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Wednesday, June 25, 2014

Purdy: Why Tim Lincecum Is Our Elvis

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The Bay Area needs no new summer theme park thrill rides. It still has Tim Lincecum.

The Giants’ pitcher, who has been spectacularly up and down in terms of success over the past few seasons, was at the very peak of his freaky-geeky powers Wednesday at AT&T Park.

His fastball worked. His off-speed stuff worked. His hipster-hurler mojo worked, like, totally. And after nine innings of all that, Lincecum had thrown a no-hitter against the San Diego Padres – his second no-hitter against them in the past two seasons.

And what about all of Lincecum’s games between those two no-hitters? In those 28 starts, Lincecum allowed 164 hits in 173 1/3 innings of pitching – with 11 victories and 10 defeats.

This explains why, every time he takes the mound, Lincecum is an adventure. None of us ever knows exactly what we’re going to get. Although clearly, the man needs to face the Padres more often. And not just because they are statistically the weakest hitting team in the Major Leagues. Lincecum also banged out two hits himself Wednesday against San Diego pitching.

... As it is, he merely joins the short list of 28 pitchers with two or more no-hitters. Oddly, that list includes far more players who are not in the Hall of Fame (Johnny Vander Meer, Don Wilson, Jim Maloney, et al) as those who are. However, if Lincecum ever pitches a third no-hitter, he will join the enormously small club of legends from the modern era who’ve done so – Bob Feller, Sandy Koufax and Nolan Ryan. With Lincecum’s other credentials as a two-time Cy Young winner and two-time World Series champ, a third no-hitter would surely have him sniffing Cooperstown.

So when does he face the Padres again?

Mike Krukow, the former Giants pitcher and current broadcaster, has called Lincecum “a gift to the Bay Area.” Wednesday, he was the gift that kept on giving us his patented package of you-never-know-what-will-happen-next. It’s why people will continue to line up and ride the Lincecum ride. You never want to miss what might be around the next curve.

Repoz Posted: June 25, 2014 at 10:49 PM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. tshipman Posted: June 26, 2014 at 12:14 AM (#4735940)
Today in misleading stats!

Lincecum now joins Sandy Koufax as the only players to ever win multiple Cy Youngs, throw multiple no hitters and win multiple World Series.

Hooray!
   2. Howie Menckel Posted: June 26, 2014 at 12:20 AM (#4735945)

"However, if Lincecum ever pitches a third no-hitter, he will join the enormously small club of legends from the modern era who’ve done so – Bob Feller, Sandy Koufax and Nolan Ryan. With Lincecum’s other credentials as a two-time Cy Young winner and two-time World Series champ, a third no-hitter would surely have him sniffing Cooperstown."

Incorrect.

He has to resume being a good pitcher again.

   3. EddieA Posted: June 26, 2014 at 12:35 AM (#4735952)
It is interesting that his no-hitters have come after he went over the hill.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: June 26, 2014 at 12:56 AM (#4735957)
Yeah, you've got to be an extra double supreme peak-only voter with bacon on top to go for Lincecum in the HoF at this stage.

We're talking about 1500 IP through the age of 30 with the ERA+ now all the way down to 110. Jake Peavy had 1581 IP and a 114 ERA+ through 30. Beckett 1528 with a 112. Freddy Garcia 1700 with a 111. Even St. Jack Morris had over 1800 with a 111.

Now his ERA is a good bit higher than his FIP but even there (without era adjustments, without park?) while he's definitely in a more impressive bunch, it's still not clear he's been better (overall) than Gary Nolan, Jose Rijo, Rick Wise, Larry Dierker, Bob Welch, Burt Hooton, Al Downing, Sid Fernandez, Roy Oswalt, Kevin Appier, etc.

Interestingly, he and Nolan Ryan look reasonably similar through age 30 (Lincecum 700 IP behind though). If Timmeh can hang on for another 3000 IP, I like his chances of making the HoF.

   5. bjhanke Posted: June 26, 2014 at 03:50 AM (#4735981)
He's Elvis? He wears sequins on his uniform and twerks on the mound? - Brock Hanke
   6. Batman Posted: June 26, 2014 at 11:25 AM (#4736266)
He didn't learn how to throw no-hitters and win World Series until he forgot how to win Cy Youngs.
   7. alilisd Posted: June 26, 2014 at 12:53 PM (#4736377)
enormously small


He really wrote that?
   8. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: June 26, 2014 at 03:25 PM (#4736645)
With this article by Purdy and Ann Killion's gushing tweets yesterday, we know who will be leading the charge for his HOF election once Lincecum retires.

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