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Sunday, July 31, 2011

Rafael Furcal approves trade to Cardinals

But Tony said that Corey Patterson has “the talent to be a No. 1 hitter”!

As expected, shortstop Rafael Furcal has agreed to a trade to the Cardinals. This according to FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal.

No word yet on what the Dodgers will be getting in return.

Furcal has been plagued by injuries for most of the 2011 season and has hit just .197/.272/.248 in 37 games, but the Cardinals are optimistic that he’ll be able to get back to his career norms with a change of scenery.

The District Attorney Posted: July 31, 2011 at 02:16 AM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. akrasian Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:03 AM (#3889416)
Has the 24 hour waiting period (for players who approve a waiving of no trade rights) expired already? I thought that wasn't until tomorrow.
   2. Guts Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:04 AM (#3889419)
Well, the worst than can happen is he's as bad as The Riot. If only this would lead to getting Theriot off the roster, but alas, he will probably be the new utility guy. At least TLR is willing to admit he sucks...
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:07 AM (#3889423)
St. Louis is probably the last place Furcal should want to go.
   4. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:08 AM (#3889424)
Finally the Dodgers are trading somebody. Shouldn't they be trading everyone?
A) They suck
B) They have no money
C) They have a big payroll
D) Their team seems to have been randomly assembled by an overly optimistic draft computer
E) Several of their players should be desirable to contenders
   5. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:19 AM (#3889428)
He's a problem drunk, which makes him a perfect fit for TLR and St. Louis.

Maybe next, they can pick up Lowe from the Braves, really get the party started.
   6. akrasian Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:20 AM (#3889430)
#4 - Kuroda refused to waive his no trade, or he would be gone. Otherwise, their vets either weren't attracting interest or the team didn't want to trade them (like Ethier).

I was hoping Kuroda would accept a trade - I was hoping they'd get a decent catching prospect back for him.
   7. JJ1986 Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:23 AM (#3889433)
Didn't they pull Jamey Carroll of the table? Something's wrong when he's the kind of player you don't want to trade.
   8. DCW3 Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:25 AM (#3889436)
Well, the worst than can happen is he's as bad as The Riot. If only this would lead to getting Theriot off the roster, but alas, he will probably be the new utility guy. At least TLR is willing to admit he sucks...

With Theriot going 6-for-7 over the last two days, my worry is that he just ends up as the starting second baseman.
   9. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:30 AM (#3889439)
Somebody actually wanted Furcal? I suppose he could be productive ... for the 10 or so games he's actually able to play!
   10. asdf1234 Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:52 AM (#3889447)
With Theriot going 6-for-7 over the last two days, my worry is that he just ends up as the starting second baseman.


God help me, but I want Aaron Miles back.
   11. Meramec Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:57 AM (#3889450)
Who did the Cardinals give up? Jaime Garcia?
   12. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:57 AM (#3889451)
Hey, Aaron Miles has been massively better for the 2011 Dodgers than Furcal was.
   13. zachtoma Posted: July 31, 2011 at 05:39 AM (#3889459)
He's a problem drunk, which makes him a perfect fit for TLR and St. Louis.


One of my favorite things about BBTF is that there is never a missed opportunity to sh*t all over Tony LaRussa. And I swear that's not sarcastic.
   14. zachtoma Posted: July 31, 2011 at 06:09 AM (#3889466)
Finally the Dodgers are trading somebody. Shouldn't they be trading everyone?
A) They suck
B) They have no money
C) They have a big payroll
D) Their team seems to have been randomly assembled by an overly optimistic draft computer
E) Several of their players should be desirable to contenders


I'm of the mindset that Andre Ethier should have been on the block this year. He's not getting younger, he's overvalued by many, and he'll command a lot of salary to keep around - cash him in for prospects. Use the savings towards Kemp/Kershaw extensions. He's a fan favorite, so I doubt it will happen this off-season either (it's the smart move but in the context of the McCourt saga, it could provoke a widespread mutiny).
   15. akrasian Posted: July 31, 2011 at 06:50 AM (#3889476)
Didn't they pull Jamey Carroll of the table? Something's wrong when he's the kind of player you don't want to trade.

They got no offers for him of any vaguely decent prospects. So they'll keep him. Furcal they'll trade to save money and clear space to see if Gordon should be handed the starting job next year. But there's no reason to trade Carroll if there is zero real return.

Since I doubt Ethier resigns I thought he should be traded, although he has made statements about wanting to return. Kuroda would have been traded, but he refused to waive his no trade clause, which is his right.
   16. Jacob Posted: July 31, 2011 at 07:01 AM (#3889479)
He's a problem drunk, which makes him a perfect fit for TLR and St. Louis.

One of my favorite things about BBTF is that there is never a missed opportunity to sh*t all over Tony LaRussa. And I swear that's not sarcastic.


hehe...
   17. zachtoma Posted: July 31, 2011 at 07:52 AM (#3889486)
although he has made statements about wanting to return.


To me, that seemed like a pretty transparent way of backing off his over-eager "boy, would I love to play in Boston" overtures a couple weeks prior.
   18. pthomas Posted: July 31, 2011 at 02:05 PM (#3889530)
The Dodgers will be getting an Alimony Payment To Be Named Later for Furcal....
   19. bjhanke Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:08 PM (#3889598)
The Cards got Furcal for at least these reasons:

He's better than any shortstop they now have.
He's better than any leadoff man they have now, and they are desperate for a leadoff man who can get on base (it's the one hole in an offense that is in fact, leading the NL in scoring).
Beyond the two reasons above, there is a good chance that he will turn in a couple of months of better defense and leadoff play than anyone else out there at any position who is affordable.
They can now play Theroit at second (his natural spot) and let Schumacher be part of the outfield bench. Actually, they will platoon Schu and Riot, playing Riot on days when they need Schu in the outfield. But they now have depth beyond Jay and Patterson at center, and decent depth at RF behind Berkman.
Furcal wanted to play in STL, which is one of the reasons he waived his no trade clause without getting any compensation.
They (the Cards) got cash (from where I don't know) to help pay Furcal's salary.
Furcal's father is not of the opinion that he is Furcal's personal hitting coach.

- Brock Hanke
   20. cardsfanboy Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:27 PM (#3889613)
considering what it cost to get him (Alex Castellanos) I don't have a problem with this deal. I was glad to see Craig or Greene wasn't sent in the deal.

I'm not really sure that I agree with Brock on that Furcal is better than any shortstop we now have, I think both Descalso and if Greene ever gets his stuff together, both have cases that they might be better overall players than Furcal is right now.

I agree with the point he's probably a better leadoff hitter than anything we got, and defensively he's an upgrade. I'm just hoping this team could have avoided loading up on veteran goodness and let Descalso, Greene, Kozma and others play, dump Theriot(and I would say Punto but he's played well for us this year and is put on the dl every week, so he's not blocking anyone)

Schumakers defense has improved enough that he's not a huge liability and offensively he's probably better than Theriot, so not seeing the advantage of keeping Theriot in the starting lineup.
   21. greenback is not cosmopolitan Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:33 PM (#3889620)
So does this mean the Cardinals get in line with other creditors?
   22. flournoy Posted: July 31, 2011 at 04:52 PM (#3889632)
I can't believe Rafael Furcal is a 10-and-5 guy. It can't have been that long since he was a Brave. Then again, the Braves are on their third shortstop since his departure already.

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