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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 9-23-2019

Pittsburgh Press, September 23, 1919:

It is believed that Sunday’s Superba-Red game established a major record for brevity. The full nine innings were played, including the last half of the ninth, as the Reds were behind and had to finish that inning. The exact time was 55 minutes. The world’s record for brevity in a nine-inning game is 32 minutes, made by the Mobile and Atlanta clubs at Atlanta on September 17, 1910. It was the last game of the season and the players agreed to make it as short as possible, running in and out from their positions at full speed and hustling in every way to save time.

Unless something happened recently and I missed it, the longest inning in baseball history came on May 8, 2004, when the Tigers and Rangers took 68 minutes to play the fifth inning.

In the length of time that single Rangers-Tigers inning took to play, you could play the entire Atlanta-Mobile game, take five minutes to let new teams take the field (we’re hurrying, after all), and play more than half of the September 21, 1919 Brooklyn-Cincinnati game.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 23, 2019 at 10:10 AM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 23, 2019 at 10:16 AM (#5882135)
Today's Birthday Team has a pretty good pitching staff but not a great offense. Grant Johnson was one of the best hitters on the planet for a long while, but past him it's Matt Kemp and Jeff Cirillo carrying the team.

The corner outfield is sketchy at best; Greene and Morrison are infielders who weren't even good hitters for third basemen. There weren't a lot of options. Cirillo's also out of position as a first baseman, but he at least hit for average. If you get .320+ BA Jeff Cirillo, you're probably fine with him not having much power.

C: Terry McGriff (-0.6 WAR)
1B: Jeff Cirillo (34.6 WAR)
2B: Heinie Wagner (17.1 WAR)
3B: Jedd Gyorko (10.5 WAR)
SS/Manager: Grant Johnson (Negro Leagues star who's a glaring HoF omission)
LF: Jim Morrison (12.1 WAR)
CF: Matt Kemp (21.2 WAR)
RF: Willie Greene (3.1 WAR)

SP: Lefty Stewart (25.5 WAR)
SP: Jim Rooker (19.7 WAR)
SP: Pete Harnisch (17.9 WAR)
SP: Dennis Lamp (15.6 WAR)
SP: Hod Lisenbee (5.6 WAR)
RP: Joba Chamberlain (7.6 WAR)

General Manager: Woody Woodward
The LOOGYest LOOGY who ever LOOGYd: Tony Fossas (2.5 WAR)
Fun names: Pep Harris, Lino Donoso, Xavier Scruggs, Biff Schaller, Brian Asselstine
   2. Born1951 Posted: September 23, 2019 at 01:44 PM (#5882226)
Highest team slugging average in history:

2019 Astros .497
2019 Twins .495
2019 Yankees .493
2003 Red Sox .491
1927 Yankees .488 (.4884)
1930 Yankees .488 (.4878)
1997 Mariners .485
   3. salvomania Posted: September 23, 2019 at 02:11 PM (#5882243)
After starting all four games in this past weekend's series against the Cubs, Yadier Molina became the first player ever to start 100 games behind the plate in 15 consecutive seasons. Only one other catcher has 15 seasons with 100+ games started at catcher (Ivan Rodriguez, 16), but his longest streak was eight consecutive seasons.

There are adult Cardinal fans, fans since they were small children, who have only ever known Yadier Molina as the Cardinals' regular catcher. The last regular Cardinals catcher before Molina is almost 50 years old and had a seven-year managerial career after he retired as a player 13 years ago.
   4. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: September 23, 2019 at 02:17 PM (#5882246)
The LOOGYest LOOGY who ever LOOGYd: Tony Fossas (2.5 WAR)

lifetime 567 games, 415 2/3 IP; last 7 years of his career 355 games, 233 IP
   5. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 23, 2019 at 02:29 PM (#5882251)
Brian Asselstine
Gets me every time. Every single time.
   6. vortex of dissipation Posted: September 23, 2019 at 02:38 PM (#5882258)
The LOOGYest LOOGY who ever LOOGYd: Tony Fossas (2.5 WAR)


Ken Griffey Jr. was a guest on the Mariners TV broadcast earlier this year, and when asked who the pitcher he had the toughest time against was, said "Tony Fossas". He wasn't joking - in 25 career PA against him, Griffey hit .125/.160/.250. He did hit one homer, but that's basically it...
   7. Nasty Nate Posted: September 23, 2019 at 02:43 PM (#5882261)
I have a Tony Fossas autograph!
   8. bbmck Posted: September 23, 2019 at 06:04 PM (#5882345)
Seasons of 100+ games at C for each franchise during Yadier's streak:

ARI (10) - Miguel Montero 5, Chris Snyder 3, Welington Castillo 1, Johnny Estrada 1
ATL (9) - Brian McCann 7, AJ Pierzynski 1, Johnny Estrada 1
CHC (10) - Geovany Soto 3, Willson Contreras 2, Welington Castillo 2, Michael Barrett 2, Miguel Montero 1
CIN (7) - Tucker Barnhart 3, Devin Mesoraco 1, Ryan Hanigan 1, David Ross 1, Jason LaRue 1
COL (8) - Wilin Rosario 2, Chris Iannetta 2, Tony Wolters 1, Nick Hundley 1, Miguel Olivo 1, Yorvit Torrealba 1

LAD (10) - Yasmani Grandal 4, Russell Martin 4, AJ Ellis 2
MIA (12) - JT Realmuto 4, John Buck 2, Miguel Olivo 2, Jorge Alfaro 1, Jarrod Saltalamacchia 1, John Baker 1, Paul Lo Duca 1
MIL (9) - Jonathan Lucroy 3, Jason Kendall 2, Yasmani Grandal 1, Manny Pina 1, Johnny Estrada 1, Damian Miller 1
NYM (8) - Josh Thole 2, Paul Lo Duca 2, Wilson Ramos 1, Travis d'Arnaud 1, Brian Schneider 1, Mike Piazza 1
PHI (11) - Carlos Ruiz 7, JT Realmuto 1, Jorge Alfaro 1, Cameron Rupp 1, Mike Lieberthal 1

PIT (7) - Russell Martin 2, Ryan Doumit 2, Ronny Paulino 2, Francisco Cervelli 1
SDP (5) - Derek Norris 2, Austin Hedges 1, Nick Hundley 1, Josh Bard 1
SFG (9) - Buster Posey 5, Bengie Molina 3, Mike Matheny 1
STL (15) - Yadier Molina 15
WSN (8) - Wilson Ramos 3, Brian Schneider 3, Matt Wieters 1, Ivan Rodriguez 1

BAL (8) - Matt Wieters 5, Ramon Hernandez 3
BOS (9) - Jason Varitek 4, Jarrod Saltalamacchia 3, Christian Vazquez 1, Victor Martinez 1
CHW (11) - AJ Pierzynski 8, Tyler Flowers 2, James McCann 1
CLE (9) - Yan Gomes 3, Victor Martinez 3, Roberto Perez 1, Carlos Santana 1, Kelly Shoppach 1
DET (10) - James McCann 3, Alex Avila 3, Ivan Rodriguez 3, Gerald Laird 1

HOU (7) - Jason Castro 3, Brad Ausmus 3, Robinson Chirinos 1
KCR (11) - Salvador Perez 5, John Buck 4, Jason Kendall 1, Miguel Olivo 1
LAA (4) - Chris Iannetta 2, Martin Maldonado 1, Bengie Molina 1
MIN (8) - Joe Mauer 5, Kurt Suzuki 2, Jason Castro 1
NYY (10) - Jorge Posada 4, Brian McCann 2, Russell Martin 2, Gary Sanchez 1, Chris Stewart 1

OAK (10) - Kurt Suzuki 4, Jason Kendall 2, Josh Phegley 1, Jonathan Lucroy 1, Stephen Vogt 1, Derek Norris 1
SEA (8) - Mike Zunino 4, Kenji Johjima 3, Miguel Olivo 1
TBR (6) - Dioner Navarro 3, Rene Rivera 1, Jose Molina 1, Toby Hall 1
TEX (4) - Robinson Chirinos 1, AJ Pierzynski 1, Gerald Laird 1, Rod Barajas 1
TOR (10) - Russell Martin 2, JP Arencibia 2, Gregg Zaun 2, Danny Jansen 1, Dioner Navarro 1, John Buck 1, Rod Barajas 1
   9. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: September 23, 2019 at 07:23 PM (#5882370)
The world’s record for brevity in a nine-inning game is 32 minutes, made by the Mobile and Atlanta clubs at Atlanta on September 17, 1910.

And I found the box score! (It's in the Montgomery Advertiser of September 10, 1918. Thank you, Newspapers.com!)

60 at-bats, 1 walk, 17 side changes (yes, Atlanta had to bat in the bottom of the ninth) and no pitching changes.

78 "events" in...32 minutes! A turbo-charged 0.41 minutes per event, or one event every 24.6 seconds!

How fast is that? Well, remember this game from last week? Took 'em almost six friggin' hours, 5:54 to be exact, to play 152 events. If they had played it as fast as that Mobile-Atlanta game, it would have been over in...just over an hour (62 minutes). Wow!

Just imagine if baseball games were played this fast all the time! A typical game would be about 45 minutes! Double and triple-headers would become common, with quadruple-headers every Fourth of July! The season would be 300+ games long! (Old PCL, get outa here with your 200-game seasons!)

OK. OK. I'll see myself out.
   10. eric Posted: September 23, 2019 at 09:33 PM (#5882394)
lifetime 567 games, 415 2/3 IP; last 7 years of his career 355 games, 233 IP


A few seasons from his career:

1992-- 60 G/29.2 IP
1993-- 71/40.0
1998-- 41/22.2
1999-- 5/1 (ouch; 36.00 ERA, not surprisingly)

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