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Tuesday, September 11, 2018

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 9-11-2018

Harrisburg Telegraph, September 11, 1918:

More than 25,000 baseball enthusiasts waited one hour yesterday for the fifth world series game to start at Boston while the big-leaguers of Cubs and Red Sox argued with the National Commission for a heavier share in the profits of the tournament. By a mere eyelash the most startling scandal ever attached to the game was avoided after the crowd had about reached the end of its patience.

A tragic feature of the situation was the appearance of hundreds of wounded officers and soldiers, survivors of the Marne, many of whom were brought in on invalid chairs. The immense arena rose as one to cheer these heroes, and their echoes resounded to the room where the ball players wrangled with Ban Johnson and Garry Herrmann, telling such a tale of heroism that the big-leaguers instantly surrendered.

Those are what we in the 21st century would call “bad optics”. Once they took the field, Hippo Vaughn completely silenced the Red Sox with a five-hit shutout. Game six is this afternoon at Fenway with Carl Mays trying to close out the series for Boston. He’ll face Lefty Tyler.

Elsewhere in the news 100 years ago today, the head of the United States Chemical Service, Major General William Sibert, wants to assure Americans that Christy Mathewson and Ty Cobb didn’t get ‘soft’ jobs and will be actively involved with combat as gas officers.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 11, 2018 at 10:21 AM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 11, 2018 at 10:25 AM (#5742124)
A decent Birthday Team today, apart from the gaping hole at shortstop.

Don Slaught (19.34 WAR)
1B: Ray Grimes (10.32 WAR)
2B: Ellis Clary (2.11 WAR)
3B: Mike Moustakas (14.14 WAR)
SS: Eddie Miksis (-3.42 WAR)
LF: Ellis Burks (49.78 WAR)
CF: Jacoby Ellsbury (31.11 WAR)
RF: Steve Brodie (19.46 WAR)

SP: Dave Roberts (23.44 WAR)
SP: Frank Kitson (23.16 WAR)
SP: Andrew Cashner (9.52 WAR)
SP: Bill Hogg (3.86 WAR)
SP: Les Tietje (3.19 WAR)
RP: Frank Francisco (5.07 WAR)

Manager: Jeff Newman
Owner: Jim Dunn
General Manager/football coach: Stuart Holcomb
Broadcaster: Byrum Saam
Umpires: Pat Hoberg, John McSherry
-3.93 career WAR: Jackie Hernandez (-3.93 WAR)
Animal: Brad Lesley (0.69 WAR)
Immense person: Kyle Blanks (3.97 WAR)
Less successful family member: Eduardo Perez (0.87 WAR)
Pitcher/Outfielder with -4.47 overall WAR, -2.56 pitch WAR, and -1.91 bat WAR in 107 career games: Mike Golden (-4.47 WAR)
Ray's twin brother: Roy Grimes (-0.39 WAR)
SABR VP: Jerry Gregory
   2. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: September 11, 2018 at 10:49 AM (#5742136)
Last night, Josh Hader came on in the 7th inning. He faced 6 Cubs and struck them all out.

This actually tied a MLB record: most batters faced in one game where you struck them all out. This was just the 9th time in history that has been done.

The other 8 relievers to do it:

Alfredo Simon
Craig Stammen
Tyler Clippard
Craig Schroeder
Rafael Soriano
Scott Williamson
Roberto Hernandez
Willie Hernandez
   3. Ziggy's screen name Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:17 AM (#5742158)
Let us now praise Mike Trout.

Last night he went 2/5. His season and career OBP went down. Which is just a fancy way of saying that they're above .400, but a night in which you get two hits is a good one.

Trout has walked a league-leading 111 times this season, to go with 111 strike outs. Last season it was 94/90, every season before that he was striking out more than he walked. He has a career high figures in OBP, OPS, and OPS+. His slugging is his second-highest mark (after last year). So far this season he has the highest SB% of his career (about 91%). Guys, I don't know how this is possible, but Mike Trout is getting better.
   4. BDC Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:19 AM (#5742159)
Most of today's box-score-line records are shared by several players. The one that isn't is a sort of open-form trivia question. Most times with the exact line ab/r/h/bi, regular season since 1908:

4 3 4 4 : six tied with 2

4 3 4 6 : 27 tied with 1, most recently Jose Ramirez in 2017

4 3 4 7 : seven tied with 1, most recently Jason Varitek in 2001

4 3 4 8 : five tied with 1, most recently Didi Gregorius this April

That leaves 4345. Only one batter has done that twice. He is alive, but retired. Let's make this one of those "for each incorrect guess, another clue" items.
   5. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:22 AM (#5742160)
That leaves 4345. Only one batter has done that twice. He is alive, but retired. Let's make this one of those "for each incorrect guess, another clue" items.


George Brett, obviously.
   6. BDC Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:23 AM (#5742161)
Brett is incorrect :) The guy we want was a switch-hitter.
   7. SoSH U at work Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:23 AM (#5742162)
Willie Horton (the one that didn't help get Bush elected).

Crap. I was just trying to get it started before clue No. 1 came in.

Larry Walker.

   8. BDC Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM (#5742163)
Willie Horton is incorrect. Our guy turns 50 next spring.
   9. JJ1986 Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:27 AM (#5742165)
Roberto Alomar?
   10. BDC Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:27 AM (#5742166)
Larry Walker is incorrect too. But like Walker, our guy played solely in the National League.
   11. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:28 AM (#5742167)
Chipper Jones.
   12. BDC Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:28 AM (#5742168)
Alomar also incorrect. Our guy never played an inning at 1B, 2B, 3B, or SS.
   13. BDC Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:28 AM (#5742169)
Chipper is not correct. Our guy was the son of a major-leaguer.
   14. Sweatpants Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:34 AM (#5742173)
Todd Hundley?
   15. BDC Posted: September 11, 2018 at 11:38 AM (#5742174)
Hundley is correct!
   16. Batman Posted: September 11, 2018 at 12:18 PM (#5742200)
Last night, Josh Hader came on in the 7th inning. He faced 6 Cubs and struck them all out.

This actually tied a MLB record: most batters faced in one game where you struck them all out. This was just the 9th time in history that has been done.
Ryne Stanek set the record for starters last month by striking out the first five White Sox in a game and then getting pulled. The old record was three by Ernie Shore in 1915 and another Ray, Sergio Romo in May of this year. Nobody else had a start with more than one.
   17. Tom T Posted: September 11, 2018 at 12:30 PM (#5742203)
Hmm. In 46 years of affiliation with Purdue, I had never realized that Stu (Fat Jack's predecessor) had gone on to become an MLB GM. Obviously he should have stuck to football, where he at least had...um...interesting assistant coaches (e.g., Steinbrenner, Stram).
   18. Mike Emeigh Posted: September 11, 2018 at 12:41 PM (#5742209)
A decent Birthday Team today


Also my mother, who would have been 91 today.

-- MWE
   19. RJ in TO Posted: September 11, 2018 at 12:47 PM (#5742213)
Ellis Clary is a player I know because of a historical DMB league. He only played in the majors from 1942 to 1945, and hugely benefited from so many players being pulled away due to the war effort, as he had less than no power - for his career, he had 35 XBH in 778 PA, but 32 of those 35 XBH were doubles. However, despite his lack of power, he still put up a respectable 103 OPS+ for his career, on a line of 0.263/0.376/0.323. That sort of line seems to be completely gone from the game anymore. He went on to play another eight years in the minors after his last major league game, and mostly remained the same type of player - a bit more power, but still tons of walks.

Apparently, he spent most of the rest of his life in the game, coaching for the Senators, scouting for them when they became the Twins up until the mid-80s, and being a special assignment scout for the White Sox and Jays until he retired in 1993 at the age of 77.
   20. Nasty Nate Posted: September 11, 2018 at 12:47 PM (#5742214)
Ryne Stanek set the record for starters last month by striking out the first five White Sox in a game and then getting pulled. The old record was three by Ernie Shore in 1915 and another Ray, Sergio Romo in May of this year. Nobody else had a start with more than one.
I think Stanek may have also set the record for No Decisions as a starter this year. He has 23.
   21. PreservedFish Posted: September 11, 2018 at 12:52 PM (#5742217)
Ryan Stanek is rewriting all the record books! What a time to be alive.
   22. BDC Posted: September 11, 2018 at 01:09 PM (#5742229)
Stanek may have also set the record for No Decisions as a starter this year. He has 23


That's correct per B-Ref. The old record was 20. I guess that could be a trivia question, who was the only pitcher other than Stanek to record 20 NDs in a season? He did it at the peak of Western civilization.
   23. Sweatpants Posted: September 11, 2018 at 01:12 PM (#5742233)
Bert Blyleven, 1979?
   24. BDC Posted: September 11, 2018 at 01:19 PM (#5742238)
Sweatpants has the answer in one.

Actually that's a pretty baffling season, Blyleven in 1979. How do you go 12-5 in 37 starts?

There have been 19 seasons in history where a starter has recorded 16 or more NDs (should have specified starter, of course, a gigantic number of relievers have done that). In most of those 19 seasons, the starter threw 90-100 innings in his NDs. Blyleven threw 117. Stanek has thrown 32. Joba Chamberlain is the next-lowest in IPs, 70 IP in 16 NDs in the "Joba Rules" year of 2009.
   25. PreservedFish Posted: September 11, 2018 at 01:23 PM (#5742242)
Hahahaha Jobs Rules, forgot about that. Christ that was stupid.
   26. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: September 11, 2018 at 01:26 PM (#5742245)
In other news about obviously impressive Angels, Ohtani would be in the AL top 10 in both OPS+ (160, 5th) and ERA+ (128, 9th) had he enough PA and innings to qualify.
   27. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: September 11, 2018 at 01:35 PM (#5742253)
You’re all forgetting the HUGE record Ryne Stanek set: Most no-hitters in a season. Sunday night was his 8th!

(Sadly, his dumb manager pulled him early all 8 times, and the bullpen blew it all 8 times. Idiots!)

   28. SoSH U at work Posted: September 11, 2018 at 01:43 PM (#5742264)
How do you go 12-5 in 37 starts?


As a Hall of Fame pitcher on a World Series winner.
   29. Batman Posted: September 11, 2018 at 01:57 PM (#5742278)
Blyleven was 1-2 after 12 starts in April and May and then he went 3-1 in his 12 starts in August and September. He did remember how to win and lose in June and July, getting 10 decisions (8-2) in 13 starts.
   30. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 11, 2018 at 02:39 PM (#5742314)
By a mere eyelash the most startling scandal ever attached to the game was avoided


Just wait a couple years... I got a feeling something's gonna beat it...
   31. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 11, 2018 at 03:55 PM (#5742375)
Elsewhere in the news 100 years ago today, the head of the United States Chemical Service, Major General William Sibert, wants to assure Americans that Christy Mathewson and Ty Cobb didn’t get ‘soft’ jobs and will be actively involved with combat as gas officers.


And I could say something funny about this, too, but I will refrain: it's just too sad.

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