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Rangers’ Joey Gallo hits 490-foot home run | MLB.com

This is a home run.

Jim Furtado Posted: September 18, 2017 at 06:57 AM | 50 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. BDC Posted: September 18, 2017 at 08:13 AM (#5533610)
And another solo, so Gallo remains just a little better than 1 HR for every 2 RBI (38/75). Batting him behind some guys who actually get on base has put that achievement at risk :)
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 09:28 AM (#5533621)
The video appears to be a Mariner popping up against the Astros.
   3. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:22 AM (#5533637)
I see Gallo launching a bomb to dead center in Los Angeles.

I'm thinking your PC auto-played the first video when you weren't looking, because the next one in line for auto-play is the Mariner popup to Correa to give the Astros the ALWest title.
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:42 AM (#5533648)
I see a video that is more than 50% advertising. 30-second ad, 28-second clip.
   5. PreservedFish Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:54 AM (#5533653)
Yes, MLB is the worst website in the world with their auto-ads.
   6. Man o' Schwar Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:01 AM (#5533659)
Now I want to see him take aim at putting one in those seats beyond the grassy knoll. It's like hitting the scoreboard at Wrigley (which I'd also like to see him try to do).
   7. Jeff Francoeur's OPS Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:01 AM (#5533660)
There's a way to just extract a link to the video by some trickery but I'm not sure how to do it.
   8. Rally Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:22 AM (#5533671)
I see a video that is more than 50% advertising. 30-second ad, 28-second clip.


(Insert mediocre 2017 free agent name)'s new 100 million dollar contract isn't going to pay itself.
   9. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:44 AM (#5533679)
And another solo, so Gallo remains just a little better than 1 HR for every 2 RBI (38/75). Batting him behind some guys who actually get on base has put that achievement at risk :)


Players with 20+ HR and fewer than 2 RBI/HR:

Kevin Maas 1990 21/41
Chris Duncan 2006 22/43
Kyle Schwarber 2017 27/52
Curtis Granderson 2016 30/59
Jedd Gyrko 2016 30/59
Eric Thames 2017 31/59
Joey Gallo 2017 38/75
Barry Bonds 2001 73/137

Seems to be a recent phenonenon.
   10. The Good Face Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:54 AM (#5533685)
Bonds' 2001 is easy to understand, he was just walked whenever there were men on base and 1B was open (and often when it wasn't). With Gallo, I wonder how much of that is a function of pitchers being much more aggressive with him when the bases are empty? Gallo swings and misses at plenty of strikes as it is, so with nobody on just pound the strike zone and take your chances. A 490 foot solo shot is still just a solo shot.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:57 AM (#5533687)
With Gallo, I wonder how much of that is a function of pitchers being much more aggressive with him when the bases are empty? Gallo swings and misses at plenty of strikes as it is, so with nobody on just pound the strike zone and take your chances. A 490 foot solo shot is still just a solo shot.

It's funny, with Judge it seems to be the opposite. He seems much more dangerous with men on. Pitchers seem to nibble with no one on base, and either walk or K him.

edit: a quick look at the stats shows the effect is there, but not huge. BB and K rate are higher with no one on, but not by much: 34.8% K vs. 27.8%, and 19.9% BB vs. 16.7%. Production is better with bases empty, though.
   12. PreservedFish Posted: September 18, 2017 at 12:05 PM (#5533688)
With Gallo, I wonder how much of that is a function of pitchers being much more aggressive with him when the bases are empty?


Well, mostly it's because he doesn't really do non-HR hits.
   13. Greg K Posted: September 18, 2017 at 12:06 PM (#5533689)
Aaron Judge splits for 2017:

Bases Empty
BB rate - 19.9%
K rate - 34.8%

Runners On
BB rate - 16.6%
K rate - 27.7%

Seems to match snapper's observations. Though I have no idea what the "natural" difference between those two states would be...intuitively I would guess that most hitters have higher walk rates with runners on. I guess I can see the other side of the argument...with runners on base hitters are more eager to get swinging and so you get fewer deep counts?

Also fun bit of trivia...Judge's 22 home runs with the bases empty have yielded him only 22 RBI! What are the odds?
   14. Cooper Nielson Posted: September 18, 2017 at 12:39 PM (#5533715)
Well, mostly it's because he doesn't really do non-HR hits.

Heh, that's kinda true:

Hits: 87

1B: 28 (32.2%)
2B: 18 (20.7%)
3B: 3 (3.4%)
HR: 38 (43.7%)

Can someone who's good with BB-Ref find anyone (let's say with 20 HR or more) with a higher percentage of his hits for home runs in a season? I just spot-checked Rob Deer and he never beat Gallo's rate, nor did he ever hit more HR than 1B in a season.
   15. Cooper Nielson Posted: September 18, 2017 at 12:45 PM (#5533718)
Can someone who's good with BB-Ref find anyone (let's say with 20 HR or more) with a higher percentage of his hits for home runs in a season?

OK, I guess I should look at the extreme seasons:

Mark McGwire: 2001: 29 (51.8%)
Barry Bonds 2001: 73 HR (46.8%)
Mark McGwire 1998: 70 HR (46.1%)
Mark McGwire 1999: 65 HR (44.8%)
Mark McGwire 2000: 32 (44.4%)

EDIT: Found another one:

Mark McGwire 1995: 39 HR (44.8%)

I did a Play Index search for HR >= 1B and though I can't see the top 10 names, I recognize the 6 seasons above, plus Gallo, then there's someone at #8 with 20 HR. Who is it?
   16. The Good Face Posted: September 18, 2017 at 12:50 PM (#5533721)
Well, mostly it's because he doesn't really do non-HR hits.


That too, but Bonds didn't do a ton of non-HR hits either, only 49 (!) singles in 2001. Pitchers aren't nearly as scared of Gallo as they were of Bonds; Gallo can be pitched to if you avoid mistakes and hit your spots. Early aughts Bonds was nigh impossible for pitchers to deal with.
   17. PreservedFish Posted: September 18, 2017 at 12:57 PM (#5533727)
Bonds is obviously a unique case because of the 100+ IBBs. The other players on that list were either scrubs with pop or leadoff hitters. Even Thames has mostly hit #2.
   18. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 18, 2017 at 01:34 PM (#5533746)
I did a Play Index search for HR >= 1B


How do you do that?
   19. PreservedFish Posted: September 18, 2017 at 01:39 PM (#5533752)
I did a Play Index search for HR >= 1B and though I can't see the top 10 names, I recognize the 6 seasons above, plus Gallo, then there's someone at #8 with 20 HR. Who is it?


You donate to BR, we found out who it is, everyone wins!
   20. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 01:47 PM (#5533758)

I did a Play Index search for HR >= 1B and though I can't see the top 10 names, I recognize the 6 seasons above, plus Gallo, then there's someone at #8 with 20 HR. Who is it?

Ryan Schimpf, last year, for SD.

How do you do that?

On the Play Index tool, you select HR >= 1.0 * 1B as one of the "Additional Criteria" -- the X > Y * Z criteria is something you can do with any number of different stats.
   21. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 01:48 PM (#5533760)
Early aughts Bonds was nigh impossible for pitchers to deal with.

Only because they refused to throw at his head. Given the armor the league stupidly let him wear, he could hang over the plate with impunity, and use his roided bulk to launch HR from anywhere in the zone.

Roger Clemens is a psycho, but was completely correct when asked how he would pitch Bonds (if the teams met in the World Series). He said, first pitch, I drill him in the head. Second time, I drill him in the head.

The only way to deal with Bonds was to pitch like a 1960's fireballer. Get him off the plate with the only pitch he still had to fear.
   22. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 18, 2017 at 01:55 PM (#5533765)
On the Play Index tool, you select HR >= 1.0 * 1B as one of the "Additional Criteria" -- the X > Y * Z criteria is something you can do with any number of different stats.


I still don't follow. I don't see that tool.
   23. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 18, 2017 at 02:07 PM (#5533774)
Roger Clemens is a psycho, but was completely correct when asked how he would pitch Bonds (if the teams met in the World Series). He said, first pitch, I drill him in the head. Second time, I drill him in the head.

The only way to deal with Bonds was to pitch like a 1960's fireballer. Get him off the plate with the only pitch he still had to fear.


There's a certain coldblooded logic to that, but what makes you think Bonds couldn't have dealt with that strategy the same way that Frank Robinson did? And what makes you think that after the second drilling, Clemens wouldn't have gotten a long suspension?
   24. Cooper Nielson Posted: September 18, 2017 at 02:07 PM (#5533775)
Ryan Schimpf, last year, for SD.

Thanks, Dave!

Wow, that was an interesting year. He almost hit more HR and doubles than singles.

Hits: 60

1B: 18 (30.0%)
2B: 17 (28.3%)
3B: 5 (8.3%)
HR: 20 (33.3%)

He's got 14 HR among his 26 hits this year (53.8%).
   25. For the Turnstiles (andeux) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 02:13 PM (#5533781)
Matt Olson now has 22 singles, 2 doubles, and 21 HR this year (only 53 games, 192 PA).
   26. Cooper Nielson Posted: September 18, 2017 at 02:27 PM (#5533788)
Rhys Hoskins is at 15 singles, 4 doubles, and 18 HR (48.6% of hits). He should cross the 20 HR plateau before the season's over. Or by Tuesday, at his rate.

Speaking of HR rate, what ever happened to Mike Moustakas and the KC record?! He was supposed to blow past Balboni, yet right now he's still sitting tied with him at 36. He hit his 35th on Aug. 15, and his 36th on Sept. 1. Nothing since then. That's 1 HR in 27 games.
   27. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 02:32 PM (#5533794)
There's a certain coldblooded logic to that, but what makes you think Bonds couldn't have dealt with that strategy the same way that Frank Robinson did? And what makes you think that after the second drilling, Clemens wouldn't have gotten a long suspension?

Nobody prior to Bonds was allowed to hang over the plate like he did. If the pitchers weren't afraid to throw at his head, he couldn't have executed his strategy.

You're right that the league would have suspended him. But the league was at fault throughout by allowing Bonds to wear armor. If he didn't have armore, pitchers could have brushed him back in a safe manner.
   28. simon bedford Posted: September 18, 2017 at 02:39 PM (#5533801)
"wore armor" on the arm that got shattered by a pitch right?
you know that Bonds was more than capable of going full Dave Winfield on Nolan Ryan on Clemens? its a strategy that would have ended with one of them beaten up and my money was on bonds cleaning clemens clock for him.
   29. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 02:59 PM (#5533814)
"wore armor" on the arm that got shattered by a pitch right?

Irrelevent. He wore it way past the time it was healed.

you know that Bonds was more than capable of going full Dave Winfield on Nolan Ryan on Clemens? its a strategy that would have ended with one of them beaten up and my money was on bonds cleaning clemens clock for him.

Sure, but not if Clemens connected with a fastball to his face.
   30. simon bedford Posted: September 18, 2017 at 03:05 PM (#5533819)
i dont think deliberately trying to injure another player is going to work , Greg Maddux had a better quote and idea "You walk Barry. Just walk him."
   31. PreservedFish Posted: September 18, 2017 at 03:07 PM (#5533821)
snapper, why you so gullible? Clemens and Bonds were in the same league for 3 years. The bigly testicled Texan walked him 5 times in 8 PAs.
   32. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 18, 2017 at 03:10 PM (#5533826)
If the pitchers weren't afraid to throw at his head, he couldn't have executed his strategy.

It wasn't necessarily that they were afraid, I would guess. They might just have realized it would probably not have reached its target. As far as I know, NASA has never sent any vehicles to test the atmospheric conditions of Bonds' head, but you'd have to assume there was a significant chance that an approaching projectile would at least mostly burn up before impact. Or, depending upon its entrance velocity, it might just start orbiting harmlessly (granted, less of an issue for someone who threw as hard as Clemens). All in all, I'd put the odds of a pitched ball actually colliding with Bonds' head at roughly 1 in 300,000.
   33. PreservedFish Posted: September 18, 2017 at 03:20 PM (#5533832)
The Barry Bonds vs pitcher numbers are really something. He has a perfect record (1.000/1.000/4.000) against 20-25 pitchers. Most of them are guys nobody's heard of that he saw once and touched for a homer. He faced Guillermo Mota the most times while retaining OPS perfection - 9 plate appearances, 8 walks, 1 homerun.
   34. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 03:34 PM (#5533844)
The bigly testicled Texan walked him 5 times in 8 PAs


That's 'The Icy Hotted Testicled Texan'...cmon get it straight.
   35. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 03:35 PM (#5533846)
snapper, why you so gullible? Clemens and Bonds were in the same league for 3 years. The bigly testicled Texan walked him 5 times in 8 PAs.

I said he was right, not that he actually did it.
   36. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 04:43 PM (#5533880)

I still don't follow. I don't see that tool.


Go to "Play Index". Then go to "Batting Season Finder" or "Pitching Season Finder". Look under "Additional Criteria" on the right hand side of the page. The last row under that category says "[Choose (drop down menu)] [>= (drop down menu)] [1.0 (text box)] * [Choose (drop down menu]". You make your selections there and click "Get Results" like you would for any other Play Index search.
   37. Omineca Greg Posted: September 18, 2017 at 05:28 PM (#5533900)
Or, depending upon its entrance velocity, it might just start orbiting harmlessly...


Yep, the 'ole Barry Bonds Barycenter paradox rears its ugly head again.

Actually, it works better as a GIF. Sorry, I tried to find one that was less elliptical...but no dice.
   38. Walt Davis Posted: September 18, 2017 at 05:29 PM (#5533901)
It would be nice if that P-I tool let you create your own stat rather than as a condition. When you do that type of search you get everybody who meets the criteria (hooray) but you still have to do your own math to figure out who had the highest rate. That is, it would be nice to have a "sort by X/Y" style box.

On the "natural" state of things, it's generally that a good hitter's walk rate spikes with men on but first base open. "Good" is obviously vague and it may not hold for your super-free swingers (but it probably does). And of course a reasonable chunk of that walk rate spike will be IBB.

Bonds was extreme and it started long before he was launching 70 HRs or crowding the plate. For his career, with -2-, he walked 512 times in 1204 PA, 2/3 of them intentional. It started with 18 BB (9 IBB) in 54 PA in his 3rd year. The next year it was 22/16 in 57. In year 5, they were silly enough to pitch to him with just 13/9 in 55 and he hit 405/545/738 and that was pretty much the last season they didn't walk him at least 40% of the time in that situation. It hit it's insane peak in 2004 when he was walked 57 times in 74 PA, 52 of them intentional.

For --3 he walked about 1/3 of the time; for -23 he walked about 55% of the time with 139 of 153 walks intentional. I'm sure some of those intentional walks were of the "give him a couple to see if he swings then walk him if it's 2-0." In 1993, he had 21 PA with -23, was intentionally walked 17 times. In his 4 AB he hit a HR for the fun line of 250/857/1000. Over his last 80 PAs at -23, he walked 67 times, 63 intentional. In those 13 AB, he was just 4 for 11 with 3 doubles, a RoE and a SF.

But back to humans ... Matt Holliday (generic very good hitter) has 117 BB in 739 PA with -2- with 28 intentional. With nobody on, it's 372 in nearly 4100. With 1--, it's 133 in 1566. So nearly 16% at -2-, 8.5% at 1-- and 9.1% at ---. A bit more than half of that jump at -2- is the intentional walks but I think it's pretty clear most of the others are "discretionary" walks.

Todd Frazier (generic average hitter with some pop), he's 11.3% at -2-, 6.5% at 1-- and 7.8% at ---, only 1% of that -2- bump is intentional.

AL 2017 is 12.8% at -2- with 1.9% of that intentional; 7.1% at 1-- and 7.9% at ---.

With HRs replacing singles, you'd think it might reduce the incentive to pitch super carefully with men in scoring position and increase the incentive with a man on first and bring a bit more balance.
   39. Walt Davis Posted: September 18, 2017 at 05:56 PM (#5533922)
As to the man in the headline, he's amazingly having a quite productive year with a 124 OPS+ and the high walk rate letting him be above-average in OBP too. Years ago I got into a discussion with ... Rany or Voros I think ... or maybe I was just reacting to an article. Anyway, somebody claimed that one day in the future, it would be possible to be productive with a 40% K-rate but that was probably the limit. I scoffed. Well, Gallo's showing how it could be done with his 36% K-rate. And as a solid 3B, you don't need a 124 OPS+ to be average.

His on-contact BA is not extreme at 369 -- that's high but nowhere near unsustainably high. The 953 on-contact SLG is "unsustainably" high but we just might be living in a new era where 900 or 850 is sustainable. That would translate to about 195/450 or 195/475 at a 40% K-rate (or technically a 47.5% K/AB rate) ... add in Gallo's walks and it's about a 320 OBP. That's playable ... as long as you can stand that sort of 2 RBI per HR pace.

On RBI/HR, there's Chris Hoiles -- 20 HR and 40 RBI in 1992 before all this craziness began. With a line of 274/384/506, 147 OPS+ as a catcher followed the next year by 310/416/585, 162 OPS+, we'd have been creaming our shorts even if he was 28 already. He remained a good hitter for a C and put up 24 WAR, 12 WAA in about 6 full catching seasons worth of PA.
   40. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 18, 2017 at 05:56 PM (#5533923)
Go to "Play Index". Then go to "Batting Season Finder" or "Pitching Season Finder". Look under "Additional Criteria" on the right hand side of the page. The last row under that category says "[Choose (drop down menu)] [>= (drop down menu)] [1.0 (text box)] * [Choose (drop down menu]". You make your selections there and click "Get Results" like you would for any other Play Index search.


OK, but that option isn't activated until you fill in the first 4. Do you make up bogus searches for those?

edit: OK, it finally worked. P-I is pretty wonky. Frequently I cannot access features like searching by position. I got it to work now, unlike a earlier when it simply would not allow me to put in any data. #8 is Ryan Schrimpf, 2016 padres. Yeah, I've never heard of him either.
   41. Walt Davis Posted: September 18, 2017 at 07:10 PM (#5533973)
Never hear of Ryan Schimpf? C'mon, that 2016 is an all-time classic line! (the only reason I'd ever noticed Schimpf).

From my experience, P-I is generally only wonky after you've run one table, realized you needed to specify some other criterion (like forgetting about PAs) then hit the back button ... or try the show/hide search form and add a new criterion. Often this doesn't work at all (all the criteria boxes are grayed out) or it (kinda) goes back to single season mode from combined season mode or you seem to have lost your positional criteria. (Note, they seem to still be applied, it just looks like they've been unclicked.) Sometimes that stuff gets cleared up by clicking single season then combined seasons again. Or maybe it's must my browser/laptop combo that mucks that stuff up. Anyway, sometimes (certainly more often than I like) I just have to click back on the main P-I tab and load a new blank template and specify everything again.
   42. Booey Posted: September 18, 2017 at 07:30 PM (#5533991)
But the league was at fault throughout by allowing Bonds to wear armor.


Seems silly to me for the league to restrict armor. Batters shouldn't be allowed to protect themselves from injury? That doesn't seem any different than banning helmets or athletic cups. Just call the HBP a strike if their elbow is over the plate.

WRT Bonds specifically, he wasn't sticking his padded elbow over the plate to draw HBP like Biggio was. Why bother when they were probably going to give him first base in a less painful way anyway? He also grew noticeably frustrated with all the walks. It wasn't something he was doing on purpose.
   43. DaVoice of DaPeople Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:21 PM (#5534103)

Speaking of HR rate, what ever happened to Mike Moustakas and the KC record?! He was supposed to blow past Balboni, yet right now he's still sitting tied with him at 36. He hit his 35th on Aug. 15, and his 36th on Sept. 1. Nothing since then. That's 1 HR in 27 games.

He's been playing hurt--some injury to his legs. It pains me to watch him limp around the bases and in the field. I hope he's not doing any long-term damage in this (gutty and foolish) effort to keep KC's dim postseason hopes alive.
   44. DaVoice of DaPeople Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:28 PM (#5534109)
MLB.com article on Moose:

CLEVELAND -- Royals third baseman Mike Moustakas has been hobbled by a right knee injury for weeks, but he continues to grind his way through the discomfort and play regularly.

Moustakas said he does so for one reason: His teammates.

"It's one of those things that if I could get three or four or five days, it'd be great," Moustakas said. "But I can't afford to do it right now. We're still in this. We're in the mix. It's not just me who is hurting out there. It's just more noticeable with me because it's a knee injury.

"[Eric Hosmer] isn't a 100 percent. Sal [Salvador Perez] is not 100 percent. LoLo [Lorenzo Cain] is not 100 percent. If you are 100 percent right now, we need to do some talking. We've played a lot baseball."

(...)
But Moustakas, who last homered on Sept. 1 at Minnesota, said the injury has affected his front leg, the plant leg, on his swing.

"I feel it a little swinging," he said. "It's hard to get on [the leg] and snap off it. That's the leg I try to snap off with. Lately, I can feel myself get to my front side and just [drift] through a little bit. It looks like I'm trying to pull everything, but I'm not.

"So we've been trying to work on some things to help me stay back and go the other way a little more. I just think it's more mechanical than physical right now."
   45. Walt Davis Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:05 PM (#5534128)
I don't know when the injury occurred, but over the last 4 weeks he's hitting 202/280/298 with 5 GDP -- he ain't helping anybody.

EDIT: Over his last 9 games, 107/219/107. Before that it was a tolerable 250/311/393 so it could just be a very ill-timed slump. Still, the manager should give (have given) him more time off -- he got two games in late Aug (one he PH'd in) then yesterday.
   46. manchestermets Posted: September 19, 2017 at 06:48 AM (#5534184)
Sure, but not if Clemens connected with a fastball to his face.


Just like Jesus would have done, hey?
   47. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 19, 2017 at 06:59 AM (#5534185)
Whipping money-lenders, beaning steroid-takers, he was a complicated man.
   48. simon bedford Posted: September 19, 2017 at 08:28 AM (#5534194)
Bonds would simply turn the other cheek..clemens is obviously the one casting the first stone in snappers passion play .
   49. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:47 AM (#5534289)
snapper deserves a fastball in the face.
   50. Voodoo Posted: September 19, 2017 at 08:47 PM (#5534759)

Roger Clemens is a psycho, but was completely correct when asked how he would pitch Bonds (if the teams met in the World Series). He said, first pitch, I drill him in the head. Second time, I drill him in the head.


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