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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 9-6-2018

Harrisburg Telegraph, September 6, 1918:

“Stuffy” McInnis and “Babe” Ruth Heroes at World Series Opening

With runners on first and second base in the fourth inning of the first of the world series games at Chicago, “Stuffy” McInnis rapped a line single to left field and Dave Shean sped across the plate with the only run of the contest…It was the first time a 1 to 0 score has decided a world’s series game since 1905…

The battle was rated a great triumph for “Babe” Ruth, who outpitched another famous southpaw, Jim Vaughn, particularly by his ability to prevent the Cubs from hitting at the essential moment.

Advantage Red Sox after one game. Game Two took place 100 years ago today, with Boston’s Bullet Joe Bush facing Chicago’s Lefty Tyler.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 10:23 AM | 116 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 10:25 AM (#5739631)
A decent Birthday Team today, but the pitching staff is a bit thin. Just be careful - the owner might be trying to move September 6 to Worcester.

C: Harry Danning (15.54 WAR)
1B: Derrek Lee (34.57 WAR)
2B: Pat Meares (4.78 WAR)
3B: Mark Teahen (2.55 WAR)
SS: Oyster Burns (25.78 WAR)
LF/SP: Hal Jeffcoat (7.75 WAR)
CF: Vince DiMaggio (17.1 WAR)
RF: Mitch Moreland (7.78 WAR)

SP: Red Faber (64.95 WAR)
SP: Johnny Lanning (8.86 WAR)
SP: Harry Perkowski (4.72 WAR)
SP: George Kahler (3.82 WAR)
RP: Jerry Blevins (6.6 WAR)

Manager: Jumbo Latham
Owner: Larry Lucchino
-5.31 career WAR: Tommy Thevenow (-5.31 WAR)
LF when Jeffcoat pitches: Alex Escobar (1.46 WAR)
Bench Bat: Del Bissonette (8.62 WAR)
Fun names: Socrates Brito, Vallie Eaves, Shags Horan, George Schmees
Writer: Bill Plaschke
   2. PreservedFish Posted: September 06, 2018 at 10:42 AM (#5739643)
Why do you know Bill Plaschke's birthday?
   3. Batman Posted: September 06, 2018 at 10:48 AM (#5739646)
If you don't put some teahen and a jeffcoat on your oyster burns, you end up with a red faber.
   4. BDC Posted: September 06, 2018 at 10:49 AM (#5739648)
Dang, the second time in two days I run across the name "Oyster Burns." Yesterday I was paging through long-forgotten RBI champs. Burns led the 1890 National League in RBI, though nobody knew it at the time. He was a very fair hitter in his 20s (late 1880s-early 1890s) but then out of pro baseball by his early 30s. From Wikipedia:

Burns, nicknamed "Oyster" because he sold shellfish in the off-season, was described as a "loudmouth" and having "an irritating voice and personality." … In 1893, between games of a doubleheader, a teammate of Burns, Tom Daly, was sleeping in center field when Burns stabbed Daly with a penknife.
   5. Batman Posted: September 06, 2018 at 10:52 AM (#5739652)
I'm so tired of players like Oyster Burns and Albert Belle stabbing their teammates during doubleheaders.
   6. BDC Posted: September 06, 2018 at 10:56 AM (#5739659)
Let me also list some box-score-line records, or I will never get through them all. These are for various 4-for-4 days. Only one seems to me to make an interesting trivia question (in bold). The record-holders are all fairly prominent folk, but also kinda random. Most times with the exact line ab/r/h/bi, regular season since 1908:

4 2 4 3 : done three times by Joe Tinker, George Ruth, George Scott, and Paul O'Neill

4 2 4 4 : done four times by Rafael Palmeiro, and nobody else has done it more than twice

4 2 4 5 : done twice by Joe Jackson, Kirk Gibson, Edgar Renteria, and Vladimir Guerrero

4 2 4 6 : Chuck Klein did this twice

4 2 4 7 : eight players did it once, latest being Garret Anderson in 2002

4 2 4 8 : seven did it once, latest was Mike Cameron in '01

4 2 4 9 : Only one player did this. Here's your clue: I have already named him. (And it was not Oyster Burns.) He reached 4249 with a 2-run homer, a 2-run double, a SF, a 3-run homer, and an RBI single. His first five RBI came off a Hall of Fame pitcher; for WAG extra credit, name the pitcher
   7. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 10:57 AM (#5739661)
Why do you know Bill Plaschke's birthday?
I hold an annual Plaschke Party.

Also, it's on the BBRef wiki.
   8. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 10:59 AM (#5739662)
If you don't put some teahen and a jeffcoat on your oyster burns, you end up with a red faber.
And if you don't treat that quickly, with antibiotics, you wind up with an extremely painful jumbo latham.
   9. PreservedFish Posted: September 06, 2018 at 10:59 AM (#5739663)
Did it occur before or after he was stabbed with a penknife?
   10. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:01 AM (#5739669)
4 2 4 9 - Vlad the Impaler? WAG - Randy Johnson
   11. BDC Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:09 AM (#5739684)
Vlad is correct! The game was on 2 June 2004, the pitcher was not Johnson.
   12. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:13 AM (#5739689)
Vlad is correct! The game was on 2 June 2004, the pitcher was not Johnson.

Pedro Martinez for the SP?
   13. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:16 AM (#5739694)
A few weeks back, Dag ran a quiz on homer leaders for players who spent their entire career with a single franchise. So I decided to look to see which pitchers owned a similar distinction for each franchise.

Here are their victory totals.

417 –
268 –
266 –
260 –
253 –
251 –
236 –
223 –
209 –
194 –
171 –
168 –
166 –
158 –
123 –
107 –
100 –
99 –
94 –
91 –
87 –
67 –
53 –
50 –
46 –
41 –
38 –
31 –
28 – Tie
18* –

* There's a chance he's not the franchise record holder, as no one in the club's Top 50 spent his entire career there.
   14. BDC Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:17 AM (#5739696)
And Pedro Martinez was the pitcher. The Angels beat the Red Sox 10-7. Mike Timlin relieved Martinez with two on base, and Guerrero greeted him with the 3-run homer.
   15. oscar madisox Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:20 AM (#5739703)
I'll start with the easy one. Walter Johnson 417.
   16. Batman Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:20 AM (#5739705)
So I decided to look to see which pitchers owned a similar distinction for each franchise.
Walter Johnson and Jim Palmer are probably the top two or maybe 1 and 3. Is birthday boy Red Faber on the list?
   17. oscar madisox Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:21 AM (#5739706)
Also JR Richard had 107 wins for the Astros.

   18. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:21 AM (#5739707)
Whitey Ford has got to be on there. Not sure his exact win total.
   19. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:22 AM (#5739708)
Ted Lyons also?
   20. Batman Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:22 AM (#5739710)
Maybe Ted Lyons beat out Faber. The White Sox have a lot more depth at this than in HRs.
   21. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:25 AM (#5739713)
Johnson and Palmer are 1 and 2.
Richard, Ford and Lyons are also there. Lyons tops Faber.
   22. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:26 AM (#5739715)
The White Sox have a lot more depth at this than in HRs.


Unlike the 2018 season, the AL Central is the class of the field in this quiz.
   23. caspian88 Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:27 AM (#5739717)
Bob Gibson, Bob Feller
   24. oscar madisox Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:27 AM (#5739720)
Some more guesses.

Don Drysdale, Dodgers
DeGrom?, Mets
Hooks Dauss, Tigers
Guidry, Yanks

Oh, almost forgot, Bob Gibson, Cards
   25. crict Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:28 AM (#5739721)
We had already established that Steve Rogers is the Expos/Nats leader. Is he in the 160s maybe?

A few guesses:

Teddy Higuera for the Brewers
Brad Radke for the Twins
Brandon Webb for the Dbacks
   26. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:28 AM (#5739723)
417 – Walter Johnson, MIN (WSA), 417-279 (Franchise Leader)
268 – Jim Palmer, BAL, 268-152 (Franchise Leader)
266 –
260 – Ted Lyons, CWA, 260-230 (Franchise Leader)
253 –
251 –
236 – Whitey Ford, NYA, 236-106 (Franchise Leader)
223 –
209 –
194 –
171 –
168 –
166 –
158 –
123 –
107 – J.R. Richard, HOU, 107-71
100 –
99 –
94 –
91 –
87 –
67 –
53 –
50 –
46 –
41 –
38 –
31 –
28 – Tie
18 –
   27. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:28 AM (#5739724)
Dave Stieb?
   28. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:30 AM (#5739726)
Gibson, Drysdale, deGrom, Dauss, Rogers, Higuera and Webb are correct. Radke played for the same franchise that gave us Walter Johnson.
   29. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:30 AM (#5739727)

Dave Stieb?


Stieb played a handful of games with the White Sox.
   30. oscar madisox Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:31 AM (#5739728)
I imagine the Royals leader is either Splittorf or Leonard but for the life of me I don't know who had more wins.
   31. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:32 AM (#5739732)
Bob Feller - 266
   32. BDC Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:33 AM (#5739734)
I've been in Texas for 2/3 of the Rangers' history and I have no idea who their top Texas-only winning pitcher might be. I'd pretty much guess them for the guy with 18 who might not even be it, whoever he is. They're well down the list in any event.
   33. Batman Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:35 AM (#5739738)
The Seattle Pilots-only (not including the Milwaukee part) leader in wins is Miguel Fuentes with 1. The HR leader is nobody.

The Rangers leader is wearing a Phillies cap on his bb-ref page.
   34. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:35 AM (#5739739)
Feller and Split are correct.


417 – Walter Johnson, MIN (WSA), 417-279 (Franchise Leader)
268 – Jim Palmer, BAL, 268-152 (Franchise Leader)
266 – Bob Feller, CLE 266-162 (Franchise Leader)
260 – Ted Lyons, CWA, 260-230 (Franchise Leader)
253 –
251 – Bob Gibson, SLN, 251-174
236 – Whitey Ford, NYA, 236-106 (Franchise Leader)
223 – Hooks Dauss, DET, 223-182 (Franchise Leader)
209 – Don Drysdale, LAD, 209-166 (Franchise Leader)
194 –
171 –
168 –
166 – Paul Splittorff, KCR, 166-143 (Franchise Leader)
158 – Steve Rogers, WSN (MON), 158-152 (Franchise Leader)
123 –
107 – J.R. Richard, HOU, 107-71
100 –
99 –
94 – Teddy Higuera, MIL, 94-64
91 –
87 – Brandon Webb, ARI, 87-62
67 –
53 –
50 –
46 –
41 –
38 –
31 –
28 – Tie
18 –
   35. PreservedFish Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:35 AM (#5739740)
Blake Snell

Jon Gray

I like guessing the bereft franchises.
   36. oscar madisox Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:35 AM (#5739741)
Is it possible that Brett Snell is the Rays leader? Maybe he's one of the guys down at the bottom.
   37. Nasty Nate Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:35 AM (#5739742)
It can't be Bob Stanley for the Red Sox, can it?
   38. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:35 AM (#5739743)
I'd pretty much guess them for the guy with 18 who might not even be it, whoever he is.


The club with 18 is not the Rangers.
   39. oscar madisox Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:36 AM (#5739744)
Coke to Fish
   40. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:36 AM (#5739745)
Is it possible that Brett Snell is the Rays leader? Maybe he's one of the guys down at the bottom.


Blake Snell is tied for the Rays' lead with 28. Still one more to go.

Gray is also correct.
   41. PreservedFish Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:36 AM (#5739747)
How about Jose Fernandez?
   42. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:38 AM (#5739752)
Fernandez is correct.
   43. BDC Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:41 AM (#5739754)
I looked up the Ranger, and I should have known him. I didn't think of him because the Rangers acquired him in a pretty big trade, and then let him go eventually in another pretty big trade: but he never played for the club they got him from or the club they sent him to. Weird.
   44. crict Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:41 AM (#5739755)
Mario Soto for the Reds?
   45. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:41 AM (#5739756)
417 – Walter Johnson, MIN (WSA), 417-279 (Franchise Leader)
268 – Jim Palmer, BAL, 268-152 (Franchise Leader)
266 – Bob Feller, CLE, 266-162
260 – Ted Lyons, CWA, 260-230 (Franchise Leader)
253 –
251 – Bob Gibson, SLN, 251-174
236 – Whitey Ford, NYA, 236-106 (Franchise Leader)
223 – Hooks Dauss, DET, 223-182 (Franchise Leader)
209 – Don Drysdale, LAD, 209-166 (Franchise Leader)
194 –
171 –
168 –
166 – Paul Splittorff, KCR, 166-143
158– Steve Rogers, WSN (MON), 158-152 (Franchise Leader)
123 –
107 – J.R. Richard, HOU, 107-71
100 –
99 –
94 – Teddy Higuera, MIL, 94-64
91 –
87 – Brandon Webb, ARI, 87-62
67 –
53 –
50 –
46 –
41 –
38 – Jose Fernandez, MIA, 38-17
31 – Jon Gray, COL, 31-23
28 – Blake Snell, TB, 28-20 and
18 –
   46. PreservedFish Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:41 AM (#5739757)
Felix Hernandez
   47. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:42 AM (#5739758)
Mario Soto is correct.

The Rangers leader is wearing a Phillies cap on his bb-ref page.


Yes he is. Sent there but never played for them.
   48. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:42 AM (#5739759)
The King is correct.
   49. oscar madisox Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:43 AM (#5739762)
Carl Hubbell
   50. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:43 AM (#5739763)

Carl Hubbell


Yes. The last of the 200-game winners on our list.
   51. crict Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:44 AM (#5739764)
Marcus Stroman for the Jays?
   52. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:45 AM (#5739767)
Stroman is correct.
   53. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 11:52 AM (#5739781)
Here are some clues for the unguessed.

417 – Walter Johnson, MIN (WSA), 417-279 (Franchise Leader)
268 – Jim Palmer, BAL, 268-152 (Franchise Leader)
266 – Bob Feller, CLE, 266-162 (Franchise Leader)
260 – Ted Lyons, CWA, 260-230 (Franchise Leader)
253 – Carl Hubbell, SFG (NYG), 253-154
251 – Bob Gibson, SLN, 251-174 (Franchise Leader)
236 – Whitey Ford, NYA, 236-106 (Franchise Leader)
223 – Hooks Dauss, DET, 223-182 (Franchise Leader)
209 – Don Drysdale, LAD, 209-166 (Franchise Leader)
194 – Led the NL in winning percentage three times in the 1900s
171 – Easily the best player to play his entire career for this club

168 – Felix Hernandez, SEA 168-127 (Franchise Leader)
166 – Paul Splittorff, KCR, 166-143 (Franchise Leader)
158– Steve Rogers, WSN (MON), 158-152 (Franchise Leader)
123 – Lefthander who once led the AL in wins
107 – J.R. Richard, HOU, 107-71
100 – Mario Soto, CIN, 100-92
99 – Managed his 99 wins in just four seasons in the 1880s
94 – Teddy Higuera, MIL, 94-64
91 – Fell off the cliff in his Age 28 season, was done after 29.
87 – Brandon Webb, ARI, 87-62
67 – Active pitcher for original franchise

53 – Jacob deGrom, NYM, 53-40
50 – As mentioned, was traded but never played for acquiring team
46 – Only reliever on the list
41 – Marcus Stroman, TOR, 41-34
38 – Jose Fernandez, MIA, 38-17
31 – Jon Gray, COL, 31-23
28 – Blake Snell, TB, 28-20 and Retired Ray played on club's first good team
18 – Would be in his club’s Top 50 by now if he was having a better year

   54. crict Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:02 PM (#5739794)
Julio Teheran for the Braves
   55. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:08 PM (#5739802)
Sam Leever, 194
   56. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:19 PM (#5739818)
91 – Fell off the cliff in his Age 28 season, was done after 29.

Brandon Webb?
87 – Brandon Webb, ARI, 87-62

OK, never mind
   57. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:23 PM (#5739825)
Wait, you don't have the Phillies on there yet.

None of those clues would describe Chris Short... Robin Roberts I know pitched for the Orioles... I'll have to think about this.

28 – Retired Ray played on club's first good team

I think Andy Sonnanstine managed the rare distinction of spending a few years with the Rays and never be traded elsewhere. Unless one of those guys like Ryan Rupe or Bryan Rekar hung on until 2008.
   58. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:23 PM (#5739826)
My annual homage to Harry Danning: he had family in Pittsburgh, and spent a couple of his later years there. He kept busy by cashiering at a local rec center, where he perfected the art of telling kids to walk their bikes. He was exactly what you'd expect a Giants catcher of the 30s to be - "gruff" doesn't go far enough - but he told a great dirty joke, was wonderful to his friends, drove a Caddy, and grabbed every check that came near him.

Harry was the original "Harry the Horse," and deservedly so:


https://sabr.org/sites/default/files/DanningHarry.jpg.png[/img]]Harry the Horse
   59. Ziggy's screen name Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:25 PM (#5739830)
Three Finger Brown?
   60. Ziggy's screen name Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:26 PM (#5739834)
Also:

4 2 4 3 : done three times by Joe Tinker, George Ruth


It's fun to see these two sharing a batting record.
   61. JJ1986 Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:27 PM (#5739835)
Jeff Niemann?
   62. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:28 PM (#5739840)
99 – Managed his 99 wins in just four seasons in the 1880s


This is probably the guy for the Phillies. I can't remember his name but he died young of TB or typhoid.
   63. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:28 PM (#5739841)
Leever, Teheran and Sonanstine are correct.
   64. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:30 PM (#5739845)
Six remain - three original franchises (Boston, Chicago NL and Philly) and three expansion (Tex, LAA and San Diego).

   65. crict Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:31 PM (#5739847)
Apparently there's a guy that won 40 for the Rays, and one that won 19 for the club listed as having the leader at 18.
   66. Ziggy's screen name Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:35 PM (#5739858)
Hold on. Isn't Gibson's 1.12 ERA in 1968 supposed to be some kind of record? 'Cause I was just checking out Brown (to see why my guess was wrong - answer: Federal League play) and he posted a 1.04 ERA in 1906. It's not like Gibson even has the modern record, as "modern" is post 1900. And ol' Dutch Leonard did even better for the BOS in 1914. Or am I just misremembering things?
   67. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:38 PM (#5739863)
Apparently there's a guy that won 40 for the Rays, and one that won 19 for the club listed as having the leader at 18.


You are correct. It is Niemann. My apologies.

The 19, I don't know. I didn't know how to find who sat outside the Top 50, and 50th place on the all-time list had 20 wins.


417 – Walter Johnson, MIN (WSA), 417-279 (Franchise Leader)
268 – Jim Palmer, BAL, 268-152 (Franchise Leader)
266 – Bob Feller, CLE, 266-162
260 – Ted Lyons, CWA, 260-230 (Franchise Leader)
253 – Carl Hubbell, SFG (NYG), 253-154
251 – Bob Gibson, SLN, 251-174
236 – Whitey Ford, NYA, 236-106 (Franchise Leader)
223 – Hooks Dauss, DET, 223-182 (Franchise Leader)
209 – Don Drysdale, LAD, 209-166 (Franchise Leader)
194 – Sam Leever, PIT, 194-100
171 – Easily the best player to play his entire career for this club
168 – Felix Hernandez, SEA 168-127
166 – Paul Splittorff, KCR, 166-143
158– Steve Rogers, WSN (MON), 158-152 (Franchise Leader)
123 – Lefthander who once led the AL in wins
107 – J.R. Richard, HOU, 107-71
100 – Mario Soto, CIN, 100-92
99 – Managed his 99 wins in just four seasons in the 1880s
94 – Teddy Higuera, MIL, 94-64
91 – Fell off the cliff in his Age 28 season, was done after 29.
87 – Brandon Webb, ARI, 87-62
67 – Julio Teheran, ATL, 67-60
53 – Jacob deGrom, NYM, 53-40
50 – As mentioned, was traded but never played for acquiring team
46 – Only reliever on the list
41 – Marcus Stroman, TOR, 41-34
Correction - 40 – Jeff Niemann, TB, 40-26
38 – Jose Fernandez, MIA, 38-17
31 – Jon Gray, COL, 31-23
18 – Would be in his club’s Top 50 by now if he was having a better year

Oh, and it's four original clubs left (A's).


   68. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:40 PM (#5739868)
123 - Lefty Gomez?

edit: Nope, he had 189, and pitched one game for the Senators.
   69. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:43 PM (#5739870)
edit: Nope, he had 189, and pitched one game for the Senators.


And you already got Whitey.

   70. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:44 PM (#5739871)
And you already got Whitey.

That too :-)
   71. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:44 PM (#5739874)
A's: Chief Bender? Eddie Plank?
   72. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:49 PM (#5739881)
A's: Chief Bender? Eddie Plank?


Bender and Plank both played elsewhere.
   73. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:54 PM (#5739891)
Advantage Red Sox after one game. Game Two took place 100 years ago today, with Boston’s Bullet Joe Bush facing Chicago’s Lefty Tyler.


Anybody besides me note the sweet irony that the Cubs' starting 1B was Fred Merkle?
   74. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:55 PM (#5739895)
Re No. 58, my Harry Danning link didn't work because I'm incompetent with the phone:

Harry the Horse
   75. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:56 PM (#5739896)
I'm going to guess that a pitcher with 171 wins would not be clearly better than Ted Williams, so 123 must be the Red Sox. The clue sounds like Mel Parnell.
   76. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 12:58 PM (#5739899)
Mel Parnell is correct at 123.

   77. PreservedFish Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:00 PM (#5739903)
18 – Would be in his club’s Top 50 by now if he was having a better year


As this is likely a Padre or Angel, I'll guess Tyson Ross or Garrett Richards.
   78. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:04 PM (#5739907)
As this is likely a Padre or Angel, I'll guess Tyson Ross or Garrett Richards.


The 18 is a Padre (as is the 19, but crict will have to provide that answer). It is not Ross, because he's not even a Padre any longer (and played elsewhere before SD).

Richards could become the Angels leader before the season is out.
   79. PreservedFish Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:12 PM (#5739917)
I may have already exhausted my personal knowledge of Padres starting pitchers.
   80. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:17 PM (#5739928)

I may have already exhausted my personal knowledge of Padres starting pitchers.


What about Padres starting pitchers who spent part of the season on the DL and part of the season in El Paso?
   81. crict Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:17 PM (#5739930)
I don't think anybody would remember the guy with 19 for the Padres. With the team 1969-1974, career record of 19-28, never more than 6 wins in season. It's Mike Corkins.

His only apparent claim to fame is that he was mentioned in Ball Four: "We beat San Diego 9-2 tonight and I felt sort of sorry for Mike Corkins, their starting pitcher. It was his first start in the majors and on his very first pitch Joe Morgan hit a triple to right field, and on his second pitch Jesus Alou hit another one to right-center. His third pitch was wild and Alou scored. So on three pitches the kid had given up two runs. And Marty Martinez yelled out to him: 'Welcome to the National League. Kid.'"
   82. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:41 PM (#5739953)
Richards could become the Angels leader before the season is out.


So the one with 50 is from the Rangers, and the reliever with 46 is from the Angels...

I got nothing.
   83. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:44 PM (#5739957)
Troy Percival for the Angels RP?
   84. PreservedFish Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:45 PM (#5739959)
Troy Percival? I recall him on another team.
   85. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:47 PM (#5739965)
It's not Percival, but one of his bullpen mates. The very rare middle reliever who spent 10 years with a single franchise.
   86. Nasty Nate Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:50 PM (#5739968)
Scot Shields?
   87. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:55 PM (#5739972)
It's not Percival, but one of his bullpen mates. The very rare middle reliever who spent 10 years with a single franchise.

I can picture the guy. Got busted for roids, right?
   88. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:55 PM (#5739973)
It is Single T Shields.
   89. SoSH U at work Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:57 PM (#5739976)
I can picture the guy. Got busted for roids, right?


I think you're thinking of Brendan Donnelly, another member of the Angels' World Series pen. He was named in the Mitchell Report.

   90. oscar madisox Posted: September 06, 2018 at 01:57 PM (#5739977)
Didn't Mike Corkins give up Willie Mays' 600th homer?

Checks .... Yes he did!
   91. crict Posted: September 06, 2018 at 02:07 PM (#5739991)
One more correction, there are two pitchers tied atop the Jays list, with 51. One was a starter in the 80s, from Venezuela. The other was a first round pick that was maligned by the Toronto press because the guy drafted immediately after him had more success.
   92. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 06, 2018 at 02:12 PM (#5740000)
One more correction, there are two pitchers tied atop the Jays list, with 51. One was a starter in the 80s, from Venezuela.

Luis Leal.

Why yes, I was sorting through several thousand 1982 Donruss cards last night. Why do you ask?
   93. crict Posted: September 06, 2018 at 02:14 PM (#5740005)
Leal is correct.
   94. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: September 06, 2018 at 02:14 PM (#5740006)
Luis Leal is the 80s starter for the Blue Jays. Remembered him instantly when you said that.

Edit: Too slow!
   95. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: September 06, 2018 at 02:15 PM (#5740009)
And the other one... went off a cliff Brandon Webb style, with the Blue Jays: Ricky Romero?
   96. crict Posted: September 06, 2018 at 02:21 PM (#5740017)
Romero it is. Apparently he still hopes to come back.
   97. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: September 06, 2018 at 02:26 PM (#5740024)
I looked up the 99, it is indeed the Phillies guy who could have been a legend but died young of typhoid. Charlie Ferguson

So these two are the Cubs and the A's.
171 – Easily the best player to play his entire career for this club
91 – Fell off the cliff in his Age 28 season, was done after 29.
   98. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: September 06, 2018 at 02:29 PM (#5740029)
BOX - Mel Parnell

CHC - Fred Goldsmith?
   99. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: September 06, 2018 at 02:31 PM (#5740032)
CHC - Ed Reulbach

PHI -- That guy who died really young in the 1880s. Ferguson? Charlie Ferguson?
   100. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: September 06, 2018 at 02:32 PM (#5740033)
A's: Scott Perry?

A's: Eddie Rommel?
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