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Wednesday, September 03, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 9-3-2014

Toledo News-Bee, September 3, 1914:

There is only one instance on record of an umpire putting a man out of a game who was asleep. An umpire did put Dummy Hoy out of a game for calling him names, but Vic Willis was the victim of the even more remarkable case. Vic was with the Boston team and the players on the bench were warbling at Emslie every instant. Bob was listening hard, striving to identify the culprits and keeping an eye toward the bench. Finally he whirled and called out:

“Willis—off the field. Get out of there.”

The Boston players suddenly became convulsed with mirth. Emslie rushed to the bench to enforce his mandate and there was Willis, sound asleep and snoring with his head resting against the side of the bench. Emslie had to wake him up and order him off to make good.

Is an umpire allowed to change his mind about an ejection? I assume not, but I’ve also never heard of a sleeping player getting ejected for verbal abuse.

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 03, 2014 at 07:55 AM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 03, 2014 at 07:59 AM (#4784355)
Meanwhile, on the field 100 years ago, the Braves have won 39 of their last 50 games and have not only caught, but passed, the three-time defending league champion Giants for first place.
   2. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 03, 2014 at 08:02 AM (#4784356)
Today's Birthday Team.

George Stone is not really a center fielder but had good speed and could probably have faked it. His arm was just awful, but otherwise he had the physical tools to handle center.

The other option is to play Stone in LF, move Gonzo to RF, bench Clark, and play Ced Landrum in CF. Yuck.

Anyway, as I've mentioned before, Stone is one of my favorite obscure ballplayers. He was a little guy, hit everywhere he ever played but never got a real shot at a MLB job until he hit .406 with 62 extra-base hits in 1904 as a 27-year-old in the American Association. That's 62 extra-base hits in the dead ball era.

The Browns gave him their every day left field job in 1905 and, as a 28-year-old rookie, Stone led the American League in hits and total bases. The next season, he led the AL in batting average, on-base, slugging, and total bases. Stone was out of baseball by 1912, the victim of malaria, an ankle injury, and a late start to his major league career.

And despite Miserlou's objection in the 9-3-2012 dugout, Alan Bannister stays at shortstop, though Gonzales will be activated as a defensive replacement with some regularity.

C: Harry Decker
1B: Ed Konetchy
2B/Manager: Eddie Stanky
3B: Dave Berg
SS: Alan Bannister
LF: Luis Gonzalez
CF: George Stone
RF: Dave Clark

SP: Art Fromme
SP: Tom Brewer
SP: Nate Robertson
SP: Sandy Consuegra
SP: Morrie Martin
RP: Eric Plunk

Utilityman: Rene Gonzales
   3. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 03, 2014 at 08:45 AM (#4784380)
Meanwhile, on the field 100 years ago


If you read a website like this every day, you're almost certainly in the top 5% of baseball fans in terms of history knowledge. Yet I look at that article about a turning point in the game's history and half the names I couldn't recognize as baseball players.
   4. Dag is a salt water fish in fresh water world Posted: September 03, 2014 at 08:56 AM (#4784387)
1876 George Stone, briefly a great hitter, born
1885 Ed Konetchy, 1B, born
1890 100 homers: Harry Stovey, first to do so
1894 Connie Mack fills out his first lineup card
1897 Willie Keeler & Jack Doyle both get 6 hits in a game for BAL
1901 Joe McGinnity pitches both ends of DH vs Mil, 10-0 win, 6-1 loss for NYG
1902 100 homers: Ed Delahanty
1903 Jesse Stovall, CLE, tosses 11-inning SHO in starting debut. 1-0 over DET. Longest 1st GS SHO
1903 Quadruple header: Hudson sweeps Poughkeepsiein Hudson River Leaguer. Due to rainouts
1905 MLB debut: Eddie Cicotte
1906 Kid Elberfeld ejected in argument w/ ump - has to be hauled off field by squad of cops while kicking & screaming
1906 Ty Cobb plays after missing 6wks (either stomach prob or in sanitarium)
1907 A’s sign Harry Coveleski
1907 NYG draft Doc Crandall from Cedar Rapids (Three I League) in rule 5 draft
1908 Rube Marquard offered $11,000 by NYG after scouts watch him pitch perfect game for Indianapolis
1915 Eddie Stanky born
1917 CWS sweep d-header vs DET for 2nd straight day. Then give $45 from e. CWS player to DET as gift. Later accusations of bribery
1917 Pete Alexander wins both ends of doubleheader: PHI over BRK
1924 Wilbur Cooper, pitcher, gets a hit in the 16th straight game -longest hitting streak by a pitcher
1925 Bill Veeck Sr replaces R Maranville as manager after only 8 weeks after he dumped spittoon contents on napping player
1927 Doc Gautreau, BOB, steals home 2x in one game vs BRK
1927 NYY shutout 1-0 by PHA & Lefty Grove. Only shutout of them all year
1928 Ty Cobb’s last hit. A double. Has two more pinch hit attempts but that’s it for him
1934 Joe Cronin, WAS, breaks bone in arm when colLides at 1st w/ BOX pitcher Wes Ferrell. Cronin out for the year
1935 Judge Landis overrules $1,000 fine CIN imposed on Chick Hafey. Went home w/ chronic sinus/sight problems.
1946 last game: Babe Dahlgren
1947 Bill McCahahn throws no-hitter for the A’
1948 Bob Lemon’s 3rd straight SHO: 27 IP, 13 H, 8 BB, 17 K
1951 Bill Klem dies
1953 Jack Pfiester “Jack the Giant Killer” dies
1956 MLB debut: Mike McCormick, pitcher (17 years old, 339 days at the time)
1960 Hank Aaron walks 5 times in 1 game
1961 Mickey Mantle hits his 50th HR of the year. Mickey Mantle’s 8th mutli-HR game of the year
1961 MLB debut; Tom Tresh
1963 MLB debut: Dick Allen
1963 Ron Santo, CHC, has three errors in an inning at 3B
1965 Los Angeles Angels change name to California Angels. Doesn’t take
1966 last game; Robin Roberts
1966 MLB debut: Rick Monday, and Sal Bando (Same game)
1967 Hank Aaron hits his 17th HR off of Don Drysdale, his most off any pitcher
1967 Luis Gonzalez born
1968 last game: Bill Monbouquette
1968 MLB debut: Ralph Garr
1970 Billy Williams consecutive game streak ends at 1,117. He’s pooped
1971 Bases-loaded walk-off triple. Manny Mota hit it
1971 last game: Jim Bunning
1971 MLB debut: Bill North, Ron Cey
1971 Phillip K. Wrigley buys newspaper ad to give Leo Durocher a vote of confidence, criticizing Cubs’ “anti-Leo” faction
1972 Hank Aaron passe Stan Musial for most TB
1973 Best known WPA game by CWS bat: Carlos May: 1.201. 4-for-5, 1 2B, 1 HR, 2 run, 5 RBI, 1 BB. CWS 8, TEX 7
1973 Bobby Bonds hits the first of 2 career w-off GRAND SLAMS. SFG 11, LAD 8
1973 last game: Ray Culp
1973 Walkoff inside the park HR by Richie Hebner
1974 John Montefusco, SF P, homers in his 1st AB - nice MLB debut
1974 Last SFG reliever to toss 9 IP in relief: John Montefusco. Only 2 more in all NL: 1 8 days later
1975 last game: Bob Gibson: last pitch: grand slam to Pete LaCock
1975 Steve Garvey, LAD, begins his 1,207 games played consecutively streak. LAD 13, CIN 2. Missed last 2 days to the flu
1976 MLB debut: Jim Gantner
1977 Sadaharu Oh hits his 756th HR
1979 Sea 1Bman catches ball hit off of Kingdome speaker for an out
1981 MLB debut: Mell Hall, Jesse Barfield
1981 Tim Raines steals a base for 7th straight game. 12 SB in all
1982 Final game: Ron LeFlore
1985 MLB debut: Paul O’Neill
1986 MLB debut: Greg Maddux (as a pinch runner), Kevin Seitzer
1986 Terry Muholland can’t get hard shot out of his mitt - so tosses his mitt to 1st to get out
1988 MLB debut: Gary Sheffield
1989 7 HBP in KCR-TEX game. Mike Macfarlane, 5th Royal hit, charges mound
1989 MLB debut: John Olerud
1989 Rip Sewell dies
1991 Jim Gantner, MIL, homers. Ends 1,762 straight AB w/out one. He’ll hit another on 9/5.
1991 last game: Ron Hassey
1991 MLB debut: Pat Hentgen
1992 MLB owners vote 18-9 w/ 1 abstaining to call for resignation of commissioner Fay Vincent
1993 Manny Ramirez’s 1st HR. and 2nd.
1995 MLB debut: Tony Clark
1997 MLB debut: Ben Grieve, Orlando Cabrera
1998 KC purchases Jeff Suppan from ARI
1999 federal court upholds the resignations of 22 umpires
1999 Terry Collins, LAA, resigns as manager
2000 Kenny Lofton steals 5 bases. He also ties 1939 Red Rolfe record by scoring in 18th consectuvie games
2001 Bud Smith throws no-hitter
2002 Andy Van Hekken, DET, 1st AL pitcher to toss CG SHO in his debut since Mike Norris in 1975
2002 MLB debut: Hee-Seop Choi
2002 NYM lose their 15th straight home game
2003 MLB debut: Khalil Greene
2004 MLB debut: Gavin Floyd, Nick Swisher
2006 Albert Pujols hits 3 HR in one game for 3rd time
2007 Pedro Martinez’s 3000th K
2008 1st instant replay use in MLB: A-Rod homers. Upheld
2008 estimated crowd of 600 attends FLA-ATL game in Florida. Weekday, day game, swelting 90+ heat and very humid. Worst of all, a Marlins game
2009 Jerry Kossman sentenced to 6 monhsin jail for failling to pay his income taxes in 2002, 2003, and 2004
2011 200th time Tony LaRussa and Dusty Baker manage against each other. Only 2nd manager pair to do that in divisional era (D.Williams-C.Tanner, too)
2012 Adam Dunn, CWS, fans for the 2,000th time. He’s the sixth member of that club
2013 Billy Hamilton enters his 1st MLB game. P-runner. Steals 2nd on 1st pitch, then scores - only run in 1-0 CIN victory
   5. kthejoker Posted: September 03, 2014 at 09:00 AM (#4784391)
Eric Plunk: bad baseball name.
   6. AROM Posted: September 03, 2014 at 09:23 AM (#4784409)
Adam Dunn is the only current threat to Reggie Jackson's alltime strikeout record of 2597. If he follows through on his retirement announcement Reggie will keep the record for a while, despite strikeout rates increasing what, 50%, 80%? from his era to the current game.

On the other side of the ball, Reggie's contemporary Nolan Ryan has a good excuse for why nobody has or will threaten his strikeout record in this strikeout era. Nobody is likely to face over 22000 batters ever again. Though if Aroldis Chapman could do that and keep his effectiveness, he'd strike out over 10000. Mark Buerhle is the active leader in batters faced, almost 10000 fewer than Ryan.

Jackson played a long time, but his career plate appearances are no barrier to someone breaking the record. 24 have more career PA than Reggie, and 12 of them started their careers after his.

Jim Thome gave it a good run, but fell 50 short. If Adam Dunn plays next year he's got a shot to catch Reggie. The next few active names won't last long enough to catch him. Go all the way down to Ryan Howard (1559) - you never know, the Phillies might feel the need to extend his contract again. Mark Reynolds (1395) at age 30 has the talent, but it's hard to see anyone letting him play long enough to do it. Same with BJ Upton.

Justin Upton has the combination of actual baseball playing talent and lots of whiffs and may break the record 12-15 years from now. If he does he might just be a placeholder for Mike Trout, who is on pace for 170-180 this year.
   7. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 03, 2014 at 09:28 AM (#4784413)
1971 Bases-loaded walk-off triple. Manny Mota hit it


Like to see how this played out. BB-Ref says it a triple to center, with Maury Wills at first, Valentine and Sudakis in front of him. George Foster played the whole game in center for the Reds.
   8. tolbuck Posted: September 03, 2014 at 10:23 AM (#4784444)
Willis isn't the only sleeping player to be ejected.

On June 8, 1920 Edd Roush was ejected for sleeping in the outfield. There was an argument in the infield between the managers and the umps, so Roush lay down in the outfield and fell asleep. Once the argument was over Roush's teammates tried to wake him, but it took a little too long and the umps ejected Roush for delaying the game.

I guess you have to be a Hall of Famer to get ejected while sleeping.
   9. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 03, 2014 at 10:45 AM (#4784459)
Is an umpire allowed to change his mind about an ejection?


I seem to remember someone in the last couple of years being ejected after coming out of the dugout following a home run review, but telling the umpire that they weren't coming out to argue about the review, and the ejection being rescinded.
   10. Batman Posted: September 03, 2014 at 10:49 AM (#4784466)
I guess you have to be a Hall of Famer to get ejected while sleeping.
Or to dump spittoons on sleeping players.

1925 Bill Veeck Sr replaces R Maranville as manager after only 8 weeks after he dumped spittoon contents on napping player
   11. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: September 03, 2014 at 10:57 AM (#4784475)
Like to see how this played out. BB-Ref says it a triple to center, with Maury Wills at first, Valentine and Sudakis in front of him. George Foster played the whole game in center for the Reds.


The most logical explanation would be that there was less than two outs (thus giving Mota incentive to run all-out), and it was a fly ball that Wills on first had to hold momentarily on to make sure it wasn't caught.

   12. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: September 03, 2014 at 11:04 AM (#4784483)
1885 Ed Konetchy, 1B, born

He has the most triples of any player not in the Hall of Fame; he's in 15th on the career leaderboard, and everyone else in the top 20 is enshrined in Cooperstown.
   13. Sweatpants Posted: September 03, 2014 at 11:34 AM (#4784505)
Is an umpire allowed to change his mind about an ejection?
In 1999, Rod Carew's suggestion for the Angels to break out of a batting slump was for everyone to use the same bat the first time through the order. Leadoff hitter Orlando Palmeiro was called out on strikes, and, when he left the bat at home plate for Gary Disarcina, Tim Tschida threw him out. Terry Collins came out and explained what was going on, and Palmeiro got to stay in the game.
   14. The District Attorney Posted: September 03, 2014 at 11:58 AM (#4784532)
If [Dunn] follows through on his retirement announcement...
He's repeatedly backed away from it since then, so at this point, I bet he doesn't.

Dunno that it's a piece for discussion per se, but "A Day in the Life of John Jaso's Concussion" is kinda scary.
   15. esseff Posted: September 03, 2014 at 12:22 PM (#4784556)
1901 Joe McGinnity pitches both ends of DH vs Mil, 10-0 win, 6-1 loss for NYG


That should be "for Baltimore."
   16. esseff Posted: September 03, 2014 at 12:30 PM (#4784561)
George Stone is not really a center fielder but had good speed and could probably have faked it. His arm was just awful . . .


That didn't stop Brett Butler, Johnny Damon or Jon Jay from playing CF.
   17. Batman Posted: September 03, 2014 at 12:50 PM (#4784581)
That didn't stop Brett Butler, Johnny Damon or Jon Jay from playing CF.
Or Pete Gray. Gray did have three assists in his 29 games in center.
   18. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 03, 2014 at 01:23 PM (#4784615)
I seem to remember someone in the last couple of years being ejected after coming out of the dugout following a home run review, but telling the umpire that they weren't coming out to argue about the review, and the ejection being rescinded.


Did the ump have to make the reverse of the ejection gesture to "pull him back in" to the park?
   19. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: September 03, 2014 at 05:01 PM (#4784875)
In the Game of 9/2/84, both halves of a mediocre pitching matchup did very well after some early bumps. One of the teams would go on to load the bases with one out in each of the last two regulation innings, failing to score both times; they also decided to use their relief ace (who was the first man out of the bullpen) for five innings. It went just fine... for the first four.
   20. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: September 03, 2014 at 07:06 PM (#4784960)
The Game of 9/2/14 was legitimately historic, albeit in a really obscure and weird way. The road team spent nearly the entire game trailing by a run, despite getting the tying run into scoring position in six consecutive innings (and it generally wasn't just at second with two outs, either). They finally converted on their last such chance, taking the lead in the top of the ninth.

In the well-over-10,000 games in my database, this one has the single largest excitement imbalance in favor of the road team batting. By a lot. Yeah, obscure - but still fun, at least if you weren't rooting for the road team during the game.
   21. Cblau Posted: September 04, 2014 at 09:59 PM (#4785800)
July 8, 1950- Al Rosen was ejected by umpire Hurley who changed his mind and allowed Rosen to remain in the game for Cleveland. Detroit manager Red Rolfe argued with Hurley about this and was ejected (and this one stuck). This according to the book, The View From The Dugout.

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