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Tuesday, April 24, 2018

Raissman: Mike Francesa returning to WFAN in the 3 pm - 7 pm time slot, sources tell News

Al Alburquerque was unavailable for comment.

Unless there is a last-minute snag in the negotiations, Mike (Sports Pope) Francesa will soon return to WFAN, the Daily News has learned.

Francesa will be back in the 3 p.m.-7 p.m. slot, according to well-embedded Hudson Street (FAN Headquarters) rats. The sources said the 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. slot will be divided between Joe Benigno and Evan Roberts, currently FAN’s 10 a.m. – 2 p.m. team, and CMB, aka Chris Carlin, Maggie Gray and Bart Scott, who replaced Francesa earlier this year.

Stormy JE Posted: April 24, 2018 at 03:36 PM | 118 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. 'Spos Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:15 AM (#5659718)
Sources did not indicate when tickets will go on sale for Francesa's next farewell tour.
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:27 AM (#5659724)
He just wants to outlast Alberto Jose Alburquerque.
   3. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:33 AM (#5659727)
This is a red letter day for Sour Shoes.
   4. winnipegwhip Posted: April 25, 2018 at 12:18 PM (#5659912)
Francesa will be back in the 3 p.m.-7 p.m. slot, according to well-embedded Hudson Street (FAN Headquarters) rats.


"If you are going to make an a prank post get the name right. It is Huston Street. Not Hudson Street. Mike in Montclair, what's up..."
   5. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 25, 2018 at 12:54 PM (#5659990)
In an era where you can find multiple quality podcasts on anything you want wherever you want, I completely feel the understand how someone like this still gets an audience.
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 01:15 PM (#5660001)
In an era where you can find multiple quality podcasts on anything you want wherever you want, I completely feel the understand how someone like this still gets an audience.

Because it's on the radio, and takes no effort to access. If I've got a 15-20 minute drive, and not going to download a podcast in preparation. I'll just turn on the radio.

Also, I don't think most people like podcasts. They're way too long, and inconvenient to access. I have literally never listened to a pod cast. I really never hear people talking about the great podcast they heard.
   7. Captain Supporter Posted: April 25, 2018 at 01:19 PM (#5660009)
In an era where you can find multiple quality podcasts on anything you want wherever you want, I completely feel the understand how someone like this still gets an audience.


Live sports radio will have an audience for quite some time to come because of the ability to discuss events that happened in real time. The current generation of podcasts lack that immediacy. Also, I think you are overrating the quality of the available sports podcasts. I have about 10 podcasts in my regular rotation, but none of them are sports podcasts. I have tried a number of them (e.g., Bill Simmons, Pardon My Take, Tales from the Show, a couple of Yankee related ones) but found nothing remotely compelling.
   8. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 01:24 PM (#5660014)
Because it's on the radio, and takes no effort to access. If I've got a 15-20 minute drive, and not going to download a podcast in preparation.


You're doing it wrong. I've always got at least 25 episodes of podcasts I like hanging around on my phone so I'm not subjected to the terrors of terrestrial radio.

They're way too long, and inconvenient to access.


Podcasts come in all lengths from just a few minutes to several hours. They're only inconvenient to access if you've never worked the app before -- the same was once true of almost everything on smartphones.
   9. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 25, 2018 at 01:46 PM (#5660041)
Live sports radio will have an audience for quite some time to come because of the ability to discuss events that happened in real time. The current generation of podcasts lack that immediacy.
immediacy and ability to give feedback is definitely something I can understand as an attraction, but the quality is just so terrible. There are five sports stations I can reach from my area of Southern California, and none of them are worth a damn. After over 30 years of listening to terrible Sports Talk, being able to listen to something that's actually good, something I actually have control over in terms of subject matter, is amazing. I just don't see why other people continue to listen to the same old garbage.
   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 01:56 PM (#5660058)
Podcasts come in all lengths from just a few minutes to several hours. They're only inconvenient to access if you've never worked the app before -- the same was once true of almost everything on smartphones.

I generally despise apps. I use my phone for calls, emails, texts, and occasionally looking up stuff. I have no desire to listen to anything on my phone.

Primarily, this is because I can't stand headphones. I don't understand how anyone can 1) tolerate the feeling of them in your ears, or 2) accept being deprived of all awareness of the sounds around you.

I would never, ever wear headphones while driving or as a pedestrian. It's just negligent.
   11. Batman Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:01 PM (#5660066)
In an era where you can find multiple quality podcasts on anything you want wherever you want, I completely feel the understand how someone like this still gets an audience.
I would agree with the idea behind the second part of this sentence even if we lived in a world where there was only one thing people could watch or hear anywhere in the Universe.
   12. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:02 PM (#5660067)
I have literally never listened to a pod cast. I really never hear people talking about the great podcast they heard.

You are, actually, missing out. The range of podcasts is extraordinary and odds are there are at least a handful that you'd enjoy. They take many different forms ... news magazines, academic lectures, interviews, talk radio jabbering, etc.

I hear people talking about podcasts all the time. Heck, when "Serial" blew up, it's all people in my circle were talking about.

Me, though, I still have a car without an Aux hookup, so we listen to a lot of radio, and I'm a bit concerned with how many Foreigner and Eagles songs my 6 year old daughter can identify.
   13. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Fred Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:04 PM (#5660070)
There are five sports stations I can reach from my area of Southern California, and none of them are worth a damn.
This is true, and underlines why there is an audience for Francesa.

There's two things going on here though: call-in broadcast sports talk vs specialist podcasts, and Mike Francesa vs other call-in hosts. It sounds like, given the choice between a populist call-in show and a specialist podcast, you'll go with the podcast every time. Which is totally fair enough! But the two are distinct, and for what the call-in job requires, Francesa does it very well, hence the continued audience. If you've only listened to the SoCal stations, you might check him out for a few minutes.
   14. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:08 PM (#5660076)
Just looked it up, had a hunch something like this would exist:

A podcast on Catholicism and economics. I mean, it might suck, but you get the idea, there's something for everyone.
   15. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:09 PM (#5660077)
There's two things going on here though: call-in broadcast sports talk vs specialist podcasts, and Mike Francesa vs other call-in hosts. It sounds like, given the choice between a populist call-in show and a specialist podcast, you'll go with the podcast every time. Which is totally fair enough! But the two are distinct, and for what the call-in job requires, Francesa does it very well, hence the continued audience. If you've only listened to the SoCal stations, you might check him out for a few minutes.


I listen to a decent amount of podcasts and live sports talk radio and agree completely. Live call in sports talk radio can be fun (and stupid) and covers a different entertainment ground than most podcasts. Podcasts are more narrowly focused usually and usually have lower production value.

The best talk radio though is entertaining in a way podcasts aren't imo.
   16. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:09 PM (#5660078)
You are, actually, missing out. The range of podcasts is extraordinary and odds are there are at least a handful that you'd enjoy. They take many different forms ... news magazines, academic lectures, interviews, talk radio jabbering, etc.

I don't like to consume information by audio or video. It takes 2 or 3 times are long as reading, and I retain far less info.

Whenever I link to something online and it's video or audio, I just click away.
   17. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:10 PM (#5660080)
You are, actually, missing out. The range of podcasts is extraordinary and odds are there are at least a handful that you'd enjoy. I hear people talking about podcasts all the time.


The great thing about podcasts is that they are pretty much by definition a niche product, and there's likely to be one that covers whatever your niche happens to be. "Cocaine and Rhinestones" is great if you're interested in the history of country music. "You Must Remember This" is great if you're interested in classic Hollywood. "S-Town" is great if you're interested in small-town American culture. They're also able to assume that their audience is intelligent.

Sports talk radio, by contrast, is designed to pander to the lowest common denominator in order to maximize its audience. I don't think I've ever heard a sports talk show that added to my sum total of intelligence. I'd rather have silence in the car than listen to Mike Francesa.
   18. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:14 PM (#5660084)
I don't like to consume information by audio or video. It takes 2 or 3 times are long as reading, and I retain far less info.


I'm the same way with online video/audio. Despise it.

I listen to Podcasts when I'm doing other stuff, mostly. Most often when driving, especially if I have an hour or more alone in the car, but also if I'm working around the house, exercising, cooking... the first podcast I got into was a several-hundred episode long history of Rome. I listened to it when I had a 60-90 minute driving commute. It's possible to find lectures on stuff like that on CD, but less convenient, and potentially expensive.
   19. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:14 PM (#5660085)
Sports talk radio, by contrast, is designed to pander to the lowest common denominator in order to maximize its audience. I don't think I've ever heard a sports talk show that added to my sum total of intelligence. I'd rather have silence in the car than listen to Mike Francesa.


The guy Bill Reiter on CBS does a good job. Here in Seattle I love listening to 710's early afternoon show of Bob, Groz and Tom. Those guys are about as good as it gets for sports talk radio imo.
   20. catomi01 Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:24 PM (#5660102)
If you've only listened to the SoCal stations, you might check him out for a few minutes.


And then shoot yourself and die. I've lived in New York my entire life (minus 4 years in PA for College, and 2 in CT for work), and I don't think I've ever been able to get through more than 5 minutes of Francesa without either yelling at my radio or changing the station. If he's good compared to the rest of the nation's options, then god help you all.
   21. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:28 PM (#5660113)
Primarily, this is because I can't stand headphones. I don't understand how anyone can 1) tolerate the feeling of them in your ears, or 2) accept being deprived of all awareness of the sounds around you.


Pretty much most modern cars have a USB connection (if not a bluetooth connection) that lets you connect your phone/device to the car audio system and use the built in speakers instead.

I listen to podcasts during my daily commutes or on long-haul solo drives (without my wife and child).

"Up First" is a NPR morning news podcast that is about 15 minutes in length and is released at 6:00am. It briefly covers the big news of the day before or the upcoming day. It's good for me to catch up on anything I might have missed.

"Pardon the Interruption" is the audio version of the TV show. It's from the previous day, so the hot takes are a little out of date, but it's still interesting to hear them talk about various sports items.

"Planet Money" is a ~20 minute podcast about economics that tackles some interesting/unknown items in the news.

For longer runs, I have "30 for 30", "Dan Carlin's Hardcore History", and a computer game podcast from the UK.
When my commutes were double in length, I also used to listen to "Freakonomics", "This American Life", and "Radiolab". With shorter commutes, I don't delve into any podcasts that are over 40 minutes in length.
   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:29 PM (#5660114)
And then shoot yourself and die. I've lived in New York my entire life (minus 4 years in PA for College, and 2 in CT for work), and I don't think I've ever been able to get through more than 5 minutes of Francesa without either yelling at my radio or changing the station. If he's good compared to the rest of the nation's options, then god help you all.

Francesa is awful. But, WFAN has a bunch of hosts in less high profile spots that are pretty good. I like Boomer Esiason. Joe Benigno and Evan Roberts have a good show. On the weekends, Ed Coleman, and Joey McDonald are good.

   23. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:30 PM (#5660116)
Pretty much most modern cars have a USB connection (if not a bluetooth connection) that lets you connect your phone/device to the car audio system and use the built in speakers instead.

My newest car is 10 years old. Only has 65,000 miles, so no chance I'm replacing it.
   24. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:34 PM (#5660127)
I generally despise apps. I use my phone for calls, emails, texts, and occasionally looking up stuff. I have no desire to listen to anything on my phone.
Snapper is famously dismissive of anything from the 21st century.
   25. Blastin Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:35 PM (#5660131)
snapper's inability to understand and/or enjoy modern technology, film at 11. Edit: Coke to Podcasting (ha) Hombre.

"I don't like podcasts" =/= "no one likes podcasts," dude. And lots of people like headphones. But please, bring us more of your extremely specific anecdata!



Now, to go back to your first actual point, people listen to the radio because it's inertia in cars. There, your point is made.

Francesa is bad, but watching deadspin make fun of him is fun, so I'll take it.

As for me, I too don't often download them, so I don't listen as often as when i had gobs of free time when i was underemployed years back, and I never drive. But in a car, yes, sure.
   26. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:36 PM (#5660133)
Snapper is famously dismissive of anything from the 21st century.

I love EZ Pass :-)

Otherwise, there really isn't anything invented since like 1990 that I view as an improvement to my life. So, yeah.
   27. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:36 PM (#5660135)
My newest car is 10 years old. Only has 65,000 miles, so no chance I'm replacing it.


Whoever suggested that you do?

   28. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:36 PM (#5660136)
"I don't like podcasts" =/= "no one likes podcasts," dude.

Not what I said. I said I never hear anyone talking about podcasts. I hear people talking about TV shows, books, movies, etc., but not podcasts.
   29. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:37 PM (#5660138)
Otherwise, there really isn't anything invented since like 1990 that I view as an improvement to my life. So, yeah.


Baseball Think Factory?
   30. Blastin Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:40 PM (#5660142)
I don't think most people like podcasts


Okay, so I changed "I don't think most people" to "no one." I will concede overstating your point.

And if we're talking about people we know and other assorted anecdata, people I know do talk about podcasts, particularly Serial a couple years ago.

The point is, we get it, you no like change.


It's gonna be particularly funny for all of us to watch your reaction when AI takes over.
   31. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:43 PM (#5660150)
Baseball Think Factory?

Probably net neutral, when you consider how much more productive I'd be at work ;-)
   32. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:47 PM (#5660155)
Otherwise, there really isn't anything invented since like 1990 that I view as an improvement to my life. So, yeah.


Your smart phone was invented after 1990, and it's obviously an improvement on the phone you used to have since you actually own it.

Text messaging was invented in the 1990s.

DVDs and blu-ray discs were invented after 1990.

When you talk about searching the internet, it probably means Google and that was in the 1990s.

The optical mouse (instead of the tiny ball/rollers version) was in the 1990s.

DVRs were invented after 1990.

HDTV was invented after 1990.

GPS (in a phone or a specific device) for the public to use was after 1990.

The Human Genome Project has opened up so much for the medical community, and that was after 1990.

   33. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:49 PM (#5660162)
It's gonna be particularly funny for all of us to watch your reaction when AI takes over.

Well, if that ever happens in a meaningful way, I'd sort of enjoy the resulting revolution. Seeing the collective management of silicon valley and the Fortune 500 hanging from lamp posts would be sort of droll.
   34. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:52 PM (#5660165)
I have literally never listened to a pod cast. I really never hear people talking about the great podcast they heard.

Podcast quality varies widely, but as a baseball fan I'd strongly encourage you to check out Ben Lindbergh and Jeff Sullivan's "Effectively Wild" baseball podcast. It really is great -- they're smart, funny, engaging and informative. (Pretty much the antithesis of Francesca).
   35. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:52 PM (#5660166)
Your smart phone was invented after 1990, and it's obviously an improvement on the phone you used to have since you actually own it.

Any benefit from my private use is overwhelmed by the harm from being connected to work in my off hours. If I could snap my fingers and eliminate cellphones, I would in 2 seconds.

Text messaging was invented in the 1990s.

Hate it.

DVDs and blu-ray discs were invented after 1990.

VHS was fine.

When you talk about searching the internet, it probably means Google and that was in the 1990s.


Would be perfectly happy without it.

The optical mouse (instead of the tiny ball/rollers version) was in the 1990s.


Talk about trivial.

DVRs were invented after 1990.

HDTV was invented after 1990.


Don't really care.

GPS (in a phone or a specific device) for the public to use was after 1990.


Never use it.

The Human Genome Project has opened up so much for the medical community, and that was after 1990.

Which is bankrupting our society.
   36. Batman Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:54 PM (#5660168)
There's a debate about whether Mike Trout was invented in late 1990 or on August 7, 1991.
   37. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:54 PM (#5660169)
My newest car is 10 years old. Only has 65,000 miles, so no chance I'm replacing it.

You can buy aftermarket devices that hook into your car stereo and let you either plug in a phone or stream audio over bluetooth.
   38. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:55 PM (#5660171)
You can buy aftermarket devices that hook into your car stereo and let you either plug in a phone or stream audio over bluetooth.

Given that mileage, I drive so little that it isn't worth any hassle.
   39. McCoy Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:59 PM (#5660175)
I'm not into podcasts, probably never will be, and I don't find them convenient for me at all. I'm just never going to be doing something where I want to listen to someone talking and that's it. For driving I plug in pandora and it's background noise. If I'm flying or on a train I'll read a book or watch a movie. I also hate talkradio so this isn't really a technological thing but I will say I have no desire to download podcasts and then search through them so that I can play the ones I want as I drive.
   40. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 02:59 PM (#5660176)
If I ever make it to the softball game, it will be just so that I can meet snapper.
   41. McCoy Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:00 PM (#5660177)
VHS was fine.


Now this is BS.
   42. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:04 PM (#5660182)
DVDs and blu-ray discs were invented after 1990.

VHS was fine.


There is no aspect of VHS that is equal to or better than DVDs or blu-ray discs.
Not one. It's an improvement in every single facet.

Visual quality, audio quality, durability, accessibility.

But I get it. Your shtick is "Modern society is bad" and you'll cling to that belief regardless of the evidence.
I won't waste any more time poking holes in that theory.
   43. Howie Menckel Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:09 PM (#5660185)
If I ever make it to the softball game, it will be just so that I can meet snapper.

I've met him!

sorry, no spoilers
:)
   44. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:11 PM (#5660189)
If I ever make it to the softball game, it will be just so that I can meet snapper.
You could just visit any retirement community. There's lots of people like him who would appreciate a visitor and an afternoon's conversation about how anything new is the worst.
   45. PreservedFish Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:11 PM (#5660191)
Some quality improvements are incremental and we as a species get used to them so quickly that they're basically irrelevant. I think that's the case with BluRay over DVD - it's a clear improvement, but ultimately, whatever, DVDs are still great.

I don't think that's the case with DVDs themselves, which were a phenomenal leap forward from VHS, in every way. VHS was very, very popular, of course, every house had one. But DVDs seemed to usher in a new era, and I think they probably changed the film (maybe) and television (certainly) industries in fundamental ways.
   46. SoSH U at work Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:13 PM (#5660192)
I don't think that's the case with DVDs themselves, which were a phenomenal leap forward from VHS, in every way.


Wait - didn't DVDs predate DVRs?
   47. Karl from NY Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:21 PM (#5660206)
Primarily, this is because I can't stand headphones. I don't understand how anyone can 1) tolerate the feeling of them in your ears, or 2) accept being deprived of all awareness of the sounds around you.

THANK YOU. I thought I was the only person in the world who hates headphones.

Otherwise, there really isn't anything invented since like 1990 that I view as an improvement to my life. So, yeah.

Baseball Think Factory?

One could count BTF as a derivative from rec.sport.baseball, which would date to 1988 or so.
   48. SoSH U at work Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:26 PM (#5660213)
THANK YOU. I thought I was the only person in the world who hates headphones.


I spend a lot of time wearing over-the-ears headphones, but I absolutely will not wear ear buds.
   49. Blastin Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:26 PM (#5660214)
But I get it. Your shtick is "Modern society is bad" and you'll cling to that belief regardless of the evidence.
I won't waste any more time poking holes in that theory.


Yeah. I got sucked in, which is my own fault. Forget it, people, it's snappertown.


But as for meeting snapper, in person, he doesn't come off as though we are all on his lawn and need to get off :)
   50. Karl from NY Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:33 PM (#5660229)
There is no aspect of VHS that is equal to or better than DVDs or blu-ray discs.

Yes there is. Its simplicity. You can just put in a VHS cassette and press play. No customer-hostile behavior like region locking. No garbage about clicking through a pile of menus or unskippable previews and warnings before you can get to what you paid for. The technical aspects of VHS aren't superior, but the technical capabilities of DVD have been used to make its commercial aspects worse for the user.

And VHS media is more durable. You can hand one to your three-year-old to put in the machine without worrying he'll break it. Not so for a DVD.

Finally, VHS is better for nonlinear *writing*. Handheld video recorders do have DVD burners now, but you still can't really back up and rerecord on that media. You can do all of that in postproduction on a computer, of course, but nothing as simply usable as rewind and rerecord.
   51. Blastin Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:34 PM (#5660232)
No garbage about clicking through a pile of menus or unskippable previews and warnings before you can get to what you paid for.


...but once you watch the movie... there is that whole "rewind" thing.

So I can see this the FIRST time.
   52. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:37 PM (#5660238)
And VHS media is more durable. You can hand one to your three-year-old to put in the machine without worrying. Not so for a DVD.

DVDs can get scratched, but magnetic tape inevitably degrades over time.
   53. Karl from NY Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:40 PM (#5660246)
I'm not saying discs aren't better overall, all things considered. Just saying there are some particular aspects that cassettes do better.
   54. Batman Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:50 PM (#5660260)
I sometimes pass by a really seedy motel that advertises VCRs in every room. If I ever have to watch a VHS tape, that's where I'll go.
   55. Perry Posted: April 25, 2018 at 03:51 PM (#5660264)
I have tried a number of them (e.g., Bill Simmons, Pardon My Take, Tales from the Show, a couple of Yankee related ones) but found nothing remotely compelling.


I like Posnanski's a lot, he and Michael Schur work well together. I've just listened to a couple of episodes of one that Will Leitch and Bernie Miklasz do on the Cardinals, and liked it, but nobody who's not a Cardinal fan would care. Arsecast (revolving around Arsenal FC) is fantastic, but again, team-specific.

"You Must Remember This" is great if you're interested in classic Hollywood.


Oh man am I hooked on that. At first I thought she was wasting the strengths of the medium, since she's basically just reading, but the quality of her research, writing, and storytelling are so great I soon stopped caring. Same with her Valley Girl accent; it bothered me at first, now it's endearing.

My other favorite is a Radiolab spinoff called "More Perfect," which tells the stories and background around famous/important Supreme Court decisions.

I don't drive much so podcast episodes do tend to pile up sometimes. I listen at the gym and when I'm doing mindless chores. An hour of housework, not to mention three hours of raking/bagging leaves, is a LOT more fun with podcasts to engage my interest.

   56. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:16 PM (#5660303)
Otherwise, there really isn't anything invented since like 1990 that I view as an improvement to my life. So, yeah.

So you'd rather listen to Sterling and Waldman than watch the Yanks on YES? YMMV, I guess.

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If I ever make it to the softball game, it will be just so that I can meet snapper.

I've heard he once won some bucks on Jeopardy,** but I have no idea whether it ever made it to YouTube.

** And there's no truth to the rumor that he gave all his winnings to Pat Buchanan's campaign
   57. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:24 PM (#5660316)

Podcasts come in all lengths from just a few minutes to several hours. They're only inconvenient to access if you've never worked the app before -- the same was once true of almost everything on smartphones.
Uh, you don't want to get Snapper started on smartphones. And get off his lawn.
   58. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: April 25, 2018 at 04:26 PM (#5660320)
I don't like to consume information by audio or video. It takes 2 or 3 times are long as reading, and I retain far less info.
Uh, I would definitely not suggest reading while driving.
   59. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Fred Posted: April 25, 2018 at 05:53 PM (#5660405)
I have a friend who, because he is such an interesting and efficient person with not enough time in the day, listens to his podcasts at 1.6x their normal speed. Apparently that's about as fast as it can go before the sped-up voices sound too too weird.

Yes, he's insane.
   60. stig-tossled, hornswoggled gef the typing mongoose Posted: April 25, 2018 at 06:04 PM (#5660410)
I have a friend who, because he is such an interesting and efficient person with not enough time in the day, listens to his podcasts at 1.6x their normal speed. Apparently that's about as fast as it can go before the sped-up voices sound too too weird.


That's how I listen -- well, probably it's 1.5x, not 1.6x -- to DVD commentaries. It's not really noticeable.
   61. catomi01 Posted: April 25, 2018 at 06:23 PM (#5660425)
Francesa is awful. But, WFAN has a bunch of hosts in less high profile spots that are pretty good. I like Boomer Esiason. Joe Benigno and Evan Roberts have a good show. On the weekends, Ed Coleman, and Joey McDonald are good.


That I agree with - not a huge fan of Boomer, Beningo, or Roberts, but they are tolerable at worst. Ed Coleman I genuinely like.
   62. Leroy Kincaid Posted: April 25, 2018 at 07:49 PM (#5660479)
Francesa is awful. But, WFAN has a bunch of hosts in less high profile spots that are pretty good. I like Boomer Esiason. Joe Benigno and Evan Roberts have a good show. On the weekends, Ed Coleman, and Joey McDonald are good.


Haven't listened to sports-talk in about 10 years but from what I recall...Esiason sounds like someone who's taken too many shots to the head (I still hear him doing NFL games on the radio)...Benigno is some goofball fan who won a contest...Not familiar with Evans...Always liked Coleman...Is Joey as good as his dad, Jody?

If I ever make it to the softball game


Can you emmereffers play that damn game already so it can be unpinned from the top of the page? I can't be only one that finds it obnoxious. Let it fall off the page like everything else.
   63. Hysterical & Useless Posted: April 25, 2018 at 08:48 PM (#5660536)
it will be just so that I can meet snapper.


I love snapper. I'm like 20 years older than him, and reading his posts makes me feel like a kid.

And as Blastin notes, he's not at all that curmudgeonly in person. Actually quite pleasant.
   64. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 25, 2018 at 10:56 PM (#5660672)
unskippable previews and warnings before you can get to what you paid for.


VHS tapes have previews that you have to fast forward through (and take time to do so). DVD previews can be skipped instantly by just clicking the "next chapter" button.

And VHS tapes also have the FBI warnings.

And VHS media is more durable. You can hand one to your three-year-old to put in the machine without worrying he'll break it. Not so for a DVD.


VHS tapes snap, degrade, and warp over time. So far, none of my DVDs have suffered that fate. Zero degradation for discs over 20 years old that I've watched many times over.
If you think a 3-year-old can handle a VHS tape and not a DVD disc, then I'm guessing you've never had the fun of seeing what they can put into that gaping maw before a tape even gets there.
   65. . . . . . . Posted: April 25, 2018 at 11:04 PM (#5660686)
I also mostly loathe podcasts. Ifs almost impossible to retain information from them, and if you do pay attention to them you can’t really do anything else in the background because it requires your focus. If you’re just using them as background noise then they’re generally not nearly as entertaining as shitty radio, because the production values are crap and the hosts untalented.

They strike me as very middle brow, in the way that the NY Times used to be. Not true anymore, but back in the 90s the Times was basically for people who fancied themselves educated but were really just had their nose in the air about things. Lower class people read the Post, because it was funny and gossipy and loud and profane, other than union folks who read the News. And upper class people read the Post because it was funny and gossipy and loud and profane, and since the Paper of Record was a piece of #### anyways you might as well have fun while getting your news.

Francesa may be an idiot, but at least he’s a decent entertainer. I’d take him over 90% of the supposedly “smart” sports podcasts.
   66. Stormy JE Posted: April 25, 2018 at 11:08 PM (#5660690)
I spend a lot of time wearing over-the-ears headphones, but I absolutely will not wear ear buds.
Have you ever tried doing cardio with over-the-ears headphones? Not a fan.
   67. Stormy JE Posted: April 25, 2018 at 11:09 PM (#5660691)
Can you emmereffers play that damn game already so it can be unpinned from the top of the page? I can't be only one that finds it obnoxious. Let it fall off the page like everything else.
Chillax, the game's less than four months away.
   68. PreservedFish Posted: April 26, 2018 at 07:39 AM (#5660778)
In which 'zop argues that he's better than everyone because he likes Mike Francesa. Ok.
   69. McCoy Posted: April 26, 2018 at 07:52 AM (#5660780)
I once rented either Nowhere to Run or Hard Target and dropped it on the floor as I was putting it in the VCR. Broke the little flap on it that pops up so that the machine can read the tape. Superglued it back on and returned it to the video rental store.

With VCRs you had to clean the heads periodically, they were pretty darn bulky (machine and tapes), the quality of the tape degraded over time, and the quality of the recording was lacking. Not to say they were the worst thing in the world. They were pretty darn good but that DVDs were instantly more superior in virtually every single way once they came out and once they added a recording option and or DVR became a thing they were absolutely obsolete.
   70. . . . . . . Posted: April 26, 2018 at 07:58 AM (#5660783)
In which 'zop argues that he's better than everyone because he likes Mike Francesa. Ok.


I can’t stand Francesa and haven’t listened to him since I was in college. I’m just saying, Posananski is an idiot too, but speaks without a Long Island twang. That makes him more socially acceptable to listen to if you shop at Whole Foods but it doesn’t make his show ‘better’.

Many Podcasts are done by people who don’t have enough talent to do radio.
   71. Scott Lange Posted: April 26, 2018 at 09:22 AM (#5660827)
There are over 500,000 active podcasts right now. That means some really smart people (along with loads of idiots) are churning out content on all sorts of niche topics including some that inevitably will be "your" niche. If you can't find content in there that is smarter and more interesting than the cesspool of talk radio, you aren't trying.

Let's hear more recommendations! Here are my favorites:

Basketball
Open Floor
The Lowe Post (Zack Lowe)
Dunc'd On Basketball

Culture
NPR Pop Culture Happy Hour
NPR Code Switch
I Only Listen to the Mountain Goats

TV
The Americans
Aw Jeez- A Fargo Podcast
Better Call Saul Insider Podcast

Politics
Pod Save America
The Weeds
The Ezra Klein Show
Today Explained
Amicus w/ Dahlia Lithwick

Humor
Judge John Hodgman

Interviews (all guest dependent to varying degrees)
Fresh Air (basically just the radio show)
WTF
You Made It Weird

General Interest/Other
99% Invisible
Reply All
Astronomy Cast
I like Posnanski's a lot, he and Michael Schur work well together.


Their podcast is fantastic, except for when Posnanski talks. Alan Sepinwall has had two different TV criticism podcasts ruined by unlistenable cohosts now - why oh why can't Schur and Sepinwall just ditch their partners and get together?
   72. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 09:34 AM (#5660846)
Podcast quality varies widely, but as a baseball fan I'd strongly encourage you to check out Ben Lindbergh and Jeff Sullivan's "Effectively Wild" baseball podcast. It really is great -- they're smart, funny, engaging and informative. (Pretty much the antithesis of Francesca).


THIS!
   73. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 09:39 AM (#5660851)

I can’t stand Francesa and haven’t listened to him since I was in college. I’m just saying, Posananski is an idiot too, but speaks without a Long Island twang. That makes him more socially acceptable to listen to if you shop at Whole Foods but it doesn’t make his show ‘better’.
I haven't heard Posnanski in my life -- but he writes well and intelligently and informedly and humorously. That's why he's more socially acceptable than Francessa, who doesn't do anything well, intelligently, informedly or (intentionally) humorously.
   74. . . . . . . Posted: April 26, 2018 at 11:04 AM (#5660957)
I haven't heard Posnanski in my life -- but he writes well and intelligently and informedly and humorously. That's why he's more socially acceptable than Francessa, who doesn't do anything well, intelligently, informedly or (intentionally) humorously.


Posnanski's writing is trite, saccharine, and often just flatly wrong. He's more socially acceptable among a narrow group of professional class people who use faux-sophistication like podcasts to mark themselves as different than the next tier down the class structure. Just as the class above the professional class has their own markers, and the middle class has its own markers to separate itself from the working class, and so on and so forth. Don't confuse class signifying with substance.

The podcast is simply shitty radio for the upwardly mobile professional.
   75. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 11:18 AM (#5660994)
I've heard he once won some bucks on Jeopardy,** but I have no idea whether it ever made it to YouTube.

Jeopardy never releases the video, or allows it on YouTube, to my knowledge. I have the episodes on VHS though :-) Still have two working VCR and a tube TV too.

You can find text accounts of my games here:

J!Archive

Season 20 starting on 2-06-2004
   76. The Good Face Posted: April 26, 2018 at 11:19 AM (#5660997)
That's why he's more socially acceptable than Francessa, who doesn't do anything well, intelligently, informedly or (intentionally) humorously.


I don't see why unintentional comedy deserves less credit than the intentional stuff. Often it's better. And Francesa is a fount of unintentional comedy.
   77. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 11:38 AM (#5661022)
I don't see why unintentional comedy deserves less credit than the intentional stuff. Often it's better. And Francesa is a fount of unintentional comedy.

Everybody should check out the parodies of Francesa/Russo on Youtube, doing talk shows about the Civil War and WWII. Pure gold.
   78. Howie Menckel Posted: April 26, 2018 at 11:42 AM (#5661027)
I don't see why unintentional comedy deserves less credit than the intentional stuff. Often it's better. And Francesa is a fount of unintentional comedy.

+1
   79. SoSH U at work Posted: April 26, 2018 at 11:44 AM (#5661031)
Have you ever tried doing cardio with over-the-ears headphones? Not a fan.


I'm sure my odds of ever doing cardio will be increased microscopically if I knew what doing cardio entailed, but I can assure you that if the activity precluded the use of over-the-ear headphones, I would go aural naturel rather than stick something in my ####### ears.
   80. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 11:52 AM (#5661038)
Jeopardy never releases the video, or allows it on YouTube, to my knowledge. I have the episodes on VHS though :-) Still have two working VCR and a tube TV too.

You can find text accounts of my games here:

J!Archive

Season 20 starting on 2-06-2004


That is incredible! 14 year belated congrats!
   81. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 11:53 AM (#5661041)
That is incredible! 14 year belated congrats!

Thanks!
   82. Stormy JE Posted: April 26, 2018 at 11:58 AM (#5661052)
That is incredible! 14 year belated congrats!
And it's been all downhill from there. :)
   83. McCoy Posted: April 26, 2018 at 11:59 AM (#5661054)
   84. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:01 PM (#5661056)
Ahem

Blocked by my work internet. is that one of my episodes?
   85. McCoy Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:03 PM (#5661060)
Yes. I didn't watch because my work blocks the actual video but appears all you need to do is register to watch it and registration is free.
   86. Batman Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM (#5661061)
A childhood friend of mine will be on an episode of Jeopardy! that airs next week. They recorded it a couple of months ago, but he and his wife can't talk about it because they signed an NDA. We had dinner the night after they shot his game and we'd agreed that he would pay if he won and I would if he didn't, so there was a dramatic moment at the end of the meal where he took the check, held it up, and then slid it across to me.

They did say that Alex Trebek seemed like an #######. The NDA may not have covered that.
   87. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:08 PM (#5661065)
They did say that Alex Trebek seemed like an #######.

Concur.
   88. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:09 PM (#5661067)
Yes. I didn't watch because my work blocks the actual video but appears all you need to do is register to watch it and registration is free.

Cool, thanks! Does it seem like they have them all?
   89. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM (#5661068)
Jeopardy never releases the video, or allows it on YouTube, to my knowledge. I have the episodes on VHS though :-) Still have two working VCR and a tube TV too.

You can find text accounts of my games here:

J!Archive

Season 20 starting on 2-06-2004


Found it, and $25,000** is pretty impressive.

** coke to robinred for that bit of info, along with your picture

EDIT: and another coke to McCoy
   90. McCoy Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:12 PM (#5661070)
Found it, and $25,000** is pretty impressive.

That is only for being the runner up. Keep looking
   91. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:13 PM (#5661071)
Found it, and $25,000** is pretty impressive.

Is that from the Tournament of Champions?
   92. McCoy Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:13 PM (#5661072)
Cool, thanks! Does it seem like they have them all?

Yes. It looks like they have every Jeopardy episode available.
   93. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5661073)
Yes. It looks like they have every Jeopardy episode available.

Awesome!
   94. -- Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5661075)
The only podcast I've really listened to more than once or twice is "Filmspotting." I'm a relatively consistent listener.
   95. SoSH U at work Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:16 PM (#5661077)
They did say that Alex Trebek seemed like an #######.


Concur.

When my son competed in the National Geographic Bee, I got to watch Alex Trebek work, as he annually hosts the final. During the first year my boy was there, I was stunned when Trebek twice joked about how unpronouncable one Indian boy's last name was. Yeah, Alex, I'm sure the kid doesn't get enough #### about that at school, why don't you do it on TV?
   96. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:17 PM (#5661078)
Found it, and $25,000** is pretty impressive.

Is that from the Tournament of Champions?


Not sure, but here's the link that robin sent me many years ago.
   97. Stormy JE Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:17 PM (#5661079)
Ahem
Funny, snapper doesn't look like a Janice.
   98. Karl from NY Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:20 PM (#5661082)
Trebek intentionally avoids being friendly with the contestants, and speaks to them off-camera as minimally as possible, in order to head off any claims of favoritism or other impropriety.

That doesn't preclude that he might be a douche anyway, but there is a professional reason for maintaining some distance.
   99. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:24 PM (#5661085)
Not sure, but here's the link that robin sent me many years ago.

Yeah that's the TOC. Doesn't include my 5 "regular season" shows.
   100. Howie Menckel Posted: April 26, 2018 at 12:35 PM (#5661092)
I used to work with an attractive young woman who appeared on the show (she finished second). I teased her about whether he flirted with her, and she noted how cold he was before, during breaks, and after.

Karl has a kind version, but I suspect both his reasons apply.
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