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Sunday, December 09, 2012

Rangers trade Michael Young to Phillies

apparently the phillies wish to corner the market on high-priced, overrated, and soon to be washed up players

Harveys Wallbangers Posted: December 09, 2012 at 02:40 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 09, 2012 at 05:23 PM (#4320387)

Wow. I never thought the Rangers would trade him.

And that is a pretty snarky intro coming from Harveys.
   2. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: December 09, 2012 at 05:43 PM (#4320389)
dave

i think it's a defensible remark.

i think it fits for young

i think it fits for howard

i think it fits rollins

and if i was being unduly harsh i might write utley who looks to be on the downside due to injury
   3. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: December 09, 2012 at 06:31 PM (#4320400)
I don't think Rollins is soon to be washed up. He was a very solid player last year and I see no reason that he won't be a plus player for the length of his contract.

Utley played well when healthy last year, 2.9 bWAR in 83 games. He won't ever have 30 HR power again, granted. He has allegedly learned a lot about his knees and their care so we'll see. I'm cautiously optimistic that he plays 120-130 games, which ought to give us a 4+ WAR player.
   4. spycake Posted: December 09, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4320413)
Michael Young might be due for a Roger Dorn season? High-priced talent?
   5. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: December 09, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4320425)
ed

for your sake i hope so. but boy, that's an old team
   6. Dan Posted: December 09, 2012 at 07:25 PM (#4320428)
Michael Young might be due for a Roger Dorn season? High-priced talent?


Well he does play defense like Dorn. I tried to find a GIF of the ball that Young "Dorned" at third base in the 2010 World Series but I had no luck, unfortunately. But pretend that I linked it here.
   7. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: December 09, 2012 at 07:44 PM (#4320435)
I believe the term Dan seeks is "ole".
   8. Steve Treder Posted: December 09, 2012 at 07:52 PM (#4320440)
I tried to find a GIF of the ball that Young "Dorned" at third base in the 2010 World Series

Good times.
   9. BDC Posted: December 09, 2012 at 08:05 PM (#4320443)
Oh, go to hell, y'all :-D
   10. Walt Davis Posted: December 09, 2012 at 08:07 PM (#4320445)
apparently the phillies wish to corner the market on high-priced, overrated, and soon to be washed up players

But that's what the Dodgers are for!
   11. Walt Davis Posted: December 09, 2012 at 08:16 PM (#4320449)
Meanwhile, anybody got an opinion on the guys going to the Rangers?
   12. KJOK Posted: December 09, 2012 at 08:24 PM (#4320453)
So this means the Phillies won't have to bring back Ty Wiggington, since they now have an improved model, that can fill in at more than just 3B and 1B....
   13. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: December 09, 2012 at 08:41 PM (#4320457)
Walt, Lindblom (a/k/a LindBOOM to some snarkier Phils fans) was picked up in the Victorino trade. His numbers were great in LA; not great in the other ballparks. Perfectly fungible back of the bullpen guy. Bonilla is an intriguing relief pitcher prospect that some of the locals who follow the minors closer than me thing will be a really good reliever (and ####### about him being included). He's only had something like 33 innings above A ball.
   14. phoenixscienter Posted: December 09, 2012 at 08:42 PM (#4320458)
As a Braves fan, this trade makes me happy. Young is downright terrible - in the field and with the bat (now), especially as a 3B. The fact that they have to pay him 7.2m (6+1.2m true up) is icing on the cake.
   15. Mike Emeigh Posted: December 09, 2012 at 10:15 PM (#4320512)
Bonilla missed the second half of 2012 after injuring a thumb while engaging in some horseplay at the Futures Game. He's apparently got some pretty ugly mechanics, which is part of the reason why the Phillies converted him to the pen a year ago, and he struggled to throw strikes last year after his promotion to AA. He's also skinny (165 pounds on a 6'1" frame) and there are concerns about his durability. He hasn't been pitching well in winter ball, and he's probably a year or two away.

Lindblom has also had issues throwing strikes consistently in the majors, which precludes giving him a bigger role in the pen.

If there's one area where the Philles have prospect depth, it's in hard-throwing pitching prospects with control issues. I don't know that this is the best use of that prospect depth but I get that they don't want to blow it up quite yet, as long as they have the big 3 fronting the rotation.

-- MWE
   16. McCoy Posted: December 09, 2012 at 10:16 PM (#4320516)
apparently the phillies wish to corner the market on high-priced, overrated, and soon to be washed up players

Alfonso Soriano is available.
   17. Walt Davis Posted: December 09, 2012 at 10:50 PM (#4320549)
McCoy hush! Have you not noticed the shift in our marketing -- Soriano is now underrated and re-established himself as a perfectly cromulent player. With a mere 2/$36 left on the contract, other teams will now have to give us something of value if they hope to acquire the future HoFer.

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