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Tuesday, September 12, 2017

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 9-12-2017

Tulsa Daily World, September 12, 1917:

Uncle Sam’s uniforms are worth a ticket to baseball games in Cincinnati. All soldiers in uniform will be admitted free to games at the Cincinnati National league park, President Herrman announces. This offer, however, will be suspended on Sundays.

That’s very cool of them. No snark. Thumbs up.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:29 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:32 AM (#5530083)
A good Birthday Team today, and it would be even better if you moved Freddie Freeman to third base and played Luderus at first. Freddie's been taking ground balls and is gung-ho to move across the diamond. All you've gotta do is ask. He's ready.

C: Andy Seminick (22.42 WAR)
1B: Freddie Freeman (26.5 WAR)
2B: Luis Castillo (28.9 WAR)
3B: Sean Burroughs (5.38 WAR)
SS: Maicer Izturis (11.12 WAR)
LF: Charlie Keller (42.99 WAR)
CF: Pat Listach (4.32 WAR)
RF: Albie Pearson (13.25 WAR)

SP: Mickey Lolich (49.08 WAR)
SP: Spud Chandler (24.38 WAR)
SP: Bob Groom (12 WAR)
SP: Bubba Church (7.7 WAR)
SP: Mark Thurmond (4.67 WAR)
RP: Russ Christopher (11.21 WAR)

Manager: Nick Young
Backup 1B: Fred Luderus (19.68 WAR)
Backup C: Stan Lopata (16.09 WAR)
Fun names: Hilly Hathaway, Pepper Peploski, Trench Davis, Scotti Madison, Franquelis Osoria, Patsy McGaffigan
Broadcaster: Thom Brennaman
   2. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:50 AM (#5530093)
2B: Luis Castillo (28.9 WAR)


TWO HANDS, GODDAMMIT!
   3. TDF didn't lie, he just didn't remember Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:54 AM (#5530098)
All soldiers in uniform will be admitted free to games at the Cincinnati National league park, President Herrman announces. This offer, however, will be suspended on Sundays.
September 12, 1917 was a Wednesday. The remaining schedule was (all at home):

Wednesday 9/12
Saturday 9/15
Sunday 9/16 DH
Monday 9/17
Tuesday 9/18
Saturday 9/22
Sunday 9/23 DH
Monday 9/24
Tuesday 9/25 DH
Wednesday 9/26 DH
Thursday 9/27
Saturday 9/29
Sunday 9/30 DH

So there were only 10 non-Sunday days of baseball left, and the Reds were 19 games out before the games of the 12th.

I mean, yeah, it was a pretty nice gesture (especially if there were many doughboys or veterans in the area), but it was also the end of a lost season where they were averaging only about 3,500 fans per game.
   4. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:59 AM (#5530105)
Double-headers 3 out of 4 days in September???? The Players' Association shall hear about this!
   5. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:03 AM (#5530107)
Backup 1B: Fred Luderus

Does anyone know how to pronounce this last name? I'm doing a lot of research on the 1918 season right now as I'm putting together a Strat-O-Matic card set for the season. The pronunciation isn't on bbref, and it's bugging me that I don't know how to read this in my head as LUDE-er-us or Lou-DARE-us or something else.
   6. BDC Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:03 AM (#5530108)
Mrs. Spud Chandler and son, one of my favorite Charles Conlon photographs.
   7. DaVoice of DaPeople Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:32 AM (#5530125)
Both of the catchers on the pennant-winning 1950 Phillies? Neat!
   8. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:45 AM (#5530133)
Baseball memories: Russ Christopher pitched for the Athletics in the 1940s and Bill Veeck purchased him for the 1948 Indians. In Veeck's first memoir, he talked about how unusual it was that Christopher appeared in 45 games that year, but threw only 59 innings. He added, "In four ballgames, he threw only one pitch. Each time, the pitch resulted in a double play."

Thanks to the wonders of Retrosheet and Baseball-Reference, we can now see that in 1948 Christopher pitched to exactly one batter in eight games. As you might expect from Veeck, none of the eight batters hit into a double play. It's still a pretty good story, though: Christopher was brought in eight times to get the last out of the game, got the out seven times, gave up a homer to Vern Stephens the other.
   9. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 12:22 PM (#5530149)
The pronunciation isn't on bbref, and it's bugging me that I don't know how to read this in my head as LUDE-er-us or Lou-DARE-us or something else.
I feel like I read somewhere that it's "lou-DARE-us", but I have no idea where I read that.

I know for a fact it's not pronounced lou-da-CHRIS.
   10. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 12:23 PM (#5530152)
Yep, it's lou-DARE-us.
   11. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 12, 2017 at 01:38 PM (#5530204)
By bWAR, Fred Luderus is the Phils #1 1B of all time. John Kruk is second, but since he spent about 1/3 of his time in the OF for the Phils, Ryan Howard slides into 2nd as the #2 bWAR 1B in Phillies history.

I've often wanted to call yahoo sports talk show hosts and lay it on them that Luderus is the best 1B, but they would say that shows how stupid modern statistics are. RBIzzzz, they'd say. Offensively, Howard (22+) is a tiny bit ahead of Luderus (22-), but bWAR (rightfully so) hates the rest of Howard's game (-17), for a total of 15 career bWAR for Howard.
   12. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 01:46 PM (#5530207)
Thanks, JM(DL). Although truth be told, I usually read it in my head in Mike Tyson voice as "He'th LU-dar-uth."
   13. BDC Posted: September 12, 2017 at 02:23 PM (#5530227)
By bWAR, Fred Luderus is the Phils #1 1B of all time

My old Sports Illustrated dice game (c1972) didn't even include Luderus among the all-time Phillies. They sort of didn't have a first baseman. (Kruk was in elementary school then, and Howard was unborn.) I would usually use Dick Allen there, or stow him at third base and play Ed Delehanty at first.
   14. Tim D Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:47 PM (#5530358)
"King Kong" Keller was 5'10" 185.
   15. VCar Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:53 PM (#5530365)
Double-headers 3 out of 4 days in September???? The Players' Association shall hear about this!


Yes, but it still took fewer minutes than 1 typical Bosox-Yanks game these days. And that may include the break between games.
   16. AndrewJ Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:18 PM (#5530441)
By bWAR, Fred Luderus is the Phils #1 1B of all time

He hit the first World Series home run in Phillies history, Game Five, on 10/13/1915.

Sixty-five years and one day later, Bake McBride would hit the second.
   17. RMc's Unenviable Situation Posted: September 14, 2017 at 08:26 AM (#5531345)
Uncle Sam’s uniforms are worth a ticket to baseball games in Cincinnati.

For a moment, I thought they meant you actually had to dress like Uncle Sam to get in free!

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