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Puckett’s Toledo number turns up in Maumee basement

The great Toledo baseball mystery has been solved.

Hall of Famer Kirby Puckett indeed wore No. 28 during his time with the Mud Hens, a reader armed with proof confirmed Friday.

The Toledo Mud Hens roster card from an April 29, 1984 game against the Maine Guides at the Lucas County Recreation Center.

With the Hens planning to hold a Puckett bobblehead night this season, the search for Puckett’s number touched off an exhaustive yet inconclusive quest that entangled team officials, historians, and fans.

But for Maumee resident Guy Lammers, the answer proved just a trip to the basement away. Upon reading our column, he found the cardboard box labeled, “Programs and Scorecards,” and unearthed the evidence.

Inside were rosters from Puckett’s cameo here in 1984, along with scorebooks kept by his wife, Linda Marckel. Both verified our numeric suspicions.

“My wife is very organized, and she doesn’t throw away anything,” said Lammers, a 59-year-old research manager for a software company. “Linda knew where the boxes were and went right to it. Didn’t take longer than 10 minutes.”

Some backstory: the club needed to know what number Puckett wore as a Mud Hen and they had no record thereof.  So the public was invoked.

This is perhaps the definition of the trough of the baseball news cycle :-D

BDC Posted: January 22, 2018 at 11:23 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: crowdsourcing, kirby puckett, slow news day, toledo mud hens, trivia, uniforms

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   1. eddieot Posted: January 22, 2018 at 12:07 PM (#5610888)
Crowd sourcing 101
   2. jmurph Posted: January 22, 2018 at 03:28 PM (#5611150)
Puckett’s Toledo number turns up in Maumee basement

Alright who has a good mommy's/mother's basement joke here?
   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 22, 2018 at 03:33 PM (#5611159)
The Toledo Mud Hens roster card from an April 29, 1984 game against the Maine Guides at the Lucas County Recreation Center.

Yeesh. If you absolutely have to do the one-sentence paragraph thing, at least make it an actual sentence.

EDIT: Nevermind - it was a caption, but the photo didn't get excerpted. I retract my yeeshery.
   4. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 22, 2018 at 03:35 PM (#5611165)
This is perhaps the definition of the trough of the baseball news cycle :-D

This may be the least interesting story ever.
   5. BDC Posted: January 22, 2018 at 03:36 PM (#5611166)
Sorry, yes, I should’ve clipped out the caption ...
   6. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 22, 2018 at 03:36 PM (#5611167)
Inside were rosters from Puckett’s cameo here in 1984, along with scorebooks kept by his wife, Linda Marckel.


Puckett was married to Linda Marckel? Scandal!
   7. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 22, 2018 at 04:19 PM (#5611217)
Puckett was married to Linda Marckel? Scandal!


On the bright side, at least he didn't beat that one.
   8. Batman Posted: January 22, 2018 at 04:21 PM (#5611221)
I read "Puckett's Toledo number" as a euphemism for a victim of his. I'm glad it's about baseball.
   9. vortex of dissipation Posted: January 22, 2018 at 09:16 PM (#5611402)
Is Kirby Puckett's public image these days something that a team would feel comfortable endorsing by doing a promotion of this sort? It certainly wouldn't be a promotion that would attract me.
   10. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: January 23, 2018 at 08:09 AM (#5611527)
I'd think the average Toledoan's knowledge of Kirby Puckett is something like "fun player, won a World Series or two, maybe in the Hall of Fame, and spent time with the Mud Hens". The creepy/gross off-field stuff wouldn't be on their radar.

Of course, the people who run the club would probably know about it. Maybe they're hoping nobody notices.
   11. gef the talking mongoose, amorphous lefty blob Posted: January 23, 2018 at 09:43 AM (#5611574)
Undoubtedly the biggest -- only? -- thing to come out of Maumee since the Necros.
   12. Rally Posted: January 23, 2018 at 10:37 AM (#5611615)
Puckett hit .382 with the 1982 Elizabethtown Twins. In 1983 he hit .314 with 48 steals and 97 RBI for the Visalia Oaks. He only played 21 games for the Mud Hens, hitting a career low .263 and it was an empty average, .619 OPS. Then he was called up to the Twins and finished 3rd in rookie of the year voting.

Toledo is certainly the least memorable of Puckett's four professional teams. The only reason people from Toledo would care is for what he did in other places.
   13. tolbuck Posted: January 23, 2018 at 04:00 PM (#5611975)

Toledo is certainly the least memorable of Puckett's four professional teams. The only reason people from Toledo would care is for what he did in other places.


Exactly. Part of the reason is the history of baseball in Toledo is quite awful. Most years they put out terrible, uncompetitive teams on the field. They spent a chunk of the 30s and 40s affiliated with the Browns. They broke multiple owners in the AA days. The IL days are a little better, but that isn't a high bar. In the late 70s and early 80s they were affiliated with the Twins. The Twins had a strong system at the time, but they had a habit of promoting their top prospects from AA to the majors. Puckett was one of the few top prospects the Twins had at the time that spent any time in Toledo. They have spent the past 30 years affiliated with the Tigers, who have had a bottom tier minor league system most of that time. The Hens have 7 winning seasons in the past 30 years. In comparison the Tribe's AAA affiliates have won 7 championships in the same time span. Point is there isn't much to celebrate here, so they will attach themselves to anyone who was successful who spent any time here. Heck, the franchise still sends out Jamie Farr for promotional purposes, and M*A*S*H went off the air 35 years ago.
   14. gef the talking mongoose, amorphous lefty blob Posted: January 23, 2018 at 04:11 PM (#5611994)
Puckett was married to Linda Marckel? Scandal!


On the bright side, at least he didn't beat that one.


Assumes facts not in evidence.
   15. RMc's Unenviable Situation Posted: January 24, 2018 at 09:11 AM (#5612251)
Maumee...why does everybody have a bomb...?
   16. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: January 24, 2018 at 10:38 AM (#5612303)
Heck, the franchise still sends out Jamie Farr for promotional purposes, and M*A*S*H went off the air 35 years ago.
It's probably a super low-effort booking for them. "Mr. Farr, would you like to come to a game for free next time you're in town?" "Sure."

When I was a student at Bowling Green, he'd occasionally make an appearance on campus, mostly for stuff with the Popular Culture department. I always got the impression that getting Jamie Farr to show up to an event in Northwest Ohio was as easy as asking nicely and maybe buying him dinner. (Which is not meant as a criticism of him. In my experiences with him, he seemed like an extremely nice man.)
   17. RMc's Unenviable Situation Posted: January 24, 2018 at 07:56 PM (#5612920)
The Hens did win back-to-back IL titles in 2005-06, but there was nobody on those teams that contributed the contending Tigers teams of subsequent years, except Curtis Granderson and maybe Joel Zumaya, both of whom played (horribly) in the '06 World Series. No, those teams (like all modern AAA teams) were filled with guys like Chris Shelton and Mike Hesseman and Don Kelly, the usual 4A types who wait around for somebody on the big-league roster to drop dead.
   18. GGC Posted: January 25, 2018 at 06:31 AM (#5613032)
13 is an interesting post. So are some of the others. I'm glad that I finally clicked on this thread.

Isn't Zumaya the pitcher who's career was derailed by video games?
   19. Batman Posted: January 25, 2018 at 10:23 AM (#5613111)
It's probably a super low-effort booking for them. "Mr. Farr, would you like to come to a game for free next time you're in town?" "Sure."
"Mr. Farr, would you like to-" (the booker suddenly hears Jamie Farr's voice behind him) "Does it come with a free hot dog?"

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