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Sunday, April 06, 2014

Reagan Library Opens Baseball Exhibit

You have 5 months to enjoy exceptionally rare baseball artifacts in Unseemly Valley, California. The article makes it sound enticing.

boteman Posted: April 06, 2014 at 09:55 PM | 37 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DL from MN Posted: April 07, 2014 at 10:44 AM (#4680851)
I saw this when it was in MN. Good exhibit. My favorite was the Edd Roush hat with built in flip up sunglasses.
   2. Swoboda is freedom Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:03 AM (#4680876)
Well there better be some stuff from Grover Cleveland Alexander in this museum.
   3. DL from MN Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:10 AM (#4680878)
I think I've seen a "best presidential" lineup here before (Otis Nixon, Jack Roosevelt Robinson, etc).
   4. Mark Armour Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:17 AM (#4680880)
Despite Reagan's connection to the game, he didn't really follow it or know much about it. There was a big gathering at the White House in 1983 (for the 50th anniversary of the All-Star game?) and a lot of old legends were there, but Reagan mostly talked about his time as an announcer. He was not a fan.

Kennedy was a fan. Nixon was sort of a fan (he liked football better). Bush 2 was a fan. That's about it in my lifetime.

   5. GregD Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:22 AM (#4680884)
Kennedy was a fan. Nixon was sort of a fan (he liked football better). Bush 2 was a fan. That's about it in my lifetime.
Was Ford not a fan? I always assumed he was since he was such a jock, but don't know.
   6. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:26 AM (#4680890)
Taft was a fan
   7. What's the realistic upside, RMc? Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:31 AM (#4680896)
And Lincoln, of course.
   8. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:37 AM (#4680904)
Obama seems like a casual fan. Bush Jr. is definitely a huge fan and Bush Sr. seems pretty into baseball, too. Carter and Clinton don't really seem like they're into sports at all which may be a mistake on my part but they just don't register as sports fans for me. The older I get, the more I respect that, by the way.
   9. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:41 AM (#4680907)
Carter and Clinton don't really seem like they're into sports at all which may be a mistake on my part but they just don't register as sports fans for me.


Clinton was a big fan of Arkansas basketball. (Dunno if he paid much attention to the football team or not. Wasn't much to like back then, not that there is now, either.)
   10. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4680910)
Clinton seemed to be a big Arkansas basketball fan, but then since they won one championship and came in second the next year during his first three years in office, it may have been just a confluence of photo ops.

EDIT: coke to gef
   11. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:49 AM (#4680915)
From having worked in the Little Rock newsroom throughout his presidency & known quite a few people who covered him before, during & after that period, my impression is that his knowledge, interest & enthusiasm ran pretty deep.

Hell, if he's interested in taking over the coaching reins right now, I for one would be willing to see him get the chance.
   12. GregD Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:50 AM (#4680916)
I think Clinton's college hoops fandom is real, as is Obama's NBA fandom. I never saw any sign either was that excited about baseball

Did Bush Sr actually follow baseball? I know he played in college but some athletes aren't fans at all
   13. jmurph Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:55 AM (#4680926)
Did Bush Sr actually follow baseball?


He and Barbara certainly attend a lot of Astros games, so all evidence points to no.
   14. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: April 07, 2014 at 12:11 PM (#4680951)
From having worked in the Little Rock newsroom throughout [Clinton's] presidency & known quite a few people who covered him before, during & after that period, my impression is that his knowledge, interest & enthusiasm ran pretty deep.

Hell, if he's interested in taking over the coaching reins right now, I for one would be willing to see him get the chance.


Just don't let the cheerleaders' moms get a vote on that.
   15. Gazizza, my Dilznoofuses! Posted: April 07, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4680975)
Grace Coolidge (wife of Calvin) was a big enough baseball fan that she was given a lifetime pass by the American League to any she wished to attend. The Coolidge Foundation hosted an exhibit on Vermont baseball with an emphasis on the Grace's love of the game last year. One day, they had a speaker come in and talk about the Coolidges and baseball, but it seems it was Grace who had the interest and Calvin went along more to humor his wife than out of any interest of his own.

Grace once wrote in a letter to some friends: "..not one of you cares a hoot about baseball but to me it is my very life."
   16. Perry Posted: April 07, 2014 at 12:44 PM (#4680994)
Did Bush Sr actually follow baseball? I know he played in college but some athletes aren't fans at all


Used to see him and Barbara sitting behind home plate quite a bit when I'd watch games televised from Houston; not so much the last few years. Age and infirmity may be taking their tolls, but I'd say he was pretty genuine.
   17. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 07, 2014 at 12:44 PM (#4680996)
Calvin Coolidge, the original Lake Monster.
   18. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4681042)
I think Clinton's college hoops fandom is real, as is Obama's NBA fandom. I never saw any sign either was that excited about baseball

White Sox fandom (or at least a White Sox hat) is the easiest way to declare some sort of general allegiance to the South Side of Chicago. The South Side is full of people who wear White Sox hats and call themselves White Sox fans and who may even go to a game or three every year, but who aren't really interested in baseball. Obama strikes me as being of that type.

Jimmy Carter would occasionally show up at Braves games, but I don't think he's ever been called a fan.
   19. DL from MN Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:19 PM (#4681051)
According to the Internet: Gerald Ford was a Tigers fan and attended Grand Rapids Chicks games as well.

http://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/exhibits/baseball/homepage.htm

The library states that Nixon tried to become head of the players union, Truman was a big fan and Eisenhower played.
   20. Gazizza, my Dilznoofuses! Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:26 PM (#4681063)
#18: I heard a story (I think on this site) that when Obama was still running for Senate, but everyone knew he was destined for bigger things, the teller of the story saw Obama and wanted to get his autograph. He had no piece of paper other than a Cubs schedule which he handed to Obama, who looked at it and handed it back unsigned and just said "Go Sox."

I'm not a fan of Obama as President, but I do respect him for that. So, it would seem likely he has more than a passing interest in the Sox if he would do that to a potential voter.

EDIT: some grammar fixes
   21. AROM Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:32 PM (#4681073)
I'm not a fan of Obama, but I do respect him for that. It would seem he has more than a passing interest in the Sox if he would do that to a potential voter.


Me too. He strikes me as pretty sincere about the White Sox. And he's definitely a top rank basketball fan. It would not surprise me if his morning briefings include the latest from Zach Lowe.
   22. Baseballs Most Beloved Figure Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:33 PM (#4681075)
Used to see him and Barbara sitting behind home plate quite a bit when I'd watch games televised from Houston; not so much the last few years. Age and infirmity may be taking their tolls, but I'd say he was pretty genuine.
They were there on opening night.
   23. AndrewJ Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:38 PM (#4681084)
The library states that Nixon tried to become head of the players union

Allegedly Nixon was also considered for MLB commissioner in 1965. He'd have been a better choice than Spike Eckert.
   24. vortex of dissipation Posted: April 07, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4681138)
Nixon may have been more of a football fan, but he certainly liked baseball. There's a piece in the 1970 Sporting News Baseball Guide written by Jerome Holtzman that covers the reception given at the White House for the 100th Anniversary of professional baseball (the All-Star game was held in Washington in 1969, so it was tied in with that), and Holtzman notes that Nixon talked about his boyhood memories, such as Howard Ehmke's start in the '29 series, and Pepper Martin stealing bases off Mickey Cochrane in the 1931 series. According to Holtzman, Nixon recognized most of the players/managers/officials he was introduced to, and was able to talk to Gene Mauch about the Expos pitching staff, and Jim Lonborg about his leg injury. The weirdest conversation must have been with Bob Skinner, then the Phillies manager, who was going through problems with Richie Allen, as he was known then. Nixon told Skinner that Allen should not leave baseball because "he needs the fulfillment of sports". I'm sure that Nixon was prepped, as politicians are, but the amount of knowledge he displayed struck Holtzman as that of a genuine fan.
   25. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: April 07, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4681139)
Allegedly Nixon was also considered for MLB commissioner in 1965. He'd have been a better choice than Spike Eckert.

Nixon is appointed MLB commissioner in 1965. His combination of intelligence and gift for devious cronyism makes him very popular with the owners and he eventually passes Landis to become the longest-serving commissioner in MLB history. Finally, citing ill health, he announces his retirement on September 7, 1992. Rangers owner George W Bush is appointed as his replacement.
   26. Sunday silence Posted: April 07, 2014 at 02:24 PM (#4681150)
I'm sure that Nixon was prepped, as politicians are,


I would question that. He also had very good memory of football players as well. Hunter Thompson (sp?) tells the story of when he got to sit in the back seat of limo w/ Nixon and he started going off on football players. Thompson was talking about a catch that happened in the closing minutes of Superbowl II and Nixon instantly remembered that was Bill Miller of OAK.

Some people have really good memories for stuff like that. Pretty sure Nixon was like that.

"devious cronyism" seems about the least likely of whatever faults Nixon may have had. His basic problem seems to be that he was pretty much a loner and a sort of brooding guy. At one pt. in 1970 I think he went to LIncoln Memorial to talk to the peace protestors. It was an interesting point in his career but he eventually just got immersed in himself and his problems.
   27. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 07, 2014 at 02:33 PM (#4681162)
I'm sure that Nixon was prepped, as politicians are, but the amount of knowledge he displayed struck Holtzman as that of a genuine fan.

which was also Hunter Thompson's surprised reaction when he had a football discussion with Nixon


EDIT: coke to SS--and it wasn't just that Nixon knew it was Bill Miller, but he also remembered that he went to Miami--THAT"S what surprised Thompson
   28. Nasty Nate Posted: April 07, 2014 at 02:47 PM (#4681170)
Used to see him and Barbara sitting behind home plate quite a bit when I'd watch games televised from Houston; not so much the last few years. Age and infirmity may be taking their tolls, but I'd say he was pretty genuine.


They were there on opening night.


Yeah I saw them on TV, Bush was drinking a beer.

I hope I live to be pushing 90 and still go to the ballgame with my special lady and enjoy a tasty beverage.
   29. Lindor Truffles Posted: April 07, 2014 at 06:10 PM (#4681437)
Pretty sure Obama threw out a Nationals first pitch in a Washington jacket and White Sox hat. I don't know if that speaks to him being a big Sox fan or the aforementioned South Side pride (which is very real here).
   30. Zach Posted: April 07, 2014 at 07:55 PM (#4681514)
He strikes me as pretty sincere about the White Sox.

A couple of years ago, Rob Dibble (without meaning to) completely stumped Obama by asking him to name his favourite player growing up.

The man's not a baseball fan.
   31. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: April 07, 2014 at 08:08 PM (#4681523)
I think I've seen a "best presidential" lineup here before (Otis Nixon, Jack Roosevelt Robinson, etc).


All presidential team, last names only, one player per president.:

C - Gary Carter
1B - Von Hayes
2B - Adam Kennedy
SS - Donie Bush
3B - Sparky Adams
LF - Claudell Washington
CF - Hack Wilson
RF - Reggie Jackson

SP - Walter Johnson
SP - Randy Johnson
SP - Whitey Ford
SP - Billy Pierce
SP - Babe Adams
CL - Mudcat Grant
   32. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: April 07, 2014 at 08:16 PM (#4681525)
I can't believe there's even a shadow of a doubt about Bush Sr. He's a huge baseball fan. He used to go routinely to ####### SeaDogs games during the summer when he was living in Kennebunkport.
   33. AndrewJ Posted: April 07, 2014 at 08:25 PM (#4681527)
Nixon may have been more of a football fan, but he certainly liked baseball. There's a piece in the 1970 Sporting News Baseball Guide written by Jerome Holtzman that covers the reception given at the White House for the 100th Anniversary of professional baseball (the All-Star game was held in Washington in 1969, so it was tied in with that), and Holtzman notes that Nixon talked about his boyhood memories, such as Howard Ehmke's start in the '29 series, and Pepper Martin stealing bases off Mickey Cochrane in the 1931 series. (...)I'm sure that Nixon was prepped, as politicians are, but the amount of knowledge he displayed struck Holtzman as that of a genuine fan.

Funny you should bring that anecdote up. Jerry Izenberg, in his sportswriting memoir (How Many Miles to Camelot?), recalled attending that reception with a group of veteran sportswriters. During the chit-chat before the event, one of Nixon's aides asked the scribes, "Anything particularly memorable happen in the World Series of, um, 1929?" After a few moments they came up with Howard Ehmke's surprise start. A few minutes later Nixon addressed the gathering and enraptured those in attendance by spontaneously remembering listening to Game One of the 1929 Series on the radio out in Whittier, when Howard Ehmke made a surprise start...
   34. greenback calls it soccer Posted: April 07, 2014 at 08:27 PM (#4681528)
The Bushes not only went to Astros games, they would stay until the ninth inning.
   35. DL from MN Posted: April 07, 2014 at 09:08 PM (#4681542)
Obama didn't follow the Sox growing up in Hawaii. He adopted Chicago as an adult.
   36. What's the realistic upside, RMc? Posted: April 07, 2014 at 09:15 PM (#4681546)
I hope I live to be pushing 90 and still go to the ballgame with my special lady and enjoy a tasty beverage.

There's no better thing a man can do, at any age.
   37. Howie Menckel Posted: April 07, 2014 at 09:50 PM (#4681561)

Yes, Obama is very knowledgeable about college hoops (didn't hurt for Michelle's brother to be the Oregon St head coach), I would say he follows it more than any other President has.

But he knows squat about baseball; got caught looking a few times with bungled names.

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