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Wednesday, July 03, 2013

Rangers sign Manny Ramirez to minor league contract

MannyBeingManny continues…

The Rangers have signed outfielder/DH Manny Ramirez to a minor league contract, the team announced. He will report to the club’s Triple-A affiliate and work out for a few days before being officially activated. Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports Ramirez will earn $500,000 pro-rated at the big league level and has agreed to cut his hair.

Manny, 41, opted out of his contract with the EDA Rhinos of the Chinese Professional Baseball League last month in an effort to find a job in MLB. He was said to have an offer on the table from a team in Japan, but obviously that never materialized….

n 49 games with the Rhinos, Ramirez hit .352/.422/.555 with eight home runs and more walks (23) than strikeouts (21) in 206 plate appearances. He has not played in MLB since 2011, when he appeared in five games with the Rays before being suspended 100 games for a second failed drug test. The suspension was cut in half after he sat out the remainder of the season.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 03, 2013 at 05:07 PM | 50 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: chinese professional baseball league, japan, manny ramirez, peds, rangers

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   1. Walt Davis Posted: July 03, 2013 at 06:08 PM (#4484360)
Wow! I did not see this coming. It's hard to believe the excerpt is true -- a few days workout then he'll be on the 25-man?
   2. Srul Itza Posted: July 03, 2013 at 06:13 PM (#4484362)
Why not? I have to assume he is going to DH, and Manny is one of the few that I truly believe could roll out of bed in the middle of winter, head off to a game in a warm clime, and immediately start roping line drives.

Just look at Taiwan as a very long spring training, and here he comes.
   3. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: July 03, 2013 at 06:16 PM (#4484365)
I submitted a link to the story on the Dallas Morning News site. Echoing Walt that I'm shocked by this. I don't care if he can't hit AAA pitching any more. I'm just glad he's with the Rangers to find out.
   4. SG Posted: July 03, 2013 at 06:18 PM (#4484369)
Wow! I did not see this coming. It's hard to believe the excerpt is true -- a few days workout then he'll be on the 25-man?


Reads to me like he'd be activated in AAA after a few days of workouts, not the 25 man roster.
   5. JRVJ Posted: July 03, 2013 at 06:26 PM (#4484377)
I would love for Manny to get a cup of coffee, because that would push back his HoF due date (and take one variable out of the many, many Doomsday Ballotgeddon scenarios).
   6. Gamingboy Posted: July 03, 2013 at 06:28 PM (#4484378)
(Smiles, prepares popcorn... just in case he somehow makes it to the show.)
   7. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: July 03, 2013 at 06:38 PM (#4484384)
In before the thread turns into a dark pit of PED arguments.

Also, I agree with #2; Manny always strikes me as a guy who steps up to the plate and just hits, no matter what else is going on around him.
   8. The Fallen Reputation of Billy Jo Robidoux Posted: July 03, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4484390)
I had half-wished the Brewers would try him at 1B. Alas.
   9. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: July 03, 2013 at 07:03 PM (#4484396)
The White Sox hired Jim Thome for a front office job yesterday. Thome is now the best hitter the White Sox employ. Robin Ventura might be second.
   10. cardsfanboy Posted: July 03, 2013 at 07:08 PM (#4484400)
This is awesome. Who doesn't like Manny?
   11. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 03, 2013 at 07:26 PM (#4484410)
[8] He stopped hitting after the first PED suspension.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: July 03, 2013 at 07:27 PM (#4484411)
Also, I agree with #2; Manny always strikes me as a guy who steps up to the plate and just hits, no matter what else is going on around him.

5 years ago sure but there have not been many able to do that at 41. Manny has not done it since 2010.

But #4 is probably right. I'm still stunned an MLB team was willing to take him on.
   13. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: July 03, 2013 at 07:57 PM (#4484429)

I like that CBS Sports is citing OPS+ now.

I have to think that a .352/.422/.555 line in Taiwan does not translate very well to MLB, sorry to say.

I don't think Manny is going to be much of a factor in the HOF balloting regardless of when he become eligible. The writers are still hung up on guys who were never even caught cheating.
   14. vivaelpujols Posted: July 03, 2013 at 08:30 PM (#4484443)
I'm still hoping Barrold gets another chance.
   15. The District Attorney Posted: July 03, 2013 at 08:57 PM (#4484469)
Manny doesn't even have to play to help the team. He worked with Jose Iglesias in the offseason, and now Iglesias is the next Luke Appling.
   16. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: July 03, 2013 at 09:06 PM (#4484482)
A delightful disaster! A disastrous delight!
   17. Ray (RDP) Posted: July 03, 2013 at 09:08 PM (#4484485)
Predictions? Let's assume 200 PA.

I'll go with .250/.350/.350 with 4 HR for a 93 OPS+.

Of course, I'd love for him to come back and hit .300/.400/.450 for a 125 OPS+. Unfortunately, I just don't see it. (It's an age thing, not a steroids thing. He's been out of MLB for almost 3 years.)

Is there precedent for a hitter coming back at age 41 after missing ages 39 and 40? Forget about how he performed.
   18. vivaelpujols Posted: July 03, 2013 at 09:12 PM (#4484490)
I'll go 110 OPS+
   19. Ray (RDP) Posted: July 03, 2013 at 09:12 PM (#4484491)
BP's 2013 projection for him is .269 with 9 HR in 250 PA for a .299 TAv.

90th percentile is 313/421/528 = .340 TAv.

50th percentile is 268/369/452 = .298 TAv.

10th percentile is 226/317/380 = .257 TAv.

So I guess my prediction of 250/350/350 falls somewhere around their 10th percentile projection. I just don't see him hitting for power. I see a lot of walks, but a low BA. Of course, he _might_ luck into a high BABIP and hit for a higher average.
   20. depletion Posted: July 03, 2013 at 09:15 PM (#4484496)
This is awesome. Who doesn't like Manny?

Did he ever apologize for pushing the Sox elderly clubhouse guy to the floor?
   21. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: July 03, 2013 at 09:17 PM (#4484497)

He's more likely to get 0 MLB PAs than he is to get 200, but if he does, my guess is more like .250/.300/.350. I don't think he'll walk as much as he did at his peak once pitchers realize they can challenge him.
   22. Ray (RDP) Posted: July 03, 2013 at 09:19 PM (#4484502)
I'm thinking a lot of walks because IIRC that's what happens to hitters who reach the cliff.
   23. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: July 03, 2013 at 09:47 PM (#4484523)
Is there precedent for a hitter coming back at age 41 after missing ages 39 and 40? Forget about how he performed.

Didn't Julio Franco have a decent run of several seasons starting around age 58 after bouncing around Mexico, Japan, and Korea in his mid-50's?
   24. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: July 03, 2013 at 10:21 PM (#4484555)
Franco was a little less than a regular at age 38 for the Indians and Brewers in '97, playing 120 games. The next three years he played primarily in, respectively, Japan, Mexico and Korea. In 2001, after hitting .437/.497/.678 in the Mexican League at age 42, the Braves brought him back. In 2004, at age 45 (!) he played 125 games at put up a 111 OPS+.

So I suppose it's not totally insane that Manny could come back and hit. Still, you'd have to think someone like Franco is the exception rather than the rule.
   25. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 03, 2013 at 10:39 PM (#4484569)
Of course, I'd love for him to come back and hit .300/.400/.450 for a 125 OPS+. Unfortunately, I just don't see it. (It's an age thing, not a steroids thing. He's been out of MLB for almost 3 years.)


This is how I feel though I'm more pessmistic than you. I think that 10th percentile from #20 is probably the likeliest thing. Man I'd love to see him light it up though.
   26. Guapo Posted: July 03, 2013 at 10:43 PM (#4484571)
Manny dont you go and cut your hair
Do you think it's gonna make him change?

#pavementthread
   27. Ray (RDP) Posted: July 03, 2013 at 10:56 PM (#4484588)
There was a discussion at the time about Franco, which was, basically, why Franco? Could it have been predicted when he was 30 that HE would be the one who could hang around until 50? Can anything be gleaned from his record in hindsight? I don't see what.

At the time I predicted that Miguel Cairo would be the unexpected next player to hang around well into his 40s, but, sadly, he doesn't seem to be rostered this year.
   28. Ray (RDP) Posted: July 03, 2013 at 10:59 PM (#4484591)
And if Manny hits to his 10th percentile in his first 100 PAs, he's not going to get the next 100.

(Of course, I also think he'll start in the minors -- and he'll need to hit his way to the majors from there.)
   29. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: July 03, 2013 at 11:20 PM (#4484613)
If Franco wasn't the exception, you'd have a lot of 40 year olds in the majors. Incredible career, with over 800 hits in the minors and other than the major leagues.

One of the more pathetic sights will be Manny failing yet another drug test. Did the Rangers GM lose a bet?
   30. vortex of dissipation Posted: July 04, 2013 at 01:32 AM (#4484687)
At the time I predicted that Miguel Cairo would be the unexpected next player to hang around well into his 40s, but, sadly, he doesn't seem to be rostered this year.


He's helping out as the third base coach for the Reds while Mark Barry is undergoing cancer treatment.
   31. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: July 04, 2013 at 02:35 AM (#4484698)
Predictions? Let's assume 200 PA.


I don't think he sees 200 PA, but if the Rangers have a sudden rash of injuries and he hangs around as a DH/PH:

.224/.290/.320

   32. puck Posted: July 04, 2013 at 02:45 AM (#4484702)
Did he also offer to take up chewing tobacco?
   33. Ray (RDP) Posted: July 04, 2013 at 02:51 AM (#4484703)
I have to assume he is going to DH, and Manny is one of the few that I truly believe could roll out of bed in the middle of winter, head off to a game in a warm clime, and immediately start roping line drives.


I used to think that about Gary Sheffield, but then we saw him drop off at 37 and have a 90 OPS+ season at 39.
   34. Honkie Kong Posted: July 04, 2013 at 04:13 AM (#4484712)
I used to think that about Gary Sheffield, but then we saw him drop off at 37 and have a 90 OPS+ season at 39.

Thats a really odd statement, given that he put up a 119 OPS+ at age 40 ( incidentally his age 38 performance too ).
Cherries, they were picked.
   35. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: July 04, 2013 at 05:44 AM (#4484713)
Shouldn't it be easier to hammer a pitcher who rolled out of bed in the middle of winter?

Unless it was Bartolo Colon rolling out of bed; then you'd have a potential "Raiders of the Lost Ark" situation.
   36. Ray (RDP) Posted: July 04, 2013 at 08:24 AM (#4484724)
Thats a really odd statement, given that he put up a 119 OPS+ at age 40 ( incidentally his age 38 performance too ).
Cherries, they were picked.


Of course I cherry picked. That was the entire point: that Sheffield couldn't just hit all the time, every time.
   37. TerpNats Posted: July 04, 2013 at 11:19 AM (#4484784)
This is awesome. Who doesn't like Manny?
Well, I believe the Rangers have already played in Cleveland and Boston, and they're not scheduled to visit Dodger Stadium this year, so the answer is, no one Texas will visit for the remainder of the season. That doesn't mean home team fans can't laugh at him, however.
   38. The District Attorney Posted: July 04, 2013 at 11:29 AM (#4484786)
Are we sure fans in those first two cities dislike Manny?

Boston fans would probably boo him if he were raking as the Rangers' cleanup hitter, but in his current state, I bet they'd be nice to him.

Cleveland fans do have long memories and he did "leave for more money", so I guess they might still boo him, but do they? It's surely been long enough since he left for us to know, but I wasn't paying attention.
   39. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 04, 2013 at 11:34 AM (#4484787)
This is awesome. Who doesn't like Manny?

Raises hand.

Assaulted an old man. Never could be bothered to try on defense. Serial cheater.

What's not to like?
   40. I Am Not a Number Posted: July 04, 2013 at 11:46 AM (#4484798)
and has agreed to cut his hair

Yeah, this worked well for Samson.
   41. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 04, 2013 at 12:41 PM (#4484825)
There was a discussion at the time about Franco, which was, basically, why Franco? Could it have been predicted when he was 30 that HE would be the one who could hang around until 50?


Franco was a fanatic about his diet and his exercise regimen. He was in fantastic shape well into his 50s. I suspect that Manny's off-field routines consist more of weed and Sonic the Hedgehog.
   42. BDC Posted: July 04, 2013 at 12:54 PM (#4484844)
I was thinking last night (watching the Mariners), who could have predicted Raul Ibañez?

The Manny signing is fun news, but seems only distantly relevant to improving the team. They'll sell some extra tickets in Round Rock, though, I bet. Rangers doing their part to keep Austin weird :)
   43. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: July 04, 2013 at 02:03 PM (#4484887)
Why do the Rangers care about Manny's hair?
   44. Walt Davis Posted: July 04, 2013 at 06:24 PM (#4485026)
Moises Alou could probably still hit 300 ... in a 300/320/320 line kinda way.

Livan Hernandez can surely still give you 5 innings.

Manny Mota's 75 and he's probably still the best choice to pinch-hit.

And you probably still shouldn't try to sneak a fastball past Frank Howard.
   45. tfbg9 Posted: July 04, 2013 at 07:36 PM (#4485049)
I turned into a Manny agnostic when I heard about the flushed washcloths. C'mon, cantcha' use a paper towel or something?

   46. eddieot Posted: July 04, 2013 at 10:09 PM (#4485076)
Sorry Snapper, but from a purely entertainment level, this is awesome. Baseball is show business. Manny only makes it more fun. Don't take it so seriously... you'll enjoy it more.
   47. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 04, 2013 at 10:14 PM (#4485079)
Sorry Snapper, but from a purely entertainment level, this is awesome. Baseball is show business. Manny only makes it more fun. Don't take it so seriously... you'll enjoy it more.

Oh, I'll enjoy it thoroughly when he's hitting .220, and gets cut in 4 weeks. He's an ass. Sooner he's out of baseball the better.
   48. Publius Publicola Posted: July 04, 2013 at 10:51 PM (#4485093)
40. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 04, 2013 at 11:34 AM (#4484787)
This is awesome. Who doesn't like Manny?

Raises hand.

Assaulted an old man. Never could be bothered to try on defense. Serial cheater.


And, worst of all, wipes his ass with cotton bathroom towels, then tries to flush them down the toilet.

EDIT: coke to Teddy.
   49. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: July 04, 2013 at 11:07 PM (#4485100)
And, worst of all, wipes his ass with cotton bathroom towels, then tries to flush them down the toilet.


Take it to the Alou's pissing habits thread.

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