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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 8-9-2018

Celina (Ohio) Democrat, August 9, 1918:

Perhaps before the present season ends all records in the major league for lengthy games will be broken. Already there have been two 19-inning draws.

The law which saves an hour of daylight is mainly responsible, for it permits a game to go along until decided. The Phils and Cardinals started their 19-inning game at 3:30 o’clock and played until eight o’clock.
...
As it is the four hours and thirty minutes of desperate play went for naught.

A baseball game that lasted more than four hours?! Inconceivable!

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 09, 2018 at 10:44 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: August 09, 2018 at 10:46 AM (#5723953)
An extremely deep pitching staff on today's Birthday Team.

C: John Grim (6.49 WAR)
1B: Phil Todt (3.42 WAR)
2B: Julian Javier (13.82 WAR)
3B: Ted Simmons (50.34 WAR)
SS: Junior Kennedy (2.8 WAR)
LF: Deion Sanders (5.52 WAR)
CF: Tommie Agee (25.41 WAR)
RF: Jason Heyward (34.97 WAR)

SP: Claude Osteen (41.41 WAR)
SP: Matt Morris (20.47 WAR)
SP: Paul Lindblad (9.8 WAR)
SP: Scott Karl (8.72 WAR)
SP: Matt Young (7.28 WAR)
RP: Troy Percival (17.06 WAR)
RP: Bill Campbell (12.55 WAR)
RP: Brian Fuentes (10.43 WAR)
RP: Jason Frasor (9.47 WAR)
RP: Jeff Zimmerman (7.54 WAR)

Manager: Ralph Houk
Owners: Sue Burns, John Galbreath
Backup infielder: Mike Lamb (3.98 WAR)
Baseball historian: David Voigt
Blass disease victim: Kevin Saucier (2.26 WAR)
Broadcasters: Ned Martin, Chris Wheeler
Child domestic assistant: Kid Butler
Drafted as a third baseman, chose football: Matt Moore
Fun names: Highball Wilson, Eli Grba
MLB umpire/NBA official: Jim Duffy
Not that one: Fred Sanford (4.76 WAR)
That's one way to describe Dick Cheney: Buddy Hunter
Who da man?: Bill Dammann
Wilder than a truckload of starving kangaroos: Vance Lovelace
   2. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: August 09, 2018 at 11:15 AM (#5723990)
RP: Bill Campbell (12.55 WAR)

I believe he was the first reliever to pitch exclusively from the stretch EAR-regardless of whether there were runners on base
   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 09, 2018 at 11:18 AM (#5723995)
As it is the four hours and thirty minutes of desperate play went for naught.
--San Francisco Chronicle on a bad 8th inning for Bochy in the playoffs.
   4. BDC Posted: August 09, 2018 at 11:32 AM (#5724013)
Most times with the box-score-line ab/r/h/bi, regular season since 1908, trivia in bold:

4 4 3 4 : Hank Greenberg did this twice

4 5 3 4 : two guys did this once. They were regulars, better than journeymen; one played 1986-92, the other 1992-2008; both hit left-handed. Oddly, both appeared on MVP ballots (way, way down the ballot), but neither was ever an All-Star. Neither was known by his full first name (not that that's unusual). Both were best-known as NL players, though the later one started in the AL

4 4 3 5 : 27 guys did this once, most recently somebody named Matt Davidson in March of this year

4 4 3 6 : 15 guys once, most recently Paul Goldschmidt last year

4 4 3 7 : four players once, most recently Rick Ankiel in 2007

4 4 3 8 : the only player ever to do this was a three-time All-Star, possibly because his team had to be represented at all; but the year he had this 3-HR, 4338 game, he was quite deserving. He hit 35 other home runs and drove in 103 other runs that year, good for second and fourth in his low-offense, shortened-season league

4 5 3 6 : a HOVG outfielder, retired now but not yet 50 years old, a two-time All-Star who appeared on five MVP ballots. Didn't become a regular till age 26, when he also appeared in his first and last World Series, laboring on obscure teams thereafter

4 5 3 9 : As with so many of these gaudy-RBI games, this one was recorded for the Red Sox. It was a pretty famous game, or rather double-header; Mr. 4539 went 5232 in the opener, hit four home runs on the day with two grand slams, as the Sox swept with an aggregate of 35 runs to the Athletics' 19. In fact, though he was a very talented player, our 4539 guy was (I would reckon) the sixth-most famous man in his own lineup that day, behind four HOFers and another guy who got 2,700 Hits. I did know his name, but I think I knew him just on account of this doubleheader. He would later serve in the wartime Army but then die young; he had (apparently) an undiagnosed heart condition

   5. Batman Posted: August 09, 2018 at 11:38 AM (#5724020)
4 4 3 8 : the only player ever to do this was a three-time All-Star, possibly because his team had to be represented at all; but the year he had this 3-HR, 4338 game, he was quite deserving. He hit 35 other home runs and drove in 103 other runs that year, good for second and fourth in his low-offense, shortened-season league
Nate Colbert?

EDIT: I was right. Colbert's was part of a doubleheader too. He had a 9-7-7-13 line for the day, with 5 HR.
   6. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 09, 2018 at 11:39 AM (#5724022)
one played 1986-92
Kal(voski) Daniels.
   7. BDC Posted: August 09, 2018 at 11:41 AM (#5724024)
Colbert, yes, and also Kal Daniels. Thanks for the Colbert doubleheader note, Batman – very cool.
   8. Nasty Nate Posted: August 09, 2018 at 11:48 AM (#5724028)
Last night Conforto had the unusual line of 3 3 1 0. I thought of the Dugout when I saw it.
   9. BDC Posted: August 09, 2018 at 11:51 AM (#5724030)
3310 … Stan Hack and Bobby Grich each did that six times :)
   10. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: August 09, 2018 at 11:54 AM (#5724034)
Mr. 4539 went 5232 in the opener

With 11 RBI in a doubleheader, it must be Jim Tabor who shared that record with Earl Averill and Boog Powell until Colbert broke it.
   11. BDC Posted: August 09, 2018 at 11:55 AM (#5724035)
Tabor is correct!
   12. Tom T Posted: August 09, 2018 at 01:26 PM (#5724127)
4 5 3 6 : a HOVG outfielder, retired now but not yet 50 years old, a two-time All-Star who appeared on five MVP ballots. Didn't become a regular till age 26, when he also appeared in his first and last World Series, laboring on obscure teams thereafter


Brian Giles? Given I'm not yet 50, he ought not yet to be.
   13. BDC Posted: August 09, 2018 at 07:51 PM (#5724409)
Giles is correct!
   14. Walt Davis Posted: August 09, 2018 at 07:56 PM (#5724414)
Backup infielder: Mike Lamb (3.98 WAR)

Surely for the sake of the deep pitching staff, we can sacrifice a couple of career WAR with Lamb at 3B and Simmons at C. I suspect the current lineup would take a bigger chunk out of both Simmons' and the staff's career WARs. :-)

... although if I'm honest, I was thinking of current AZ 3B Jake Lamb more than Mike Lamb but still.

Checking it looks like Grim had nearly as many innings at 3B as Simmons so, not that it matters, I call for putting the near (future?) HoFer at his rightful spot. :-)
   15. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 09, 2018 at 08:24 PM (#5724435)
Not that one: Fred Sanford (4.76 WAR)


The "that one" Fred Sanford would be the ultimate scrappy player, wouldn't he?

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