Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Friday, September 20, 2019

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 9-20-2019

Bridgeport Times, September 20, 1919:

WHITE SOX WILL DEMAND BIG INCREASES NEXT YEAR

When Skipper Gleason of the good ship White Sox starts marshaling his crew for a cruise on the 1920 pennant seas, he faces a task that will make his efforts in landing the 1919 American League pennant pale into insignificance. Almost unanimous will be the demands of his otherwise orderly mates for salary increases commensurate with their efforts in bringing the 1919 pennant to the Windy City.
...
“We’ve given Comiskey and the White Sox our best efforts all season, and some of us suffered a cut in salary over the previous season,” said one of the members of the team, “but there must be a substantial increase in my pay check, and I know I speak for the other fellows, before we’ll play on the South Side again. Players who do not compare in ability with men at the same positions on the Sox are drawing down more money a year than we are, and this must not be.”

Uh-oh.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 20, 2019 at 10:03 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dugout, history

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 20, 2019 at 10:04 AM (#5881147)
This is not a terribly good Birthday Team, but it can write circles around any other club in the league.

C: Tony DePhillips (-0.1 WAR)
1B: Zeke Bonura (23.4 WAR)
2B: Larry Schlafly (2.8 WAR)
3B/Manager: Chuck Dressen (8.5 WAR)
SS: Tom Tresh (22.0 WAR)
LF: Jason Bay (24.6 WAR)
CF: Ian Desmond (14.8 WAR)
RF: Dave Gallagher (4.9 WAR)

SP: Eustaquio Pedroso (Negro/Cuban Leagues star)
SP: Henry Boyle (22.7 WAR)
SP: Vic Lombardi (11.3 WAR)
SP: Dennis Ribant (3.9 WAR)
SP: Roric Harrison (3.1 WAR)
RP: Ken Giles (7.6 WAR)
RP: AJ Ramos (6.0 WAR)

Umpire: Eddie Hurley
Fun name: Mickey Klutts
Ballplayer or Mario Brothers boss?: Red Bowser
Poet Laureate/Baseball writer: Donald Hall
   2. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 20, 2019 at 10:22 AM (#5881156)
Ian Desmond was at 18.1 career WAR three years ago, at which time the Rockies signed him to a five-year, $70 million contract. Under that contract, he's contributed -3.4 WAR.
   3. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 20, 2019 at 10:22 AM (#5881157)
And the champagne was flat, too.
   4. Itchy Row Posted: September 20, 2019 at 10:55 AM (#5881162)
it can write circles around any other club
No, Blyleven is on the April 6 team.
   5. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: September 20, 2019 at 12:25 PM (#5881194)
20 years ago today, Jon Lieber retired the first 20 batters he faced - and then allowed 5 runs in 7 pitches.
   6. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: September 20, 2019 at 12:26 PM (#5881195)
40 years ago today, Tony Solaita became the only person to homer for MTL & TOR in the same season
   7. crict Posted: September 20, 2019 at 12:36 PM (#5881198)
40 years ago today, Tony Solaita became the only person to homer for MTL & TOR in the same season


I know a lot of things about the Expos, but not that one. Of course, the only others to have even played for MTL & TOR in the same season are Omar Daal, Tom Hutton, Steve Nicosia, Mitch Webster and Ken Williams.
   8. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 20, 2019 at 12:54 PM (#5881204)
I just looked it up and was surprised to learn Rheal Cormier never played for both teams in the same season. And I was absolutely stunned to learn he never played for Toronto.

Am I crazy? Didn't the Jays have a Canadian lefty around that time? Maybe I'm misremembering.

edit: Denis Boucher! That's who I was thinking of. Also, Paul Spoljaric was a Blue Jays left-hander from Canada.
   9. jeffy Posted: September 20, 2019 at 01:22 PM (#5881210)
At a time when multiple players have been suspended for off-the-field conduct, why has no one investigated Willson Contreras for stealing a letter from the name of his fellow Chicago-area catcher, Welington Castillo?
   10. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 20, 2019 at 01:35 PM (#5881211)
At a time when multiple players have been suspended for off-the-field conduct, why has no one investigated Willson Contreras for stealing a letter from the name of his fellow Chicago-area catcher, Welington Castillo?
It's Chicago. People take the L all the time.
   11. RJ in TO Posted: September 20, 2019 at 01:47 PM (#5881219)
Am I crazy? Didn't the Jays have a Canadian lefty around that time? Maybe I'm misremembering.
Perhaps you're thinking of Denis Boucher or Paul Spoljaric. Probably the former, as he did play for bot the Expos and Jays, altough not in the same season.
   12. mathesond Posted: September 20, 2019 at 01:53 PM (#5881220)
I believe the Jays made the Boucher the centrepiece of a trade offer to the Expos in return for Dennis Martinez, in the early 90's. Can't imagine why the Expos didn't bite on that one...
   13. crict Posted: September 20, 2019 at 02:35 PM (#5881240)
If we were to make a team out of Expos/Jays players, building it like the birthday teams, and using career values, we'd obtain:

C: Charlie O'Brien, 9.7 WAR
1B: Al Oliver, 43.7 WAR
2B: Maicer Izturis, 11.3 WAR
3B: Tony Batista, 13.8 WAR
SS: Alex Gonzalez, 11.2 WAR
LF: Dave Martinez, 19.1 WAR
CF: Otis Nixon, 16.6 WAR
RF: Ron Fairly, 35.1 WAR

SP: John Candeleria, 41.9 WAR
SP: Ted Lilly, 21.1 WAR
SP: Miguel Batista, 12.6 WAR
SP: Tomo Ohka, 11.3 WAR
SP: Omar Daal, 8.6 WAR
RP: Jon Rauch, 6.5 WAR
RP: Graeme Lloyd, 5.2 WAR
RP: Bill Risley, 3.6 WAR
RP: Dale Murray, 2.5 WAR

Backup catchers: Rick Cerone (8.1 WAR), Darrin Fletcher (7.7 WAR)
Spare bats: Brad Wilkerson (11.0 WAR), David Segui (10.4 WAR)
Manager: Ken Macha
General Manager: Ken Williams

   14. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 20, 2019 at 02:52 PM (#5881246)
stealing a letter


This ship sailed when Paul Maholm got away with swiping a whole syllable from Casey McGehee.
   15. Itchy Row Posted: September 20, 2019 at 04:05 PM (#5881281)
Two players only played for the Jays and Expos- Tony Johnson (MON-1981 and TOR-1982) and Luis Lopez (TOR-2001 and MON-2004). Lopez only played 52 major league games, but he had a 20-year pro career with at least 2546 hits.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Dynasty League Baseball

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
TedBerg
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogCC Sabathia has a case for Cooperstown
(22 - 3:36am, Oct 21)
Last: Jaack

NewsblogAstros enter World Series against Nationals as heaviest favorites since 2007
(2 - 2:38am, Oct 21)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogWhy did Jeff Bridich give Nolan Arenado an opt-out clause?:The Athletic (paywall):Groke
(3 - 1:05am, Oct 21)
Last: Dr. Vaux

NewsblogChampionship Series OMNICHATTER!
(1140 - 11:39pm, Oct 20)
Last: Red Voodooin

NewsblogEric Cooper, MLB umpire for 21 years, dies at age 52
(4 - 11:30pm, Oct 20)
Last: Walks Clog Up the Bases

NewsblogOT - NBA thread (pre-season)
(575 - 11:25pm, Oct 20)
Last: tshipman

NewsblogSavages in the box go bust with slew of strikeouts
(25 - 11:05pm, Oct 20)
Last: ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

NewsblogClinching heroics net Altuve ALCS MVP honors
(16 - 11:02pm, Oct 20)
Last: bobm

NewsblogOT- Soccer Thread- October 2019
(192 - 10:55pm, Oct 20)
Last: Sean Forman

NewsblogCapital hill: Astros, Nats put World Series eyes on pitching
(4 - 9:11pm, Oct 20)
Last: puck

NewsblogWaiting game: Nationals get 6 days off before World Series
(14 - 8:47pm, Oct 20)
Last: AndrewJ

NewsblogThe hit-by-pitch god
(11 - 8:42pm, Oct 20)
Last: The Duke

NewsblogOT - 2019 NFL thread
(33 - 8:36pm, Oct 20)
Last: It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out

NewsblogEx-Red Sox knuckleballer Steven Wright to undergo Tommy John surgery
(4 - 5:24pm, Oct 20)
Last: the Hugh Jorgan returns

Hall of MeritRoy Halladay, Mariano Rivera, and "Cannonball" Dick Redding elected - Hall of Merit Class of 2019
(57 - 4:51pm, Oct 20)
Last: Jaack

Page rendered in 0.3604 seconds
46 querie(s) executed