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Raul Mondesi, former Yankees outfielder, sentenced to eight years in prison for corruption while mayor of San Cristobal

Former Yankees outfielder Raul Mondesi was sentenced to eight years in prison on Wednesday for corruption he took part in while mayor of San Cristobal in the Dominican Republic.

Mondesi, who was mayor of San Cristobal from 2010 to 2016, was also fined 60 million pesos for the corruption, according to a report.

That’s $1,257,336.00 in US Dollars.

Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 21, 2017 at 11:17 AM | 44 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: corruption, dodgers, dominican republic, prison, raul mondesi, yankees

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   1. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 21, 2017 at 11:40 AM (#5535848)
You can get in trouble for being a corrupt government official in South America?
   2. simpleton & childlike gef the talking mongoose Posted: September 21, 2017 at 11:46 AM (#5535852)
Presumably he didn't pay off the right people, or didn't pay the right people as much as they wanted.
   3. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 21, 2017 at 11:46 AM (#5535853)
You can get in trouble for being a corrupt government official in South America?


Must be nice to live somewhere that corrupt politicians actually get in trouble.
   4. BDC Posted: September 21, 2017 at 11:51 AM (#5535859)
That headline parses for me as if he was sentenced to serve his term concurrently with being mayor.
   5. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 21, 2017 at 11:59 AM (#5535868)
60 million pesos


Since I had no idea what a Dominican peso is worth, it looks like that's a fine of about $1.25 million.

Hard to imagine that a guy who skipped out on his contract with the Pirates might turn out to be untrustworthy...
   6. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 21, 2017 at 12:00 PM (#5535870)
I love when the players are called 'former [ ]' outfielder, and the team that is identified is the last team I would associate the player with. I realize this is a NYDN story, but still, if this happened to Piazza, I doubt the Miami Herald would say 'Former Marlin' Mike Piazza...
   7. Mark Armour Posted: September 21, 2017 at 12:13 PM (#5535879)
Is it just me, or have a very large number of Jeter-Era (not disparaging Jeter, just shorthand for a time period) Yankees had significant legal troubles?
   8. Rough Carrigan Posted: September 21, 2017 at 12:18 PM (#5535888)
It's hard to gift basket your way out of significant legal troubles.
   9. SoSH U at work Posted: September 21, 2017 at 12:25 PM (#5535896)
This must be tough on little Raul. And other little Raul.

   10. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 21, 2017 at 12:27 PM (#5535898)
Since I had no idea what a Dominican peso is worth, it looks like that's a fine of about $1.25 million.

*sigh*
   11. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 21, 2017 at 12:36 PM (#5535911)
*sigh*


Hey, on the bright side, it confirms your work!
   12. geonose Posted: September 21, 2017 at 12:42 PM (#5535923)
You can get in trouble for being a corrupt government official in South America?

Picking a nit...The Dominican Republic is in North America. Doesn't change your point, though.

   13. Mark Armour Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:07 PM (#5535947)
Is it just me, or have a very large number of Jeter-Era (not disparaging Jeter, just shorthand for a time period) Yankees had significant legal troubles?


Chad Curtis
Luis Polonia
Jim Leyritz
Mel Hall
Danny Tartabull
Steve Howe
Darryl Strawberry
Dwight Gooden
Chuck Knoblauch
Hideki Irabu
Jose Canseco
Raul Mondesi

Dunno, maybe that's normal.

   14. The Good Face Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:11 PM (#5535952)
Chad Curtis
Luis Polonia
Jim Leyritz
Mel Hall
Danny Tartabull
Steve Howe
Darryl Strawberry
Dwight Gooden
Chuck Knoblauch
Hideki Irabu
Jose Canseco
Raul Mondesi

Dunno, maybe that's normal.



It's a testament to Cap'n Jeets' superhuman leadership skills that they were able to play for, and contribute to, the Yankees without immediately getting incarcerated for some unspeakable crime.
   15. bfan Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:17 PM (#5535961)
169 of a career total of 6369 games with the Yankees (basically two half-seasons, and roughly 2.5% of his career), and he is a "former Yankee?" I guess that is true, in a deceptive sense, in the same way that George Washington was a "former resident of New Jersey" because he spent a winter there.
   16. Rally Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:26 PM (#5535972)
Hall never played with Jeter. His last year with the Yankees was 1992. Tartabull and Jeter played a few games together in 1995 but not much - Jeter played 15 games that year, mostly early June, and Tartabull was traded away at the deadline.
   17. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:31 PM (#5535977)
Mark - I think your list is a bit unfair...

Luis Polonia...92 games over parts of two seasons
Mel Hall...never teammates
Danny Tartabull...teammates for about 2 weeks the year during a short call up in 1995
Steve Howe...25 games Jeter's rookie year.

Darryl Strawberry
Dwight Gooden - Both had substantial problems well before they came in contact with Captain Calm Eyes and of course the same can be said at great length about Howe.

With all that said I would be interested to see how unusual this list is. The Yankees (particularly those Yankees) were high profile teams and players so their transgressions are getting noticed. Just doing some quick checking to find someone who made my point I learned about Byron McLaughlin. Now this is an odd one obviously but at the end of the day it kind of is my point; the Yankees during Jeter's career were incredibly successful, their players got known so when they get in trouble we hear about it. I suspect some of those guys (e.g. Curtis, Leyritz) are the types of players that if they were doing the same role for the Padres or Marlins would not have gotten more than a passing mention.
   18. Mark Armour Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:33 PM (#5535978)
I was not intending this to be about Jeter. So, replace "Jeter Era" with "1990-2005". Most of the criminal activity was post-career, not while with the Yankees (presumably), so it is more a curiosity. When you have a reunion of former teammates you expect one or two cases like this, but not an entire lineup.
   19. Mark Armour Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:35 PM (#5535983)
Mark - I think your list is a bit unfair...


In my original post I tried to be quite clear that Jeter had literally nothing to do with the point, much like saying "I enjoyed the television programs of the Reagan Era" does not mean you are crediting Reagan for the network programming.
   20. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:42 PM (#5535992)
When you have a reunion of former teammates you expect one or two cases like this, but not an entire lineup.


Is that true? The 1990-2005 Yankees had 312 different players over 16 seasons. What percentage would we expect? I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm genuinely curious.

Just to give it a little look the 1990-2005 have had (based solely on memory) the following players with varying degrees of off field issues (out of 390 total players);

Mo Vaughn
Mike Greenwell
Paxton Crawford
Roger Clemens
Manny Alexander
Ugueth Urbina
Jack Clark
Wil Cordero
Jose Canseco
Rod Beck
Otis Nixon
Kevin Mitchell
   21. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:43 PM (#5535993)
In my original post I tried to be quite clear that Jeter had literally nothing to do with the point, much like saying "I enjoyed the television programs of the Reagan Era" does not mean you are crediting Reagan for the network programming.


I can't be expected to read an entire post. My bad.

I think it's an interesting thought exercise though. What's a "reasonable" number?
   22. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:46 PM (#5535999)

So is Raul's son still a legitimate top prospect? He's got ~100 games of pretty nice numbers in AAA (albeit with a 105:20 K:BB ratio), but hasn't hit at all in 206 PA at the MLB level (granted, it's only 206 PA at ages 20-21, but a 31 OPS+ ain't good).
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:51 PM (#5536004)
What's a "reasonable" number?

Maybe tally up the total for the '86 Mets and divide by 4?
   24. Mark Armour Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:52 PM (#5536007)
I guess we'd have to define our terms a little better, which perhaps is too much work. I left Clemens and A-Rod off the Yankee list, choosing to ignore PED related legal problems as too murky. Perhaps I should not have. Also, left off people that had legal disputes that did not result (that I know of) in an actual conviction. I believe they all spent time in prison.

If those same rules were applied to the Boston list, who would be left?



   25. Batman Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:54 PM (#5536008)
I was not intending this to be about Jeter. So, replace "Jeter Era" with "1990-2005".
Basically the Bernie Williams Era. Hard-partying musicians like Bernie Williams are a bad influence.
   26. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 21, 2017 at 01:55 PM (#5536011)
Huh. Actually, the '86 Mets weren't all that bad, even including Keith Hernandez and Roger McDowell's transgressions on Seinfeld. Other than them, you have Backman, Dykstra, Mitchell, Gooden and Strawberry. Anyone else? Did HoJo get into trouble at some point?
   27. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 21, 2017 at 02:01 PM (#5536018)
I guess we'd have to define our terms a little better, which perhaps is too much work. I left Clemens and A-Rod off the Yankee list, choosing to ignore PED related legal problems as too murky. Perhaps I should not have. Also, left off people that had legal disputes that did not result (that I know of) in an actual conviction. I believe they all spent time in prison.

If those same rules were applied to the Boston list, who would be left?


Hmmmm...I didn't give it too much thought so I can't really say. I think a lot of my list didn't do time but did have arrests or substance abuse issues.
   28. Mark Armour Posted: September 21, 2017 at 02:04 PM (#5536024)
The 1998 Yankees, who were treated in the media as a likable champion, had Curtis, Strawberry and Knoblauch in their starting lineup, and Irabu in their rotation. That seems like a higher than average criminal component.
   29. Batman Posted: September 21, 2017 at 02:28 PM (#5536055)
Actually, the '86 Mets weren't all that bad, even including Keith Hernandez and Roger McDowell's transgressions on Seinfeld. Other than them, you have Backman, Dykstra, Mitchell, Gooden and Strawberry. Anyone else?
The Devil
   30. SoSH U at work Posted: September 21, 2017 at 02:31 PM (#5536058)
169 of a career total of 6369 games with the Yankees (basically two half-seasons, and roughly 2.5% of his career), and he is a "former Yankee?"


To the New York Daily News, he is. I assume if Moses had linked to a piece from the LA Times, he'd be former Dodger Raul Mondesi. All new organizations localize whenever possible.
   31. Batman Posted: September 21, 2017 at 02:38 PM (#5536066)
To the New York Daily News, he is. I assume if Moses had linked to a piece from the LA Times, he'd be former Dodger Raul Mondesi. All new organizations localize whenever possible.
Yes, in Kansas City, it's Father of Royals’ Raul Mondesi sentenced to prison for corruption in Dominican Republic
   32. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 21, 2017 at 02:39 PM (#5536069)
So is Raul's son still a legitimate top prospect?


Oh, hell, who even knows?

I think he could've been a pretty good player if the Royals hadn't rushed him to the majors two full years before he was ready. But now? Basically no outcome would surprise me.
   33. Walt Davis Posted: September 21, 2017 at 05:24 PM (#5536189)
ARod avoided legal trouble but he got into plenty of trouble and was essentially fined $25 M ... probably worse punishment than many of the others listed. So I'll blame Jeter for that one too. :-)

Nobody took the bait for TV shows of the Reagan era?
   34. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 21, 2017 at 05:34 PM (#5536192)
Also, left off people that had legal disputes that did not result (that I know of) in an actual conviction.


I noticed Ruben Rivera didn't make the cut.
   35. bfan Posted: September 21, 2017 at 05:55 PM (#5536205)
So is Raul's son still a legitimate top prospect?


He was ridiculously over-hyped because of who he was by birth (which I thought was kind of a no-no to judge people on, as a general rule) and how fast he was.
   36. Hank G. Posted: September 21, 2017 at 08:20 PM (#5536248)
Raul Mondesi was paid (according to Baseball Reference) over $66 million in his baseball career. Why did he need to be corrupt?
   37. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 21, 2017 at 10:42 PM (#5536385)
“Needing” more money and “wanting” more money are not necessarily synonymous.
   38. Sweatpants Posted: September 21, 2017 at 11:17 PM (#5536456)
I remember him as a talented player who was a power-speed threat with a good arm, kind of a lower-class Vladimir Guerrero, but the 71% SB percentage seems to indicate that he was never very good at avoiding being caught stealing.
   39. Athletic Supporter wants to move your money around Posted: September 21, 2017 at 11:30 PM (#5536474)
169 of a career total of 6369 games with the Yankees


I'll take the under on 6369 games played, Bob.
   40. Mike A Posted: September 21, 2017 at 11:32 PM (#5536478)
I love when the players are called 'former [ ]' outfielder, and the team that is identified is the last team I would associate the player with. I realize this is a NYDN story, but still, if this happened to Piazza, I doubt the Miami Herald would say 'Former Marlin' Mike Piazza...

AJC Headline: "Former Braves Player Gets 8 Years In Prison."

Mondesi played 41 (really bad) games for the Braves at the end of his career.
   41. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: September 22, 2017 at 02:59 AM (#5536566)
The AJC's headline is "Former Braves player gets 8 years in prison," and Mondesi was a Brave for 41 of his 1525 games (bfan looked at the wrong column. Athletic Supporter correctly guessed that Mondesi did not play 40 full seasons.)
   42. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 22, 2017 at 07:13 AM (#5536584)

I remember him as a talented player who was a power-speed threat with a good arm, kind of a lower-class Vladimir Guerrero, but the 71% SB percentage seems to indicate that he was never very good at avoiding being caught stealing.

Well, Vlad was only a 66% base stealer, so the comparison still holds.
   43. TheHomeRunsOfJuanPierre Posted: September 22, 2017 at 01:18 PM (#5536864)
Calling Mondesi a Yankee is clickfish at best.

Who here even remembers him as a Yankee above a Dodger or Blue Jay?

That said. It's always a wonder to see where retired ballplayers lives go.

   44. Tim D Posted: September 22, 2017 at 02:24 PM (#5536950)

"Must be nice to live somewhere that corrupt politicians actually get in trouble."

Kwame Kilpatrick (serving 28 years) says hello.

Mondesi was a fun player. Not as wonderful as the Dodgers hoped, of course, but man those tools were on display every night.

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