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Monday, December 09, 2013

Randy Levine: Boss omission a ‘mistake’

Lost in the flood…of candidates. (oh-oh…oh-oh…repeat ad nauseam)

“I think it was a mistake,” Levine told ESPN New York by telephone. “I congratulate Joe Torre, Bobby Cox and Tony La Russa. All of them were thoroughly deserving but I think there is no doubt that George Steinbrenner was one of the greatest figures in the history of baseball. He, more than anybody, deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. I fully expect he will be one day.”

Steinbrenner’s credentials will be re-evaluated in three years when the committee next votes. He needs to receive 12 of 16 votes. He picked up six or fewer votes this year.

In a statement released by the team, Hal Steinbrenner did not address his father’s failure to be voted in, but applauded Joe Torre for being unanimously elected.

“On behalf of the Steinbrenner family and our entire organization, I’d like to congratulate Joe Torre on his induction today into the Hall of Fame,” Hal said. “Joe led our team during one of the most successful runs in our storied history, and he did it with a quiet dignity that was true to the Yankee way. Joe’s place in Yankees history has been secure for quite some time and it is appropriate that he now gets to take his place among the greats in Cooperstown.”

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   1. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 09, 2013 at 05:18 PM (#4614579)
All of them were thoroughly deserving but I think there is no doubt that George Steinbrenner was one of the greatest figures in the history of baseball.


Well, he's MLB's career leader in times being banned from the sport, so he's got that going for him.
   2. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: December 09, 2013 at 05:21 PM (#4614581)

Well, he's MLB's career leader in times being banned from the sport, so he's got that going for him.


Steve Howe might disagree with that one.
   3. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 09, 2013 at 05:25 PM (#4614585)
Howe was suspended a bunch of times, but I think he was only ever actually banned once, right?
   4. TerpNats Posted: December 09, 2013 at 05:40 PM (#4614595)
Most colorful/controversial figures? Yes. Greatest figures? Er...

(I personally would have no objection to Steinbrenner in the Hall, as long as this was part of his plaque: "Hired John Sterling as play-by-play announcer, but don't hold that against him.")
   5. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: December 09, 2013 at 06:17 PM (#4614636)
I'd prefer not to have Sterling's name engraved on any plaques in any context, thank you very much. That's just feeding the dragon.
   6. Jeltzandini Posted: December 09, 2013 at 06:46 PM (#4614669)
Randy Levinea let you finish, but...
   7. villageidiom Posted: December 09, 2013 at 06:50 PM (#4614672)
and he did it with a quiet dignity that was true to the Yankee way.
Hal takes the high road, focuses on the Yankee who got in and is nothing but complimentary. Kudos.

This might seem like damning with faint praise, but Hal is my favorite Steinbrenner. Hank is more entertaining in a sound-and-fury kind of way, much like his father in his younger days, but unlike Hank, Hal strikes me as someone who has learned from both his father's successes and his father's failures. GS3 restored Yankees fans' pride, which certainly endears him to Yankees fans more than Hal will probably ever experience; but Hal might end up being the most successful businessman of them all.

- - - - -

Randy Levine, OTOH, is not true to the Yankee way (as defined above by Hal). There is no quiet dignity with him.
   8. willcarrolldoesnotsuk Posted: December 09, 2013 at 06:59 PM (#4614679)
"More than anybody"!
   9. Jeltzandini Posted: December 09, 2013 at 07:05 PM (#4614684)
"More than anybody"!


Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, Willie Mays?

Yes.

Morons!
   10. TerpNats Posted: December 09, 2013 at 07:15 PM (#4614692)
I think 100 years from now, Steinbrenner will be viewed as the 20th century's Chris von der Ahe.
   11. villageidiom Posted: December 09, 2013 at 07:16 PM (#4614695)
"More than anybody"!
I was going to cite this, but since I didn't hear the actual comment I figured I'd let it go simply as a figure of speech rather than a literal proclamation. But even as a figure of speech it's pretty absurd to say. Hell, it's easily arguable that Steinbrenner would've been nothing without Marvin Miller.
   12. Publius Publicola Posted: December 09, 2013 at 07:31 PM (#4614708)
Randy Levine is truly pathetic.
   13. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: December 09, 2013 at 07:40 PM (#4614715)
Randy Levine is truly pathetic.


Not being a NY fan, I had to look up to see just who this toad is.
   14. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: December 09, 2013 at 08:17 PM (#4614736)
Most colorful/successful pro sports team owner of my lifetime. He'll go in eventually.
   15. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: December 09, 2013 at 08:42 PM (#4614742)
I think 100 years from now, Steinbrenner will be viewed as the 20th century's Chris von der Ahe.


I'll think he'll be viewed more fondly in future generations than he is now. His teams were incredibly successful and he could be incredibly generous when the spirit moved him. The stuff that we think of so much when we think of him being a buffoon; the managerial merry-go-round, the Dave Winfield stuff, the Nixon contributions, the general ############# will be lost to history.
   16. flournoy Posted: December 09, 2013 at 09:03 PM (#4614747)
Not being a NY fan, I had to look up to see just who this toad is.


I just looked him up too. He actually looks more toad-like than human, coincidentally.
   17. Chip Posted: December 09, 2013 at 09:23 PM (#4614758)
Webster's Third Unabridged uses Levine's picture alongside its entry for "lickspittle."
   18. Tom Nawrocki Posted: December 09, 2013 at 09:31 PM (#4614763)
Steinbrenner is the only sports owner to host "Saturday Night Live," unless you count Wayne Gretzky.

That's all I can say in favor of him.
   19. Kurt Posted: December 09, 2013 at 09:41 PM (#4614766)
Bon Jovi.
   20. Barnaby Jones Posted: December 09, 2013 at 09:59 PM (#4614775)
and he did it with a quiet dignity that was true to the Yankee way.


That dignity is embodied in this scene.
   21. vortex of dissipation Posted: December 09, 2013 at 10:04 PM (#4614778)
Steinbrenner is the only sports owner to host "Saturday Night Live," unless you count Wayne Gretzky.

That's all I can say in favor of him.


Jeff Gordon is co-owner of Jimmie Johnson's #48 NASCAR ride.
   22. Cuban X Senators Posted: December 09, 2013 at 10:22 PM (#4614788)
Bill Murray.

Elton John.

So, he's the only one, except for the other 5. So far.
   23. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: December 09, 2013 at 10:44 PM (#4614803)
Jeff Gordon is co-owner of Jimmie Johnson's #48 NASCAR ride.


He said "sports owner" not "stupid redneck pastime owner"
   24. KT's Pot Arb Posted: December 09, 2013 at 10:45 PM (#4614805)
HOF needs a wing for those who tarnished the sport, and I nominate George as the first owners representative. Throw in Rose and anyone else ######## about getting in, and Ta Da! Problem solved.
   25. Gonfalon B. Posted: December 09, 2013 at 10:52 PM (#4614809)
SNL-hostin' sports owners:
Add Jennifer Lopez, Drew Carey, Tim McGraw, Burt Reynolds, John Candy and Justin Timberlake.
   26. Squash Posted: December 09, 2013 at 10:52 PM (#4614811)
So is Randy Levine just always furious about something?
   27. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: December 09, 2013 at 10:59 PM (#4614816)
Randy Levine has more than an outside chance of supplanting Dick Wagner as the most loathsome human being in MLB history
   28. villageidiom Posted: December 09, 2013 at 11:20 PM (#4614829)
Steinbrenner is the only sports owner to host "Saturday Night Live," unless you count Wayne Gretzky.
Didn't Michael Jordan host?
   29. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: December 10, 2013 at 12:00 AM (#4614845)
(I personally would have no objection to Steinbrenner in the Hall, as long as this was part of his plaque: "Hired John Sterling as play-by-play announcer, but don't hold that against him.")

You do know, don't you, that as a young boy Steinbrenner had pictures of Carole Lombard all over his bedroom wall?
   30. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: December 10, 2013 at 12:13 AM (#4614850)
Most colorful/successful pro sports team owner of my lifetime.

Which happened only because Fay Vincent suspended him in 1990.
   31. PreservedFish Posted: December 10, 2013 at 12:19 AM (#4614852)
Steinbrenner is the only sports owner to host "Saturday Night Live," unless you count Wayne Gretzky.

That's all I can say in favor of him.


I am going to take the opposite tact, and question whether or not this is in fact a point "in favor of him."
   32. dejarouehg Posted: December 10, 2013 at 08:50 AM (#4614899)
Levine is a nauseating human being whose perpetual fellating of Steinbrenner in unbearable, even in the afterlife.

I'll think he'll be viewed more fondly in future generations than he is now. His teams were incredibly successful and he could be incredibly generous when the spirit moved him. The stuff that we think of so much when we think of him being a buffoon; the managerial merry-go-round, the Dave Winfield stuff, the Nixon contributions, the general ############# will be lost to history.
.

He is already viewed much more fondly than he deserves. Given the revisionist history in less than just one decade, it makes you wonder how accurate historians on more important things........like everything else!

(To be fair, in terms of championships, GMS fans should give him credit for 77 and 78. Beyond that, he was merely an interference.)
   33. toratoratora Posted: December 10, 2013 at 11:03 AM (#4614961)
All of them were thoroughly deserving but I think there is no doubt that George Steinbrenner was one of the greatest figures in the history of baseball. He, more than anybody, deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. I fully expect he will be one day.”

Replace George Steinbrenner with Marvin miller and it's a 100?curate quote.

But to say this about George with Marvin on the same ballot is sheer chutzpah.
   34. tfbg9 Posted: December 10, 2013 at 11:14 AM (#4614974)
Wasn't much of the late 70's team acquired under the previous owners? And we know Georgie P. was suspended when Stick assembled the late 90's squad. The 2009 team? All evidence suggests Big Stein had dementia at that point. That leaves zero feathers in his cap, ring-wise.

Levin is the Lucchino of the NY Yankees.
   35. Bitter Mouse Posted: December 10, 2013 at 11:19 AM (#4614977)
Webster's Third Unabridged uses Levine's picture alongside its entry for "lickspittle."


Truly an underutilized word.
   36. The District Attorney Posted: December 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM (#4615027)
Levin is the Lucchino of the NY Yankees.
Yeah, exactly, the nice thing from a Yanks vs. Red Sox perspective is that these two fools balance out. I can't figure out how they're not the same exact person, really.
   37. Bitter Mouse Posted: December 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM (#4615031)
Randy Levine: Boss omission a ‘mistake’


Hey, at least he got the air quotes around mistake correct.
   38. villageidiom Posted: December 10, 2013 at 02:00 PM (#4615161)
Wasn't much of the late 70's team acquired under the previous owners?


Munson, Guidry, and Nettles were acquired under the previous owners.

Piniella, Chambliss, Tidrow, Hunter, Randolph, Rivers, Figueroa, Jackson, Torrez, Gullett, Dent, Blair, and Gossage were acquired after Steinbrenner took over. Not that he personally performed the transactions.

EDIT: Acquired players are listed roughly chronologically, not in order of importance.
   39. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: December 10, 2013 at 02:03 PM (#4615165)
Piniella, Chambliss, Tidrow, Hunter, Randolph, Rivers, Figueroa, Jackson, Torrez, Gullett, Dent, Blair, and Gossage were acquired after Steinbrenner took over. Not that he personally performed the transactions.

Well, Jackson he probably did.
   40. villageidiom Posted: December 10, 2013 at 02:19 PM (#4615189)
Levin is the Lucchino of the NY Yankees.

Yeah, exactly, the nice thing from a Yanks vs. Red Sox perspective is that these two fools balance out. I can't figure out how they're not the same exact person, really.
I will say this: ever since the Bobby Valentine fiasco, Larry Lucchino has seemed atypically quiet. Given the perception that Valentine was a Lucchino hire, if the disastrous 2012 season managed to get Lucchino to shut up about baseball operations it's a great thing.
   41. Gonfalon B. Posted: December 10, 2013 at 02:23 PM (#4615197)
Gabe Paul had to threaten to quit to stop Steinbrenner from trading Ron Guidry in May 1976. Of course, Paul also successfully opposed trading Thurman Munson, which basically means he murdered him.
   42. tfbg9 Posted: December 10, 2013 at 02:26 PM (#4615207)
Gabe Paul


Best "two first name" GM ever?
   43. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: December 10, 2013 at 02:28 PM (#4615214)
Best "two first name" GM ever?


It would be Branch Rickey, if Branch was a first name instead of a tree part or library outpost.
   44. tfbg9 Posted: December 10, 2013 at 02:30 PM (#4615221)
It would be Branch Rickey




Best "nickname last, last name first" GM ever?

   45. Publius Publicola Posted: December 10, 2013 at 02:31 PM (#4615224)
if the disastrous 2012 season managed to get Lucchino to shut up about baseball operations


If by "shut up", you mean shut out of personnel decisions, yeah. That they won immediately after his desk was moved to the proverbial janitor closet, I think, suggests he's going to stay there awhile.
   46. Publius Publicola Posted: December 10, 2013 at 05:37 PM (#4615435)
#17.

Funny, when you look up the word "toady", you find the same entry.
   47. DL from MN Posted: December 10, 2013 at 06:07 PM (#4615466)
Terry Ryan is a pretty good "two first namer"

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