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Tuesday, August 07, 2018

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 8-7-2018

New York Tribune, August 7, 1918:

The resignation of John K. Tener as president of the National Baseball League was received here yesterday at National League headquarters.

In a letter, addressed to all the club presidents in the National League, President Tener said:

“Having declined to serve further on the National Commission for the good reason familiar to each of you, I must ask that my resignation as your president, tendered last December, be now accepted.”

The “good reason” was that Tener was furious the Athletics asked for and received a court injunction overturning the National Commission’s decision to award pitcher Scott Perry to the Braves. Tener’s position had been tenuous for quite a while, and it became completely unworkable to have an NL president refusing to deal with the Commission while the two leagues were trying to slap together a rushed plan for a rescheduled World Series.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 07, 2018 at 09:48 AM | 45 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 07, 2018 at 09:52 AM (#5722209)
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure the center fielder on today's Birthday Team is a decent ballplayer.

C: Jerry McNertney (4.02 WAR)
1B: Les Fleming (9.16 WAR)
2B: Rocky Bridges (2.88 WAR)
3B/Manager: Bill McKechnie (3.32 WAR)
SS: Edgar Renteria (32.34 WAR)
LF: Steve Kemp (19.49 WAR)
CF: Mike Trout (61.92 WAR)
RF: Kirk Nieuwenhuis (2.74 WAR)

SP: Adonis Terry (30.2 WAR)
SP: Don Larsen (18.22 WAR)
SP: Art Houtteman (11.18 WAR)
SP: Ted Wingfield (4.78 WAR)
SP: Wade LeBlanc (4.66 WAR)
RP: Danny Graves (5.54 WAR)
RP: Jason Grimsley (5.4 WAR)

General Manager: Ross Atkins
Umpire: Bruce Dreckman
Does not rhyme with "looping": Mike Poepping
Fun names: Charlie Chant, Sparrow Morton, Greg Pirkl
Inexplicably legal (at least for a while) pitching motion: Carter Capps (0.87 WAR)
Muppet or ballplayer?: Guy Sturdy
Not the East German secret police: Brock Stassi
NPB pitcher in the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame: Motoshi Fujita
   2. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 07, 2018 at 09:57 AM (#5722217)
ICYMI, Rick Ankiel is planning a comeback. What a great story it would be if he can pull it off.

He'll be 40 next year, but he's left-handed, obviously talented, and has a pulse. So he shouldn't have any problems finding a team to toss an NRI his way.
   3. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: August 07, 2018 at 10:09 AM (#5722229)
Muppet or ballplayer?: Guy Sturdy

sounds like a hard-boiled private dick
   4. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 10:29 AM (#5722243)
Various box-score-line records, most times with that ab/r/h/bi line since 1908, regular season, trivia in bold:

4 2 3 2 : the leader in this category, a great AL RHB not yet eligible for the HOF, had 16 such games, several lengths ahead of the field. You might say he won the competition going away down the stretch

4 3 3 2 : Two men did this six times apiece, both LHBs who won NL MVP awards playing RF

4 4 3 2 : ten players did this twice, a range that stretches, talent-wise, from Paul Waner to Frank Catalanotto. Lorenzo Cain is the only active player of the ten

4 5 3 2 : six have done this once, most recently Wilson Ramos in 2011. Carlos Guillen had done it in 2008, but before Guillen, the last player was Mel Ott in 1944

4 4 3 3 : five players have done this twice: three HOFers, one HOMer, and one HOVGer. One of the HOFers is also one of the leaders for 4332, above. The other two HOFers were second basemen. The two other guys were more recent OFs, one famous for always bouncing off the ground and the other famous for never bouncing into the wall

4 5 3 3 : only done twice. Both guys are top-of-the-order types (as makes sense), both active in this century, one a HOFer, both noted for long careers with just one club
   5. SoSH U at work Posted: August 07, 2018 at 10:34 AM (#5722248)
4 2 3 2: I'll let Elroy field this one.

4 4 3 3: Abreu

4 5 3 3: Biggio
   6. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 10:40 AM (#5722255)
Abreu and Biggio are both correct!

The second 4533 guy is nowhere near as great a player as Biggio, but has been an All-Star.
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2018 at 10:50 AM (#5722264)
4 2 3 2: I'll let Elroy field this one.
Challenge accepted...that's gotta be Pujols, right?
   8. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 10:51 AM (#5722265)
Pujols isn't even in the same stable as this guy.
   9. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2018 at 10:54 AM (#5722270)
Well, hmmm. My next thought would be "Mike Trout has done it that many times already?" But he's in the same "stable" as Pujols, so it's not him...aha! Adrian Beltre!
   10. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 10:57 AM (#5722273)
Beltre's a draft horse, this guy's a thoroughbred. Out to pasture now, sadly.
   11. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:04 AM (#5722279)
Out to pasture...so it's a guy who's been moved to the outfield..."sadly," so maybe due to injuries or lack of fielding ability in the infield...that's a tough one. I dunno, does Nick Castellanos count as "great"?
   12. JJ1986 Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:05 AM (#5722280)
4 5 3 3 : only done twice. Both guys are top-of-the-order types (as makes sense), both active in this century, one a HOFer, both noted for long careers with just one club
Brett Gardner?
   13. SoSH U at work Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:12 AM (#5722286)
4 3 3 2 : Dave Parker?
   14. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:21 AM (#5722295)
Beltre's a draft horse, this guy's a thoroughbred. Out to pasture now, sadly.


ARod? That was my guess from the starters pistol going off.
   15. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:26 AM (#5722303)
4332: Larry Walker?
   16. PreservedFish Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:26 AM (#5722304)
Dammit Mouse
   17. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:29 AM (#5722309)
Brett Gardner and Dave Parker are correct!

EDIT: And Walker is not the other 4332 guy. A much earlier MVP.
   18. JJ1986 Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:41 AM (#5722322)
Musial for 4332?
   19. Batman Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:47 AM (#5722331)
Out to pasture...so it's a guy who's been moved to the outfield
No, out to pasture means he's been farmed out to the minor leagues. I know he's never played in the majors, but it's gotta be Tim Tebow.
   20. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:48 AM (#5722332)
Musial is correct for 4332, and he is thus also one of the answers for 4433.
   21. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2018 at 11:58 AM (#5722340)
Can't be Tebow, he's LH. And not in the AL. Look at the original description.
   22. vortex of dissipation Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:19 PM (#5722358)
C: Jerry McNertney (4.02 WAR)


Jerry McNertney was my first favorite player, when I rooted for the Seattle Pilots. I got a McNertney model bat on bat day, but I can't remember if he was already my favorite player by then, or whether I picked him because I got the bat. I could never figure out his name. His full name was Gerald Edward McNertney, with a "G", but he was always called Jerry, with a "J". Shouldn't it have been "Gerry"?
   23. Batman Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:25 PM (#5722362)
Never doubt Tebow.
   24. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:43 PM (#5722371)
My understanding is that if Tim Tebow wants to bat right handed and play in the American League, he just has to ask politely and someone will pay him to do it.
   25. EddieA Posted: August 07, 2018 at 12:46 PM (#5722376)
4 4 3 3 Morgan, Hornsby
   26. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 01:51 PM (#5722430)
Not Morgan or Hornsby. The earlier 2B was a contemporary of Hornsby, the latter one's career overlapped with Morgan's.
   27. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2018 at 01:57 PM (#5722434)
ARod? That was my guess from the starters pistol going off.
Dude, Aaron Rodgers doesn't even play baseball. He's no Tebow.
   28. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: August 07, 2018 at 02:12 PM (#5722452)
Dude, Aaron Rodgers doesn't even play baseball. He's no Tebow.



Now you have cheesed me off.
   29. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2018 at 02:23 PM (#5722459)
Are we going to have petty squabbles amongst ourselves, or are we going to work together to figure out the answer to BDC's question? Now come on, let's THINK!
   30. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 02:30 PM (#5722465)
I guess I should confirm that neither horse-faced Aaron Rodgers nor My Little Tebowny are correct. The guy we want has a human side in addition to his equine bloodlines.
   31. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 07, 2018 at 03:07 PM (#5722497)
Lou Gehrig, the Iron Horse? Carlos "Little Pony" Gonzalez? Bill Trotter? Dave Philley?
   32. EddieA Posted: August 07, 2018 at 04:46 PM (#5722612)
4 4 3 3 attempt 2

Collins (a lot of games)
Carew
   33. Hank Gillette Posted: August 07, 2018 at 05:00 PM (#5722624)
I could never figure out his name. His full name was Gerald Edward McNertney, with a "G", but he was always called Jerry, with a "J". Shouldn't it have been "Gerry"?


Then he would have had to deal with people calling him “Gary” all the time. I can relate (in reverse).
   34. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: August 07, 2018 at 05:04 PM (#5722627)
Then he would have had to deal with people calling him “Gary” all the time.

There are far worse things one could be called.
   35. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 05:05 PM (#5722629)
Sorry, neither Collins nor Carew. The earlier 4433 guy, like Collins, was a player-manager. The later, like Carew, won an MVP award.
   36. Batman Posted: August 07, 2018 at 05:40 PM (#5722654)
Ohhh, I see the problem. You messed up the clue. El Caballo, Carlos Lee, was eligible for the Hall this year. We would have gotten it right away.
   37. The Honorable Ardo Posted: August 07, 2018 at 06:34 PM (#5722688)
Today's Birthday Team is a hoot. Just as in real life, Trout's team isn't making the playoffs. Also, Jerry McNertney was the primary catcher for the 1969 Seattle Pilots and figures prominently in Ball Four.

EDIT: Tip of the cap to vortex in post #22.
   38. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2018 at 06:59 PM (#5722703)
Ohhh, I see the problem. You messed up the clue. El Caballo, Carlos Lee, was eligible for the Hall this year. We would have gotten it right away.
No, wait - I got it! It's Ichiro! We all know he could have been a right-handed batter if he wanted to.
   39. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 08:23 PM (#5722750)
Ichiro could win the Belmont if he wanted to, but it's not him.
   40. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2018 at 08:31 PM (#5722755)
Ichiro could win the Belmont if he wanted to,
Dude was pretty fast, wasn't he?
   41. EddieA Posted: August 07, 2018 at 09:47 PM (#5722800)
4 4 3 3 attempt 3
Sandberg. That's all I got.
   42. BDC Posted: August 07, 2018 at 10:00 PM (#5722808)
Sandberg is correct!
   43. PreservedFish Posted: August 07, 2018 at 10:16 PM (#5722821)
Seems probable that John Lackey may have allowed a record number of 4 2 3 2 lines.
   44. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 08, 2018 at 08:35 AM (#5722937)
His full name was Gerald Edward McNertney, with a "G", but he was always called Jerry, with a "J".


My mom was Virginia, but went by "Jinny". Never thought to ask why.
   45. SandyRiver Posted: August 08, 2018 at 09:24 AM (#5722965)
Pujols isn't even in the same stable as this guy.

They put centaurs in stables?

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