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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 9-6-2012

Pittsburgh Press, September 6, 1912:

Charley Street, the man who caught the ball dropped from Washington monument and after that never accomplished much else, is batting fourth in Providence, which is higher than he has been in a batting order since he was a kid.

Zing!

Street was a pretty miserable hitter, though. He put up a .208/.273/.256 (66 OPS+) line in 504 MLB games and was a career .243 hitter in the high minors.

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 06, 2012 at 09:07 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 06, 2012 at 09:16 AM (#4228020)
Today's Birthday Team features a Hall of Famer, a Hall of Famer's brother, and a two way player. I had absolutely no idea that Jeffcoat was both a position player and a pitcher.

And, y'know, I don't think I ever appreciated how good Derrek Lee was before today. He got on base, had six 25+ home run seasons, hit for average, had speed, and could pick it in the field. Good ballplayer, but you all already know that. I'm just slow on the uptake.

C: Harry Danning
1B: Derrek Lee
2B: Tommy Thevenow
3B: Mark Teahen
SS: Pat Meares
LF: Oyster Burns
CF: Vince DiMaggio
RF/RP: Hal Jeffcoat

SP: Red Faber
SP: Johnny Lanning
SP: Roy Smith
SP: George Kahler
SP: Harry Perkowski

Manager: Del Bissonette
Fun Name: Shags Horan
   2. AndrewJ Posted: September 06, 2012 at 09:21 AM (#4228022)
And it was 100 years ago today that one of the greatest Deadball-era games ever was played -- Smoky Joe Wood vs. Walter Johnson at Fenway -- one which actually lived up to the pregame hype.
   3. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: September 06, 2012 at 09:27 AM (#4228025)
Also 100 years ago today...

* Reds president Gerry Herrmann says he thinks it's a terrible idea to start a league which would place "second" teams in every big league city, to play home games when the "first" team is on the road.

* Phillies rookie third baseman John Dodge is excellent defensively and looks like a "real star", according to the Pittsburgh Press. Pay no attention to his .120/.156/.130 line in 1912, folks, this guy can play!

* Dodgers pitcher Eddie Stack walked Al Bridwell in the 11th inning "yesterday", the first walk issued by a Brooklyn pitcher in 49.1 innings.

...and, as AndrewJ points out, today is the 100th anniversary of a memorable pitching matchup between two superstars. Dag Nabbit will have more on that.
   4. zack Posted: September 06, 2012 at 09:56 AM (#4228043)
I have no idea who is a HOF on that birthday team. It must be Red Faber I guess.
   5. Chris Fluit Posted: September 06, 2012 at 10:00 AM (#4228047)
Yup, it's Faber.
   6. Dag is a salt water fish in fresh water world Posted: September 06, 2012 at 10:05 AM (#4228052)
...and, as AndrewJ points out, today is the 100th anniversary of a memorable pitching matchup between two superstars. Dag Nabbit will have more on that.

More on that, up at THT.
   7. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: September 06, 2012 at 10:52 AM (#4228119)
Pay no attention to his .120/.156/.130 line in 1912, folks, this guy can play!


He had a huge defensive WAR though and that's why the Phillies were so high on him.
   8. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:22 AM (#4228175)
The Phillies trading John Dodge for Beals Becker looks like quite a steal. Becker went on to have two great seasons with the Phillies at age 26 and 27, then was a major part of them getting to their first World Series. Then ... he played in Kansas City for a decade. I guess he was from Kansas, but we always forget about how many lpayers didn't have great major-league careers back then because they didn't see much reason to play in the "major leagues" rather than Kansas City, or San Francisco, or somewhere.

As for John Dodge, I guess he had The Good Face, or soon-to-be-banned Phillies owner and drunk ex-sportswriter Horace Fogel was planting stories among his newspaper chums to drum up interest for his bums on the trade market.
   9. DL from MN Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:24 AM (#4228181)
I'm going to spam the dugout today and ask for some more MMP voters. We're up to 1976 and instead of growing, the number of voters is shrinking. The requirements aren't hard - fill out a 12 person ballot, tell people how you came to that decision. I'm not sure why there isn't more interest. I don't think the exercise is perfunctory because we keep disagreeing with the MVP voting.
   10. JJ1986 Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:27 AM (#4228187)
What's the deadline? I'll do it if I can have the weekend to mess with stats.
   11. DL from MN Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:34 AM (#4228194)
We vote once a month. I think that's plenty of time to put together a ballot.
   12. esseff Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:53 AM (#4228218)
Street was a pretty miserable hitter, though. He put up a .208/.273/.256 (66 OPS+) line in 504 MLB games and was a career .243 hitter in the high minors.


Then won two pennants and a World Series in five years managing the Cardinals.
   13. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 06, 2012 at 11:58 AM (#4228225)
Oh, anyone can win a World Series managing the Cardinals.*

* Actually out of the 18 people who have managed the Cardinals for more than two years, only 9 have won a World Series. And Rogers Hornsby in his one year as manager.
   14. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 06, 2012 at 12:11 PM (#4228249)
I'm going to spam the dugout today and ask for some more MMP voters. We're up to 1976 and instead of growing, the number of voters is shrinking. The requirements aren't hard - fill out a 12 person ballot, tell people how you came to that decision. I'm not sure why there isn't more interest. I don't think the exercise is perfunctory because we keep disagreeing with the MVP voting.


When does the 1976 vote close?

Birthday catcher Harry Danning spent part of his golden years in Pittsburgh (where some family had settled). He kept out of the house by working some shifts as a cashier at a tennis complex. He was a great guy, but no one ever snarled "walk your bike" at a kid with more authority than Harry.

And he picked up every check.
   15. DL from MN Posted: September 06, 2012 at 12:12 PM (#4228253)
1976 closes in October. The thread's on the hot topics, just click on it.
   16. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: September 06, 2012 at 12:45 PM (#4228303)
Craig Kimbrel has now faced 183 batters this year, and he's struck out 92 of them.

No pitcher has ever struck out over 50% of the batters he's faced over a full season (min: 25 batters faced).

   17. Dag is a salt water fish in fresh water world Posted: September 06, 2012 at 02:19 PM (#4228424)
No pitcher has ever struck out over 50% of the batters he's faced over a full season (min: 25 batters faced).

Currently, the most batters faced in a season where a pitcher struck out a majority of hitters is 21. Francisco Rodriquez fanned 13 of the 21 batters he faced in 2002.

Beyond him, Gerry Hannahs fanned 5 of the 9 he faced in 1978. And Chuck Nieson fanned 5 of the 8 he faced in 1964.

This year Nick Maronde has faced all four batters he's faced - the record, if it holds up
   18. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: September 06, 2012 at 02:46 PM (#4228468)
This year Nick Maronde has faced all four batters he's faced - the record, if it holds up

Pete Richert began his career by striking out the first six batters he faced.
   19. Mike Emeigh Posted: September 06, 2012 at 03:04 PM (#4228482)
This year Nick Maronde has fanned all four batters he's faced


on just 18 pitches, too - of which only four have been called balls (it looks like the hitters have swung at quite a few more that were outside the zone though).

According to BPro, Maronde is the fifth pitcher to debut with a 1/3 IP line, 1 K, and three pitches thrown. The other four are Dan Runzler, Lucas Luetge, Jesse Carlson, and Tim Young - hardly exalted company. Maronde is a lefty with good stuff and movement who has been starting in the minors but who closed for the Florida Gators in college. He's improved his command this year and could very well wind up at the back of the rotation down the road.

-- MWE
   20. JJ1986 Posted: September 06, 2012 at 04:27 PM (#4228580)
There are only five baseball games today. Is that because this was supposed to be the opening of the football season?
   21. JJ1986 Posted: September 06, 2012 at 04:28 PM (#4228584)
The other four are Dan Runzler, Lucas Luetge, Jesse Carlson, and Tim Young


All lefty relievers. I wonder if there's a reason for that.
   22. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 06, 2012 at 04:33 PM (#4228591)
There are only five baseball games today. Is that because this was supposed to be the opening of the football season?

Maybe it was supposed to be a make-up day but there has been no need for make-up days because all the rain normally scheduled for various places in the US has all fallen on the East Coast.
   23. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: September 06, 2012 at 04:57 PM (#4228619)
There are only five baseball games today. Is that because this was supposed to be the opening of the football season?

It's because it was Labor Day on Monday, so everyone played then, which makes Thursday the only available off day this week.
   24. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 06, 2012 at 05:16 PM (#4228635)
Craig Kimbrel has now faced 183 batters this year, and he's struck out 92 of them.


He went 2-for-4 today, so he's still over 50 percent.











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Craig Kimbrel has now faced 183 batters this year, and he's struck out 92 of them.

   25. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: September 06, 2012 at 07:08 PM (#4228744)
Game of the day (yesterday): Padres 4, Dodgers 3. San Diego struck hard against Aaron Harang in the top of the first. Everth Cabrera led off with a single, and Will Venable walked behind him. Chase Headley then doubled, scoring Cabrera, and Venable came home as well on a throwing error by Hanley Ramirez. Having taken third on the same error, Headley was then able to score on Yasmani Grandal's one-out infield single to push the Padre lead to 3.

Clayton Richard worked a scoreless first. Harang gave up singles to Cabrera and Venable in the second, but no runs. Ramirez led off the second with a single, Andre Ethier matched him to put two runners on, and Luis Cruz drove him in with a single of his own. AJ Ellis then flied out to bring Harang to the plate; he bunted, but the Padres turned two, ending the inning. The Dodgers picked up another run in the third, however, once again stringing together three singles (by Mark Ellis, Shane Victorino, and Adrian Gonzalez this time). Matt Kemp hit into an out at home, but Victorino extended the rundown long enough to let the trail runners take second and third. An intentional walk to Ramirez loaded the bases, and Ethier and Cruz both made outs to leave the tying run at third.

Cameron Maybin led off the top of the fourth with a single; neither team put a runner on for the rest of the inning. In the fifth, Grandal walked and Yonder Alonso singled with two outs, but Harang left them on. The bottom of the inning was a near carbon copy of the last two Dodger rallies, with singles by Victorino and Gonzalez, a runner-advancing forceout from Kemp, and a single by Ramirez bringing in a run to tie the game. Ethier popped out, and Nick Vincent replaced Richard on the mound and retired Cruz to end the inning.

Shawn Tolleson worked a perfect sixth for LA, and Vincent matched him in the bottom of the inning. Tolleson walked Venable to start the seventh; Venable then stole second, took third on Headley's single, and scored on Carlos Quentin's sac fly. Grandal hit into a double play to end the inning, but the Padres had recaptured the lead.

In the bottom of the seventh, Brad Boxberger walked Gonzalez with one out. Kemp followed with a long fly to straightaway center, which Cameron Maybin caught with a leap to a wall-plus height, preserving the lead. Joe Thatcher and Dale Thayer combined on a perfect eighth for the Pads. In the ninth, Cabrera and Venable combined for two walks and three steals, putting themselves at second and third, but their teammates couldn't muster a hit to bring them home. Luke Gregerson hit Victorino with a two-out pitch, spurring his manager to put Tommy Layne on the mound to retire Gonzalez and end the game.

This is one of the least-exciting GotD's of the year. I'm pretty sure that qualifies as praising with faint damnation, because this is in no way a bad game; it's just not especially spectacular.
   26. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: September 06, 2012 at 08:30 PM (#4228790)
Game of the day (last year): Blue Jays 1, Red Sox 0 (11). Writing up an extra-inning shutout is always an extra challenge, because I've effectively already told you not just how much scoring occurs, but also exactly when it occurs. That makes it the true test of whether it's not actually the destination, but the journey.

The Jays put runners on the corners against Josh Beckett in the bottom of the first on a Mike McCoy single, a two-out walk by Adam Lind, and a steal of third by McCoy, but Beckett fanned Edwin Encarnacion to end the inning. They put another runner on third in the second on a hit, forceout, steal, and groundout; this time, it was DeWayne Wise who whiffed. Boston's first baserunners against Henderson Alvarez reached in the third, as Marco Scutaro singled and Jacoby Ellsbury doubled with two outs before Dustin Pedroia grounded out to leave them on. The Sox picked up two more baserunners in the fourth on a single by David Ortiz and a walk to Carl Crawford, but Josh Reddick struck out looking to end the frame.

In the bottom of the fourth, Encarnacion singled with one out and stole second with two. Around that time, Beckett's ankle tightened up, and he was pulled from the game in favor of Alfredo Aceves. Encarnacion promptly stole third, and Brett Lawrie walked, but Jose Molina flied out to keep the game scoreless.

Scutaro doubled with one out in the fifth. Up next was Ellsbury, who grounded sharply back to the mound; Alvarez snared it and caught Scutaro leaning off of second. A routine rundown became quite a bit more exciting when Ellsbury broke for second, but Lawrie managed to complete the tag on Scutaro and threw to second just in time to nab Ellsbury as well. The game's next baserunner didn't reach until Lind singled in the bottom of the sixth, and the Sox removed him on a much more conventional double play.

Alvarez was removed after six, and Carlos Villanueva replaced him. He walked Kevin Youkilis to start the seventh, and a one-out single by Reddick put runners on first and second. Jason Varitek's groundout advanced both men into scoring position, but Scutaro's ended the inning. After a walk to Lawrie was canceled out by yet another double play, the Sox tried again in the eighth. Adrian Gonzalez hit a two-out double against Casey Janssen, inducing Toronto to intentionally walk Ortiz. Youkilis struck out looking on four pitches, paying off the strategy.

Aceves worked himself into a jam in the eighth, walking McCoy with one out, watching him steal second, and then hiting Eric Thames with a pitch. Daniel Bard entered in his place and retired Jose Bautisa and Lind to hang both runners out to dry. Reddick doubled with one out in the ninth against Frank Francisco, but his teammates failed to advance him, and Bard set the Jays down in order in the bottom of the inning. In the tenth, Gonzalez drew a two-out walk (and was replaced by pinch runner Mike Aviles, which is an odd decision for a runner on first with two outs). Ortiz grounded out to make it a moot point. Toronto also used a pinch runner in the inning after Jose Molina greeted Jonathan Papelbon with a single. Since it was with no outs and came in order to replace Molina, who is both a less important player and much slower than Gonzalez (and just about everyone else), this makes a bit more sense. Chris Woodward took second on an errant pickoff throw with one out, then advanced to third when Papelbon walked both Mark Teahen and (with two out) Bautista. But the Sox closer rallied to ring up Lind on three pitches to end the inning.

Shawn Camp threw a perfect eleventh, and Dan Wheeler threw two thirds of one. The third batter of the inning was Lawrie, who crushed Wheeler's third pitch of the at bat well over the center field wall for a walkoff homer.

They lost anyway, but you have to be impressed by the pre-Wheeler Sox pen. 6.1 innings and only 2 hits allowed; 5 walks, but 9 strikeouts, and obviously no runs. And they got that production out of only three pitchers.

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