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Sunday, March 23, 2014

Rangers’ Jurickson Profar out up to 3 months with torn shoulder muscle

More bad news on the injury front for the Texas Rangers: Second baseman Jurickson Profar will miss the next 10 to 12 weeks after an MRI revealed a torn right shoulder muscle. The team announced that surgery will not be required.

As T.R. Sullivan notes, Josh Wilson and Brent Lillibridge are two internal candidates to replace Profar at second.

The 21-year-old Profar is coming off a 2013 season in which he batted .234/.308/.336 in 324 plate appearances at the MLB level. Coming up through the Rangers system, he was regularly regarded as one of the top prospects in baseball, and obviously his performance ceiling remains quite high.

Thanks to Gene C.

Repoz Posted: March 23, 2014 at 06:53 PM | 46 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: March 23, 2014 at 06:58 PM (#4675907)
Bummer. He was one of the players I was looking forward to watching this year. Seemed like a great breakout candidate.
   2. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 23, 2014 at 07:43 PM (#4675911)
Just sign Stephen Drew!
   3. BDC Posted: March 23, 2014 at 07:45 PM (#4675914)
If I were Ian Kinsler, I'd figure this was just one more step toward 0-162 :)
   4. Walt Davis Posted: March 23, 2014 at 07:51 PM (#4675915)
That sucks.

Could I interest you in a nearly-new Darwin Barney?

In contrast to other candidates you might be considering, he's gotten used to losing so he won't gripe about 0-162.
   5. Bug Selig Posted: March 23, 2014 at 07:52 PM (#4675916)
If I were Ian Kinsler, I'd figure this was just one more step toward 0-162 :)


If I were Ian Kinsler, I'd be wondering why my new GM thinks you have to purge yourself of every starting pitcher that's not nailed down.
   6. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: March 23, 2014 at 09:36 PM (#4675941)
Wow, and the Boras influence even reaches to this level! First the known Jeter age/range issue. Then Iglesias and now Profur, is there any way that Drew remains unsigned for another 3 days? Are they holding for something like 3/40? This is ridiculous.

Agree with sentiments above though, bummer for Texas and was looking forward to seeing him go a full season.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: March 23, 2014 at 09:56 PM (#4675947)
is there any way that Drew remains unsigned for another 3 days?

At this point ... as I understand it, if Drew waits until after opening day, then they can't make him a QO so, unless somebody wants to give him a multi-year or a premium one-year, he just needs to wait a couple of weeks.

Lots of variables for both sides in that equation -- how much would it be worth to one of these teams to convince him to sign now and vice versa. If he performed well enough to get a QO next year, that could possibly cost him a few million. So if he figures he can get, say, $9 M after opening day, he might require $12 M to sign 2 weeks before. That's not worth it to the team in terms of those 2 weeks but it might be worth it if it guarantees he'll play for you this year, not one of the other teams. I've got no idea where the break-even point would be for either side.
   8. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: March 23, 2014 at 10:47 PM (#4675962)
Haven't we already had opening day? Couldn't he sign now without fear of a draft pick being awarded?
   9. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 23, 2014 at 11:23 PM (#4675973)
Ugh. Too many injuries this offseason.

With that said, the braves would listen on Dan Uggla.
   10. Dan Posted: March 23, 2014 at 11:36 PM (#4675979)
Haven't we already had opening day? Couldn't he sign now without fear of a draft pick being awarded?


I imagine it would work that way if he signed with the Dodgers or the Dbacks, but no one else has had their Opening Day yet.
   11. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: March 24, 2014 at 12:38 AM (#4675988)
Odor injured as well, so he's not an option now.
   12. Drexl Spivey Posted: March 24, 2014 at 12:46 AM (#4675991)
Haven't we already had opening day? Couldn't he sign now without fear of a draft pick being awarded?


No. It's after the June draft, not opening day.
   13. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:53 AM (#4675998)
Odor injured as well, so he's not an option now.

That stinks!
   14. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: March 24, 2014 at 07:57 AM (#4676008)
Ugh. Too many injuries this offseason.

I blame the WBC.
   15. just plain joe Posted: March 24, 2014 at 08:36 AM (#4676015)
Odor injured as well, so he's not an option now.

That stinks!


I see what you did there.
   16. BDC Posted: March 24, 2014 at 09:39 AM (#4676045)
I don't see any news of an Odor injury. What's wrong with him?

Odor has only played 30 games even as high as AA anyway. If there were ever a legitimate case for "more seasoning" it's him. Still, if he's OK, and Brent Lillibridge or whoever is batting .119 in mid- May with Profar still laid up, it may well become Odor time.
   17. SG Posted: March 24, 2014 at 10:37 AM (#4676079)
Does this mean Adam Rosales as the starting 2B to begin the year?
   18. BDC Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:09 AM (#4676099)
Josh Wilson

On a "duh" note, I was in a sporting-goods store in Arlington last weekend and saw these Ranger jerseys: WILSON 3. I thought, CJ's been gone for a while, and he didn't wear 3. Is Josh Wilson really so popular that his shirts are in stores? It was a couple of days before I remembered Russell Wilson.
   19. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM (#4676105)
Orioles just traded Alex Gonzalez to the Tigers for Steve Lombardozzi. Maybe they could flip Lombardozzi to the Rangers for something.
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:29 AM (#4676106)
Orioles just traded Alex Gonzalez to the Tigers for Steve Lombardozzi. Maybe they could flip Lombardozzi to the Rangers for something.

Is this one of the original 2 Alex Gonzali, or is there a 3rd?
   21. BDC Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:32 AM (#4676107)
That wouldn't be a bad nickname (or BBTF handle): Flip Lombardozzi.
   22. JJ1986 Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:35 AM (#4676108)
Is this one of the original 2 Alex Gonzali, or is there a 3rd?


There is a third (Rangers pitcher), but this is one of the originals.
   23. The District Attorney Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM (#4676110)
On a "duh" note, I was in a sporting-goods store in Arlington last weekend and saw these Ranger jerseys: WILSON 3. I thought, CJ's been gone for a while, and he didn't wear 3. Is Josh Wilson really so popular that his shirts are in stores? It was a couple of days before I remembered Russell Wilson.
And I believe I saw news items to the effect that those jerseys were selling very well.

Why, I don't know, since most people aren't aware that Russell Wilson has any affiliation with the Rangers, so like you, they would be wondering "who the hell is that supposed to be?" and/or wondering if your own name is Wilson. If Wilson were screwing around in Mariner (or even Brewer) spring training, that would make more sense.
   24. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM (#4676114)
The Marlins Alex Gonzalez. Orioles signed him to a minor league deal I think.
   25. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM (#4676115)
Is Roughned Odor ready? I've read a lot of people that seem to think he'll be the option.

The Royals have Johnny Giavotella wasting away - I doubt he even makes the team. He could be an option and I doubt the Royals want much in return.
   26. BDC Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM (#4676121)
Is Roughned Odor ready?

As I said above, he's really good, but less experienced than Profar. He has trouble with certain guys who throw hard and high in the strike zone. Mike Maddux refers to such pitchers as "Odor Eaters."
   27. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM (#4676127)
Could I interest you in a nearly-new Darwin Barney?


FWIW, if the Rangers need some emergency 2B depth, the Giants just released Tony Abreu, and Kevin Frandsen can still decline his outright assignment and declare free agency for another day or so. Neither of those guys are world-beaters, but you could certainly do worse.
   28. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: March 24, 2014 at 12:50 PM (#4676161)
Roughned is "Roogie" to his teammates.
   29. JRVJ Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:31 PM (#4676186)
I was on a cruise ship that visited the ABC islands (Aruba - Bonaire - Curacao), and can state that there's a lovely ball park right off of the cruise ship terminal in Profar's native Curacao (Otramanga in Willemsted).

And in Aruba, I saw Xander Bogerts field.

That is all.
   30. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 24, 2014 at 01:41 PM (#4676191)
The amount of baseball talent as a % of population in Curacao has to be off the charts.
   31. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 24, 2014 at 03:00 PM (#4676267)
MLB Depth Charts lists Texas's starting second baseman as Kensuke Tanaka, who I've never heard of before.
   32. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 03:26 PM (#4676299)
MLB Depth Charts lists Texas's starting second baseman as Kensuke Tanaka, who I've never heard of before.


He's a longtime NPB player who came over to the US last year, and spent most of the season with San Francisco's AAA affiliate. He's a good contact hitter and he runs OK, but he has basically no power at all, and for some reason he spent a good part of 2013 in left field.
   33. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 03:44 PM (#4676313)
   34. Walt Davis Posted: March 24, 2014 at 05:16 PM (#4676407)
<i>No. It's after the June draft, not opening day.<i>

No. The draft pick compensation disappears after the June draft. But no player signed (or traded) after opening day is subject to a QO at the end of the season. Therefore it makes no sense for Drew to sign until after opening day unless a team is willing to pay a premium.

Whether it makes sense for the team to surrender a draft pick by signing Drew between now and the draft is a different question.
   35. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: March 24, 2014 at 05:44 PM (#4676438)
The amount of baseball talent as a % of population in Curacao has to be off the charts.

Percentage of the population to get at least 1 PA in MLB in 2013:

Curacao     0.0032731081%
DR          0.0010269679%
Puerto Rico 0.0004363140%
Venezuela   0.0002591023%
USA         0.0002146368%
Panama      0.0001638896%
Cuba        0.0001522298%
Canada      0.0000426645

(Places of birth from BBRef, populations from Wikipedia.)

I'd say three times the Dominican Republic's rate is pretty good.
   36. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 24, 2014 at 05:47 PM (#4676441)
And that's with Schoop only getting a handful of PAs last year. He'll probably get 400-500 this year.
   37. tshipman Posted: March 24, 2014 at 06:32 PM (#4676482)
Two things:
1. There's a human being named Roughned Odor. So ... yeah. Great baseball name. Truly top notch. What was his second choice of profession? Taxidermist? Pro-Wrestler?
2. I get the feeling that Jurickson Profar is going to disappoint everyone. He's been a "big name" for so long, and it seems like those guys rarely make it (especially for their first team). Dallas McCutcheon, Mark Prior, Delmon Young, etc.
   38. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 06:51 PM (#4676494)
And that's with Schoop only getting a handful of PAs last year. He'll probably get 400-500 this year.

That won't change the % getting >=1 PA
   39. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 07:31 PM (#4676525)
Dallas McCutcheon


McPherson. Not trying to be a dick, just trying to help clarify because I was genuinely confused there for a second.
   40. tshipman Posted: March 24, 2014 at 07:34 PM (#4676527)
McPherson. Not trying to be a dick, just trying to help clarify because I was genuinely confused there for a second.


Thank you for the correction. I looked at it twice, then hit submit. I should have checked.
   41. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 24, 2014 at 08:11 PM (#4676544)
2. I get the feeling that Jurickson Profar is going to disappoint everyone. He's been a "big name" for so long, and it seems like those guys rarely make it (especially for their first team). Dallas McCutcheon, Mark Prior, Delmon Young, etc.

This seems unfair to Profar - the guy's only 21 years old.

That's a pretty weird list --

McPherson was 23 before he showed up on the BA top prospect list, and peaked at #12 on the list
Prior "made it" - was an All Star and Cy Young candidate at 22 and then got injured
Delmon Young - probably the only real example of what you're talking about on that list

On the other end of the spectrum you have someone like Adrian Gonzalez - #1 overall draft pick, on the top prospect lists for a number of years, two organizations traded him (for Ugueth Urbina and Adam Eaton, essentially) and he became a perennial All Star. Just a slightly late bloomer.
   42. Walt Davis Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:12 PM (#4676599)
Percentage of the population to get at least 1 PA in MLB in 2013:

Pitchers don't count? :-)

7 Curacao out of 153,000 pop ... so 1 in 22,000 were in the majors in 2013. Of course that would mean they no longer qualify as usually resident in Curacao so we're double-counting. :-)

In Oz it's about 1 in 6 M.
   43. Walt Davis Posted: March 24, 2014 at 11:20 PM (#4676601)
On Profar "disappointing" ... I was thinking of saying the same thing. I am basing it more on over-expectations placed on top prospects but also a bit on last year's not awesome performance (just 20 I know) and now he's out for half-a-season. It will likely take him time to regain form late this year even if his recovery is on schedule so his age 21 season is likely a "lost" one. He's already been moved off SS (whether he could handle it or not).

Depending on how well he recovers, how well the Rangers do this year, in- and off-season moves, it's not beyond the realm that he starts 2015 back in the minors. Then he'd be a 22-year-old minor-league 2B. And it doesn't help his "disappointment" avoidance that Trout, Harper, maybe Buxton, etc. will be running around putting up ridiculous numbers at his ages. He could go on to be Brandon Phillips and I think many folks would still be "disappointed."

He could also become the next Robin Yount. Kids!
   44. BDC Posted: March 25, 2014 at 09:24 AM (#4676668)
The scenario that Rangers fans don't want to relive is Benji Gil :)

Though Benji is a popular guy who really loves baseball, and has recently resurfaced as a Spanish-language broadcaster for Texas. I suppose Profar could get a gig on the Curaçao Network.
   45. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 25, 2014 at 09:40 AM (#4676676)
That won't change the % getting >=1 PA

Oops...you're right. Misread the original post.
   46. attaboy Posted: March 25, 2014 at 09:48 AM (#4676677)
it's not beyond the realm that he starts 2015 back in the minors.

Why? I mean, anything is possible but that would be very strange!

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