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Friday, September 27, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 9-27-2013

Pittsburgh Press, September 27, 1913:

Walter Johnson, the Kansas speed ball pitching marvel, today turned down cold an offer of $1,500 a week to do a vaudeville monologue. He doesn’t like publicity.

That’s around $35,000 a week in 2013 dollars. Johnson could have doubled his baseball salary in a little more than a month, but turned it down because he didn’t like publicity.

That’s pretty cool, if a bit crazy, IMO.

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 27, 2013 at 06:09 AM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dugout, history, walter johnson

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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 27, 2013 at 06:12 AM (#4551956)
A deep pitching staff and the all-time leader in home runs by an Ohio-born player headline today's Birthday Team. The San Diego Chicken will not be invited to their games, however.

C: Frank Gibson
1B: Jason Phillips
2B: Gary Sutherland
3B: Mike Schmidt
SS: Alan Storke
LF: Len Matuszek
CF: Doug Baird
RF: Joe Visner

SP: Whit Wyatt
SP: Jon Garland
SP: Vicente Padilla
SP: Dave Wickersham
SP: John Lannan
RP: Dick Hall
RP: Jon Rauch

General Manager: Bill Lajoie
Fun Names: Radhames Dykhoff, Slats Jordan
Chicken Hater: Don Schulze
In The Big Inning There Was: Vin Mazzaro
   2. eddieot Posted: September 27, 2013 at 08:16 AM (#4551989)
the Kansas speed ball pitching marvel

Wait. So Springsteen wasn't wrong, he was just talking about Walter Johnson.
   3. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: September 27, 2013 at 08:28 AM (#4551997)
At THT, today is the 10th anniversary of the Tigers making an amazing comeback to avoid infamy. Also: Jesse Orosco's career ends in ignominious manner in that same game.
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 27, 2013 at 09:21 AM (#4552024)
Jose Canseco accepts your $1,500 offer.
   5. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 27, 2013 at 09:33 AM (#4552039)
chris

good story
   6. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 27, 2013 at 10:40 AM (#4552127)
I had no idea that Junior Lake was an actual person until about five minutes ago, and given that he plays for the Cubs, I'm really disappointed to learn that he's not Steve Lake's kid.
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 27, 2013 at 11:10 AM (#4552174)
All water team

C Steve Lake
1B Harmon Kill-ebrew
2B Robinson Cano
SS Hubie Brooks
3B Brooks Robinson
OF Mickey Rivers
OF Junior Lake
OF Jason Bay

Bench: OF Simon Pond, OF George Canale, OF Tom Marsh

P Bronson Arroyo
P Jack Spring
P Kim Seaman
P Doug Creek
P Jim Poole
P Rod Beck
   8. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: September 27, 2013 at 11:28 AM (#4552192)
Cuba announces that its players will be able to play in foreign leagues, so long as they satisfy domestic requirements. Said requirements should make MLB a non-option, even aside political concerns, but this is a potentially big move.
   9. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: September 27, 2013 at 11:32 AM (#4552198)
I have a friend who is getting ready to retire, and would like to get her a gift I know she would appreciate. While she is no longer a sports fan, she has mentioned the sheer agony she suffered over Bobby Thomson's HR in 1951 against her Brooklyn Dodgers. She says the thought of it still depresses her.

Somewhere long ago, I heard an audio clip that changed the ending of the game, having Thompson fly out or something, and ultimately having the Dodgers win the game. Does anyone know of it, or better yet, have a link?
   10. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 27, 2013 at 12:10 PM (#4552242)
Anyone know a good site to find old interesting baseball memorabilia? I don't care for autographs or baseball cards, but bats, jerseys, interesting memorabilia, stuff from old stadiums, that kind of stuff.
   11. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 27, 2013 at 12:59 PM (#4552292)
Well done, #7.

What about Ice Williams?
   12. Born1951 Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:12 PM (#4552305)
Seems like an unusually large number of good pitchers starting tonight: Buchholz, CJ Wilson, Shields, Chris Sale, Cliff Lee, Bartolo Colon, King Felix, Strasburg, Corbin, Kershaw.
   13. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 27, 2013 at 01:54 PM (#4552359)
Surely there's room for Tug McGraw in the #7 bullpen.

EDIT: Along with Luis Arroyo.
   14. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:03 PM (#4552367)
I've gotta think Tim Raines plays every day for the all water team. J.T. Snow is a nice guy to have around on the bench.
   15. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:05 PM (#4552369)
If you stretch to include a fishing rod, surely Dock Ellis can fit on your team.
   16. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:10 PM (#4552375)
Don't forget about Luis Agua, Yo!
   17. salvomania Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:12 PM (#4552378)
How about Hoot (H20) Evers?
   18. Good cripple hitter Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:23 PM (#4552390)
"The Human Rain Delay" could manage or be a bat off the bench.
   19. esseff Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:44 PM (#4552423)
J.T. Snow is a nice guy to have around on the bench.


I'd wait until he heats up.
   20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:48 PM (#4552426)
John Sickels has his end of the year Top 75 prospects list. It includes 2013 draftees, but not intl signings.

1. Buxton
2. Bogarts
3. Sano
4. Taijuan Walker
5. Archie Bradley
6. Carlos Correa
7. Francisco Lindor
8. Javier Baez
9. George Springer
10.Oscar Taveras

Two Twins, two Astros in the top ten. Not too shabby.
   21. BDC Posted: September 27, 2013 at 02:49 PM (#4552427)
would like to get her a gift I know she would appreciate. While she is no longer a sports fan, she has mentioned the sheer agony she suffered over Bobby Thomson's HR in 1951

You could simply point out to her that the Giants left for California too, but in their case nobody cares :)
   22. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 27, 2013 at 03:10 PM (#4552445)
All water team


Stan Cove-leski or Willie Mc-Cove-y
   23. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 27, 2013 at 03:21 PM (#4552455)
Don't forget about Luis Agua, Yo!

And ol' Joe Breadnwater.
   24. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: September 27, 2013 at 06:22 PM (#4552577)
Game of the day (yesterday): Rangers 6, Angels 5. We interrupt your scheduled Mariano Rivera retirement coverage to bring you... a pennant race!

The Angels scored against Matt Garza in the first when JB Shuck and Erick Aybar singled and Mike Trout hit into an RBI forceout. Texas countered in the bottom of the inning on singles by Ian Kinsler, Elvis Andrus, Adrian Beltre, and AJ Pierzynski, taking a 2-1 lead. With runners at the corners, Mitch Moreland then flied out; Beltre scored, and Pierzynski was thrown out trying for second, making it the highly unusual run-scoring, inning-ending double play.

LA rallied in the top of the second, starting with two outs when Andrew Romine reached on a Moreland error. Shuck singles, and Aybar reached on a miscue by Kinsler, scoring Romine. Trout then hit an infield single to third, bringing Shuck home, and Aybar scored the go-ahead run on the play when Beltre made a throwing error. Three Texas errors, three Angel runs, and the lead was gone.

Jerome Williams recovered quickly after his dodgy first inning, working around an infield hit in the second and throwing a perfect third. Pierzynski and Craig Gentry both singled in the fourth, but David Murphy hit into a double play to waste the opportunity. Garza, meanwhile, circumvented singles by Mark Trumbo and Chris Iannetta in the third and retired the side in order in the fourth before getting back into trouble in the fifth. Howie Kendrick and Kole Calhoun started the inning with singles; Trumbo singled as well, but Kendrick was thrown out trying for home on the play. Iannetta walked to load the bases with one out, and Romine and Shuck both hit line drives, but both liners were caught, ending the inning without an Angel scoring.

Naturally, the Rangers had an even better chance in the bottom of the inning. Leonys Martin and Kinsler both singled, and Andrus reached on Romine's error to load the bases with nobody out. Alexis Rios struck out, however, and Beltre hit into a double play to keep the Angels ahead by a run.

Garza was pulled after a Trout single in the top of the sixth, and Robbie Ross retired the next two hitters. Buddy Boshers relieved for the Angels in the bottom of the inning and allowed a two-out single to Gentry. Cory Rasmus replaced Boshers, allowed Gentry to steal second, and walked Jeff Baker, who was lifted for pinch runner Adam Rosales. Martin then doubled, scoring both runners and putting Texas in front.

LA tied the game two batters into the seventh, as Calhoun greeted Tanner Scheppers with a triple and Trumbo singled him home. JC Gutierrez, Neal Cotts, and Dane de la Rosa were each perfect for an inning between the seventh and eighth, and after Cotts issued a leadoff walk to Josh Hamilton in the ninth, Joe Nathan kept him from scoring (barely - a wild pitch and a groundout moved him to third, and the first of the two ensuing strikeouts required a throw to first on which Hamilton did not advance.)

Michael Kohn replaced de la Rosa in the bottom of the ninth, and threw three pitches; the third of them was hammered to right for a walkoff homer by Jurickson Profar.

The game went from 1-0 to 3-1 to 4-3 to 5-4 to 5-5 to 6-5, which is nice. It also featured an inning in which both teams had the bases loaded with one out and no outs, respectively, and didn't score; also, the one out before the bases were loaded by the Angels was a runner getting thrown out at home on a hit. And finally, the game kept the Rangers one back of Cleveland in the wild card race. So... this was a pretty good one.
   25. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: September 27, 2013 at 07:39 PM (#4552619)
Game of the day (1977): Expos 9, Cardinals 5. Wayne Twitchell, who was pretty mediocre outside of a couple of rather excellent years (1977 was not one of those), against Eric Rasmussen, who was a pretty decent young arm (albeit one with an 11-17 record in '77) who didn't really work out long term.

Montreal tested Rasmussen early and often. Dave Cash and Andre Dawson both drew walks in the first, and singles by Warren Cromartie, Larry Parrish, and Cash loaded the bases in the second before Chris Speier hit into an inning-ending force. The Expos broke through in the third when Dawson led off with a double and took the next two bases on flyouts, and doubled their lead in the fourth when Parrish was hit by a pitch, moved to second on a bunt and third on a flyout, and scored on Speier's double.

Twitchell, meanwhile, was perfect through four innings. St. Louis put its first runners on when Ken Reitz and Jim Dwyer singled in the fifth, but didn't score until the sixth. Rasmussen drew a leadoff walk; two forceouts later, Jerry Mumphrey was at first when Garry Templeton hit an inside-the-park homer to tie the game at 2.

The tie was short-lived in the extreme. Speier started the seventh by reaching on a Mike Tyson error, and moved to second on Dawson's groundout. Tony Perez was intentionally walked, and Ellis Valentine hit into a force of the lead runner at third, but Gary Carter followed with a go-ahead 3-run homer. The Cards began the comeback process in the bottom of the inning; Reitz singled, Dwyer was hit by a pitch, Dane Iorg loaded the bases with a pinch single, and Lou Brock singled in a run to make it 5-3 before Twitchell escaped the inning. Butch Metzger worked a perfect eighth, and Twitchell walked Templeton to start the St. Louis half of the inning before being relieved by Will McEnaney. A forceout and a Keith Hernandez single later, Don Stanhouse replaced McEnaney; he promptly allowed a single to Reitz, got Dwyer to fly out, and yielded a game-tying single to pinch hitter Dave Rader.

Rawly Eastwick came in for the ninth. He allowed consecutive singles to Speier, Dawson, Perez, and Valentine, putting the Expos up one with the bases loaded, and was removed as quickly as possible. Al Hrabosky took over and allowed a two-run single to Carter, then hit Cromartie with a pitch to reload the bases. The inning petered out from there, as Parrish hit into a force at home, Stanhouse tacked on a fourth run with a sac fly, and Cash flied out, but it hardly mattered; Stanhouse walked Brock and allowed a single to Templeton, but that only put the tying run on deck, and it never came to the plate.

If you want, you can interpret this game as the Expos experimentally determining the size of lead that would be too large for the Cardinals to overcome: they tried 2- and 3-run leads and St. Louis rallied from both of those, so they went with a 4-run lead, and that worked. Or, if you're less of a geek, you could always just focus on Ken Reitz having an Aprilesque performance (3/4 with a run and an RBI) that was more than countered by arguably the best game of the early stages of Gary Carter's Hall of Fame career (3/4 with a double, a homer, a walk, 2 runs, and 5 RBI; the RBI total remained his career high for 3 more years).

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