: Ray Burris (16.42 WAR)
SP: Jeff Weaver (15.45 WAR)
SP: Howie Camnitz (15.08 WAR)
SP: Hipolito Pichardo (6.42 WAR)
RP: 2000s left-handed Steve Kline (10.25 WAR)
RP: Doug Bair (6.9 WAR)

Fun name: Herman Fink
General Manager: Pat Gillick
   2. Man o' Schwar Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:16 AM (#5518384)
SS: Dud Lee (-3.58 WAR)

That is a very appropriate nickname.
   3. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:16 AM (#5518386)
Civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. would have been exactly as old as Cy Young was the day he died (32,361 days).

Singer Chris Brown is exactly as old as Sean Forman was the day baseball-reference.com debuted (under its original name, Big Bad Baseball Stats) (10,336 days).

Baseball star Pete Rose is exactly as old as Ayatollah Khomeini was the day he returned from exile (27,889 days).


Anyone who wants to can look up these as-old-as items for your own life here.
   4. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:28 AM (#5518399)
Is 8/22 the only birthday with two 3000-hit men? It's certainly the only birthday with two 3300-hit men.
   5. BDC Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:29 AM (#5518401)
Expand Dud Lee's B-Ref page, though, and you'll see that he had a solid pro career. After washing out of the majors at an early age, he went to the PCL and started at shortstop for the Hollywood Stars for seven years, hitting .275 monotonously and setting some fielding records (per his SABR bio). His bat started to decline at that point (he was 33), but he still was a regular for Indianapolis in the American Association for another couple of years and then Portland, back in the PCL, for another couple.
   6. PreservedFish Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:41 AM (#5518412)
If you were starting a franchise, would you rather have Pat Gillick as GM or a single player the caliber of Happy Felsch, Randy Wolf or Ray Burris?
   7. mathesond Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:03 AM (#5518436)
Starting a franchise? I'd have to take Gillick, he'd be around longer and would have a greater effect. Plus, I've been a Jays fans since 1977, so I am a little biased.
   8. PreservedFish Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:43 AM (#5518480)
But I assume you'd rather have Molitor or Yaz. Or would you?
   9. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 22, 2017 at 12:21 PM (#5518518)
I think you'd rather have Molitor or Yaz than Gillick, particularly if you can stick Molitor at 2B or CF and leave him there.

My understanding - and I wish Harvey's Wallbangers were here to confirm the story - is that Molitor wound up at third base not because he couldn't handle second or center, but because Jim Gantner had won a full-time job and Gorman Thomas was all pissed off about Molitor moving him to right.
   10. Batman Posted: August 22, 2017 at 12:32 PM (#5518528)
If Harvey's was still around, he could be fishing or nowhere near any kind of online access, but he would sense that there was a Brewers story that needed correcting and he would somehow show up.
   11. Batman Posted: August 22, 2017 at 12:39 PM (#5518529)
Is 8/22 the only birthday with two 3000-hit men?
February 24 has Honus Wagner and Eddie Murray. I think that's the only other one.
   12. Mike Emeigh Posted: August 22, 2017 at 01:52 PM (#5518616)
Is 8/22 the only birthday with two 3000-hit men?

February 24 has Honus Wagner and Eddie Murray. I think that's the only other one.


Correct.

Albert Pujols is 71 hits shy of 3000. When he makes it, he will be the first January baby to get to 3000, leaving March as the only birth month without a 3000-hit player. Willie Keeler is the current March leader, coming up 68 hits short of 3000. Curtis Granderson is the active leader, but he has essentially no chance of getting there; Starlin Castro, at age 27 with over 1200 hits already, has a decent chance.

-- MWE
   13. Walt Davis Posted: August 22, 2017 at 05:10 PM (#5518784)
Speaking of active leaders and Mr. Granderson, time for some trivial time-wasting.

Name the top 10 active in runs scored (freebie: Granderson is #10 ... #9 will shock you!)

Name the top 10 active in RBI (#6 did shock me a bit ... although he's not actually active)

Both lists per b-r
   14. AndrewJ Posted: August 22, 2017 at 07:45 PM (#5518894)
Do you suppose Ned Hanlon is the most influential manager in MLB history? He begat McGraw, who begat Stengel, who begat Martin...
   15. eric Posted: August 22, 2017 at 08:25 PM (#5518929)
Speaking of active leaders and Mr. Granderson, time for some trivial time-wasting.

Name the top 10 active in runs scored (freebie: Granderson is #10 ... #9 will shock you!)

Name the top 10 active in RBI (#6 did shock me a bit ... although he's not actually active)

Both lists per b-r


I like that #11 is the same player on both lists, and someone I would have guessed much higher on the RS list than the RBI list.
   16. stanmvp48 Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:46 PM (#5519127)
Both lists: Beltre, Beltran, Albert, Nelson Cruz (maybe only on RBIs) Cano possibly in runs. Ichiro in runs. Utley in runs. Miguel Cabrera in RBIs.

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