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Monday, October 23, 2017

Ray Knight Parties, Beats Up Friend

Fairfax County police responded to a call about a fight in the 7500 block of Ashby Lane around 4 a.m. Sunday after an argument between Knight and a 33-year-old acquaintance. After a verbal altercation, the fight became physical and both men had visible injuries, said Officer Kent Bailey with the Fairfax County Police Department.

There is no truth to the rumor that 33-year-old Dan Kolko bit Ray Knight’s hand.

Bote Man Posted: October 23, 2017 at 09:07 PM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: nationals, pugilism, ray knight

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   1. Hysterical & Useless Posted: October 24, 2017 at 09:19 AM (#5560784)
I was going to say that Ray is old enough to know better than to be getting into fights with kids, but then I checked BREF and saw that Knight is just a kid himself; he's over 4 months younger than me! So I guess those are the crucial months in dividing the kids from the old farts.
   2. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 24, 2017 at 10:23 AM (#5560826)
The Washington Post account differs from the one in the link above, in that it doesn't say anything about Knight having "hosted" any party. Knight says he was asleep when a group who'd been renting part of the house arrived in the wee hours.

Bottom line is that we don't really know what happened, and if Knight weren't a public figure, it's likely that an incident like this would've received no media coverage at all.
   3. TDF didn't lie, he just didn't remember Posted: October 24, 2017 at 10:40 AM (#5560838)
Bottom line is that we don't really know what happened, and if Knight weren't a public figure, it's likely that an incident like this would've received no media coverage at all.
Isn't that true of about 50% of the news?

If not for who they are, would we know what Bill O'Reilly and Harvey Weinstein did? Or any of the many things OJ Simpson did?

Monica Lewinsky would be just another 20-something that had sex with her much older boss if said boss wasn't POTUS.

If every creep that sent pics of his junk to high school girls made the news like Anthony Weiner, there wouldn't be room in the newscast for weather or sports.
   4. Batman Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:01 AM (#5560849)
Until it's proven otherwise, the "33-year-old" is Lenny Dykstra with a fake ID.
   5. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:21 AM (#5560859)
Better "parties, beats up friend" than "beats up friend, parties" at least...
   6. Batman Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:26 AM (#5560864)
If every creep that sent pics of his junk to high school girls made the news like Anthony Weiner, there wouldn't be room in the newscast for weather or sports.
But we mostly only care about sports involving public figures we've heard of, so that's fine.
   7. Swoboda is freedom Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:36 AM (#5560870)
This reminds me of an old joke.

Guy moves to the country, tired of city life. On the first day, a neighbor swings by. "Hey neighbor. Just saw you moved in. I wanted to welcome you to the neighborhood and invite you to a party tonight."

The newcomer thinks that this is great and is just why he moved to the country. "Sounds great he says. Thanks"

The neighbor says, "Got to warn you, these country parties can get a little rowdy. There is going to be a lot of drinking, fighting, and fornicating"

The newcomer says a little warily, "OK what time should I be there?"

The neighbor says " Don't matter, it is only going to be the 2 of us."
   8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:37 AM (#5560874)
The Washington Post account differs from the one in the link above, in that it doesn't say anything about Knight having "hosted" any party. Knight says he was asleep when a group who'd been renting part of the house arrived in the wee hours.

The linked WaPo article says Knight rents the house, but nothing about the group that arrived at 4:00AM also being tenants. Is that reported elsewhere? Also worth noting that the charge is misdemeanor assault & battery, and that the actual headline of the article posted here is "Nationals TV analyst arrested for assault, battery in VA".
   9. Bote Man Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:54 AM (#5560889)
Maybe ol Ray had a party, got drunk, and was sleeping it off on his couch when the 33-old ne'er-do-well tenant came in and woke him up. Kinda like waking up a sleeping bear. Poor judgment, if you ask me.
   10. TR_Sullivan Posted: October 24, 2017 at 12:59 PM (#5560951)
Knight did some serious boxing before he made the Major Leagues.... I remember one time he was playing third, a guy slid in hard and there was an altercation... or maybe it was the other way around. Knight slid in hard.... Anyway the two combatants squared off and rather than the usual baseball scrum... Knight went into serious boxing mode and dealt some blows... At least that's the way I remember it from long ago... Anybody else remember that?

   11. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: October 24, 2017 at 01:05 PM (#5560955)

#10 - This?

   12. Rally Posted: October 24, 2017 at 01:30 PM (#5560979)
Knight did some serious boxing before he made the Major Leagues.... I remember one time he was playing third, a guy slid in hard and there was an altercation... or maybe it was the other way around. Knight slid in hard.... Anyway the two combatants squared off and rather than the usual baseball scrum... Knight went into serious boxing mode and dealt some blows... At least that's the way I remember it from long ago... Anybody else remember that?


That was Eric Davis.

Isn't that true of about 50% of the news?

If not for who they are, would we know what Bill O'Reilly and Harvey Weinstein did? Or any of the many things OJ Simpson did?


Simpson, yeah, but he'd just be another guy who killed his wife and her friend. It would run in the local news, then be forgotten. Certainly nobody would be making miniseries about it.

It's news when Jose Altuve or Justin Turner gets four hits in a game. There's never been a news story about me doing the same thing in a softball game.
   13. Brian Posted: October 24, 2017 at 01:30 PM (#5560980)
Not that impressive, kind of run-of-the-mill baseball fight stuff IMO.
   14. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 24, 2017 at 01:49 PM (#5560986)
Simpson, yeah, but he'd just be another guy who killed his wife and her friend. It would run in the local news, then be forgotten. Certainly nobody would be making miniseries about it.

Eh, I disagree. Murders of young, attractive women (particularly white women) regularly become huge news stories and get the miniseries treatment. Laci Peterson, for example. If OJ's status as a public figure was the only thing that was changed about that situation, say if he was an investment banker or something, I'd bet it still becomes a miniseries. "Wealthy African-American investment banker murders attractive young white wife, wife's boyfriend" is a great plot line for sensationalization.
   15. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 24, 2017 at 02:09 PM (#5561000)
#10 - This?

Man, that Knight-Davis fight was totally on Knight. All Davis did was to stand up and try to keep his foot on the base while Knight tried to crowd him off it.
   16. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 24, 2017 at 02:15 PM (#5561004)
Man, that Knight-Davis fight was totally on Knight. All Davis did was to stand up and try to keep his foot on the base while Knight tried to crowd him off it.

Wow. That's incredible. Yeah, I hope Knight was suspended for a good long while for that. Hell, he should have that tacked onto whatever charges get pressed for this incident.
   17. winnipegwhip Posted: October 24, 2017 at 02:19 PM (#5561009)
Man, that Knight-Davis fight was totally on Knight. All Davis did was to stand up and try to keep his foot on the base while Knight tried to crowd him off it.


What I remember about that was it happened the same night as an epic Giants Cardinals brawl. The sports reports had two brawls to show back to back that night.
   18. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 24, 2017 at 02:27 PM (#5561013)
Man, that Knight-Davis fight was totally on Knight. All Davis did was to stand up and try to keep his foot on the base while Knight tried to crowd him off it.

Words were exchanged.
   19. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: October 24, 2017 at 02:45 PM (#5561028)
My recollection is that Ray Knight was always a skeezy little punk.... one of the more punch-worthy guys on a team that really deserved to have daily punchings scheduled.

One of my favorite 80s memories was former Texas Longhorns safety Keith Moreland tackling and beating the crap out of Ed Lynch... though sadly, not damaging him enough to forestall Lynch's later awful run as Gubs GM.
   20. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 24, 2017 at 02:51 PM (#5561034)
though sadly, not damaging him enough to forestall Lynch's later awful run as Gubs GM.

Or, alternatively, maybe a few blows to the head goes a long way to explaining Lynch's performance...
   21. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 24, 2017 at 02:59 PM (#5561038)
Not that impressive, kind of run-of-the-mill baseball fight stuff IMO.


It's no Rod Allen charging the mound, that's for sure.
   22. Rally Posted: October 24, 2017 at 03:06 PM (#5561042)
Eh, I disagree. Murders of young, attractive women (particularly white women) regularly become huge news stories and get the miniseries treatment.


Sure, it's not unprecedented, but the vast majority of murders of non-famous people by non-famous people (even attractive white females) do not get that kind of national attention.

I'm assuming in the hypothetical world where O.J. is not famous, neither is Nicole. Since she was pretty much just famous for marrying O.J.
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 24, 2017 at 03:16 PM (#5561054)
I'm assuming in the hypothetical world where O.J. is not famous, neither is Nicole. Since she was pretty much just famous for marrying O.J.

Agreed. But I think the plot line I mentioned above would likely become a huge national news story even if all parties involved were non-famous beforehand.
   24. Greg Pope Posted: October 24, 2017 at 03:29 PM (#5561071)
Laci Peterson, for example.

I can't keep Scott Peterson and Drew Peterson separate. I mean, I know all about Drew Peterson since I'm from Chicago, but every time I hear "Scott Peterson", I think it's referring to Drew. And I certainly don't know which murdered wife is which. Both had TV movies made out of their stories.

EDIT: And now I see that the Wikipedia pages for both Scott and Drew have a "not to be confused with" each other note at the top. So I'm not the only one.
   25. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 24, 2017 at 03:42 PM (#5561089)
I can't keep Scott Peterson and Drew Peterson separate.

I think one is a pitching coach and the other plays outfield for the Dodgers.
   26. Walt Davis Posted: October 24, 2017 at 03:54 PM (#5561102)
The "public figures" I feel sorry for are the Rodney Kings of the world. He became a public figure because the LA cops beat the #### out of him and got caught on video doing it. Then the trial, then the riots. After that, any time King had any minor run-in with the law, there'd be a little blurb about it in the sidebar of nearly every paper in the country.

Another was Arthur Ashe who was of course a famous (retired) tennis player. How that gives US News (if I recall correctly) the right to go digging and find he has AIDS I don't know? They at least had the decency to give him a heads up so he could make the announcement himself. Good came out of that as Ashe became a major campaigner on AIDS issues but the public's right to know shouldn't extend to the private lives of people famous for non-political reasons.

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