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Monday, October 15, 2018

Red Sox exorcise their postseason demons to beat Astros and even ALCS

Sometimes in baseball, you need to throw away the narratives and just see which way the ball bounces.

In Game 2 of the American League Championship Series between the Houston Astros and Boston Red Sox, thanks to some help from the Green Monster and some passed balls from Houston, everything bounced in the direction of the Red Sox.

The big difference? A Jackie Bradley Jr. double that careened off the Green Monster and then pinballed its way to the fence between the field and the stands and started rolling like it was on a golf course. It brought home three runs in the third inning and gave the Red Sox a 5-4 lead that would eventually become a 7-5 win.

Should a team that has won three World Series in the last fifteen years really be talking about “postseason demons” at this point?

QLE Posted: October 15, 2018 at 02:39 PM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: October 15, 2018 at 06:53 PM (#5767146)
As a lifelong Red Sox fan, I have to say: this headline is silly.

The demons left in 2004. While I want them to do well, there is no anxiety related to Boston's performance. I did not flip channels a single time while the Patriots were on, even though it was a regular-season game.

The entertainment value of the Patriots-Chiefs game was off the charts, and the stakes of the game were sneaky-big. If KC wins, the best NE is going to be is a two-seed, and probably more like a three-seed. In football, the home field advantage, coupled with the Wild Card Weekend bye week, is enormously valuable - and it makes virtually every game really important. Add to that the sense that when the Brady-Belichick run ends, the Patriots will have depleted its good karma for the rest of my life.

Before 2004, every Red Sox season had the urgency of the team winning a World Series - just one, please! - before family members died without ever seeing a World Series come to Boston. The idea that we've won three since Aaron Boone hit that home run in 2003 is such a blessing that I'm comfortable with the idea we might not win another WS for a while. But the Patriots? When your team is on the greatest run in the history of the the sports, you want to see how long that historic run can last before it's gone.
   2. BDC Posted: October 15, 2018 at 07:10 PM (#5767149)
Yeah, I was wondering where the demons emerged from, a couple of days after beating the Yankees in a playoff series :)
   3. oscar madisox Posted: October 15, 2018 at 08:15 PM (#5767173)
The demons left in 2004. While I want them to do well, there is no anxiety related to Boston's performance.


The same can be said of the Astros after last year. And although I certainly want another title for my team, I'm not stressing out like during the 2017 ALCS or WS. (It helps that they are not playing the Yankees.)

Anyway, these two teams are too good to worry about demons. Being tied 1-1 after two games shouldn't be unexpected. Neither team was going to sweep.

If you think, like I do, that this series is going the distance, both teams are due to lose a few more times.
   4. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 15, 2018 at 08:17 PM (#5767177)
I was wondering where the demons emerged from


The Boston media?
   5. Joe Bivens, Slack Rumped Rutabaga Head Posted: October 15, 2018 at 08:29 PM (#5767180)
I, like #1, did not flip the channel once last night. I watched the entire baseball game, because it's the playoffs, the Red Sox are playing the defending world champions, and, lastly, football doesn't rise to the level of even an inferior sport. It doesn't exist in my world. And, to boot, #### Bob Kraft, Bill Belicek, and Tom Brady for their support of Trump. May they all be concussed.
   6. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2018 at 08:33 PM (#5767186)
Thank you #5. I found this...

I did not flip channels a single time while the Patriots were on, even though it was a regular-season game.


to be the ramblings of a madman.

How can you call yourself a Red Sox fan(much less even a baseball fan) when you choose to watch a regular season NFL game over an ALCS game that features YOUR team?

   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 15, 2018 at 08:41 PM (#5767190)
If I were Steve Balboni, I'd fire that guy's ass.
   8. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: October 15, 2018 at 10:08 PM (#5767265)
So in other words, #1 was not worried about the 3-time World Series winner’s chance at another, but was mildly concerned about the 5-time Super Bowl champs’ playoff scenarios.. :)
   9. Answer Guy, without side hustles. Posted: October 16, 2018 at 08:39 AM (#5767419)
Yeah, I flipped channels quite a bit. Because there were a lot of pitching changes.
   10. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 16, 2018 at 08:42 AM (#5767422)
There was a football game?
   11. Answer Guy, without side hustles. Posted: October 16, 2018 at 09:20 AM (#5767454)
There was a football game?


Yeah. Even garden variety NFL games, sadly, usually beat playoff baseball in the ratings.

I forget what the rules are, but I know that NBC has some ability to switch out the 8 PM games and they stuck with that one despite the direct (and fairly foreseeable) conflict.
   12. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 16, 2018 at 10:18 AM (#5767517)
Yeah, I flipped channels quite a bit. Because there were a lot of pitching changes.

Each one of them accompanied by a Peyton Manning commercial. That alone was enough to keep me flipping.
   13. jmurph Posted: October 16, 2018 at 10:28 AM (#5767525)
I watched the Red Sox but followed every snap of the Patriots game on gamecast on my phone, but I never turned it on because I'm officially Not Watching Football Anymore. Somehow I've convinced myself that I've maintained the moral high ground doing this, but obviously that's a lie.
   14. SoSH U at work Posted: October 16, 2018 at 10:57 AM (#5767559)
I'm officially Not Watching Football Anymore.


Kaep haters of the world unite?

   15. jmurph Posted: October 16, 2018 at 11:15 AM (#5767575)
Kaep haters of the world unite?

Oh god no, I'm Team Kaep on that one.
   16. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: October 16, 2018 at 11:24 AM (#5767585)
What's more annoying, the older Red Sox fans who will keep whining until they die about being tortured by demons no matter how many World Series they win, or the younger Red Sox fans who are indistinguishable from Yankees fans in their smug entitlement?
   17. Nasty Nate Posted: October 16, 2018 at 11:29 AM (#5767591)
Should a team that has won three World Series in the last fifteen years really be talking about “postseason demons” at this point?
What's more annoying, the older Red Sox fans who will keep whining until they die about being tortured by demons no matter how many World Series they win
I will point out that this article is from some random Yahoo writer, and he is neither the Red Sox themselves nor writing as a fan.
   18. jmurph Posted: October 16, 2018 at 11:30 AM (#5767594)
What's more annoying, the older Red Sox fans who will keep whining until they die about being tortured by demons no matter how many World Series they win, or the younger Red Sox fans who are indistinguishable from Yankees fans in their smug entitlement?

Phillies fans of any age?

(Just kidding!)
   19. Answer Guy, without side hustles. Posted: October 16, 2018 at 11:33 AM (#5767596)
Oh god no, I'm Team Kaep on that one.


It's funny how the NFL is caught between two different groups of people who are unhappy with them, and how "I'm not watching the NFL" could be a bit of virtue signaling in either direction.
   20. jmurph Posted: October 16, 2018 at 11:39 AM (#5767603)
It's funny how the NFL is caught between two different groups of people who are unhappy with them, and how "I'm not watching the NFL" could be a bit of virtue signaling in either direction.

This is absolutely true. Well I don't really like virtue-signalling talk, to be honest, but even striking that you can say that people from all different political stripes have beef with the NFL.

Also my post was meant to be taken as poking fun at myself for being weak-willed, that's all.

The real reasons I've been trying and failing to kick the NFL for a decade now include: the time suck (when I already watch too many other sports), the head trauma frequently makes me feel complicit in a bad thing, Goodell is a monster, I hate how emotionally invested I get in the outcomes, and lastly I have two boys who I don't want to ever play tackle football so I don't want them to become too interested in it right now.

   21. , Posted: October 16, 2018 at 12:09 PM (#5767633)
What's more annoying, the older Red Sox fans who will keep whining until they die about being tortured by demons no matter how many World Series they win, or the younger Red Sox fans who are indistinguishable from Yankees fans in their smug entitlement?

Come on. That's simple: the Yankee fan is the most annoying fan in the universe. So, if you're indistinguishable from one, then whatever you're being compared to is less annoying.

At least those old guys really did go through decades of misery. It's like how your grandma would pinch and save like there may not be food tomorrow despite having four pantries. Weird, sometimes aggravating, but understandable.
   22. Answer Guy, without side hustles. Posted: October 16, 2018 at 01:04 PM (#5767691)
The real reasons I've been trying and failing to kick the NFL for a decade now include: the time suck (when I already watch too many other sports), the head trauma frequently makes me feel complicit in a bad thing, Goodell is a monster, I hate how emotionally invested I get in the outcomes, and lastly I have two boys who I don't want to ever play tackle football so I don't want them to become too interested in it right now.


No kids here, but otherwise same boat.

Also, NFL Red Zone is a pretty compelling product, as much as I hate to admit it. It's gotten to the point where trying to watch most NFL games is honestly a slog. (The portions of the Patriots-Chiefs game that I saw - the whole ending, mostly, after the baseball game wrapped - were unusually action-packed.) I pretty much never watch the Thursday or Monday games, and it probably takes a Patriots game for me to watch the Sunday prime time game (they're featured there quite frequently) after a whole afternoon of Red Zone unless for some reason I haven't been watching TV that day.

But there's not much baseball left, and the Red Sox are left, so that was an easy call.
   23. Tony S Posted: October 16, 2018 at 01:31 PM (#5767721)
I do follow the NFL, but I don't really start paying much attention until after the World Series. Not a whole lot gets settled in the early NFL season anyway...
   24. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: October 16, 2018 at 01:35 PM (#5767727)
I will point out that this article is from some random Yahoo writer, and he is neither the Red Sox themselves nor writing as a fan.
And I will add that the "demons" is entirely a creation of the headline writer, the article itself makes no reference to anything other than the lucky bounce of JBJ's wall-ball.
   25. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: October 16, 2018 at 01:37 PM (#5767731)
How can you call yourself a Red Sox fan(much less even a baseball fan) when you choose to watch a regular season NFL game over an ALCS game that features YOUR team?


Regular season football games are more important than playoff baseball games.


   26. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 16, 2018 at 01:51 PM (#5767753)
There was a similar scenario last night, when the Brewers were playing at the same time as the Packers. I've made my peace with it - the difference between football and baseball is that with baseball, if you miss tonight's game, there's probably another one tomorrow.

Plus, on Saturday, I went to a sports bar to get some dinner and literally couldn't even get a seat because the place was packed with Astros fans. And this wasn't in Houston.
   27. Answer Guy, without side hustles. Posted: October 16, 2018 at 04:10 PM (#5767912)
I think the writer is also referring to Price's teams losing every one of his post-season starts* until now.

* Is that right? I know his postseason record is not good.
   28. Sweatpants Posted: October 16, 2018 at 06:57 PM (#5768106)
Yes, his teams were 0-10 in his postseason starts before that win.
   29. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: October 16, 2018 at 10:27 PM (#5768368)
For the record, I watched the Red Sox game until it was over tonight, then flipped over to the season-opening Celtics game, with its lineup of Tatum/Brown/Hayward/Horford/Irving and ridiculously deep bench. 2018-2019 is the continuation of an unbelievable stretch, starting with the 2001 Patriots, to be a New Englander who loves sports. Unreal.
   30. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 16, 2018 at 10:30 PM (#5768374)
It’s amazing isn’t it? Very fortunate.
   31. Answer Guy, without side hustles. Posted: October 17, 2018 at 08:37 AM (#5768717)
It’s amazing isn’t it? Very fortunate.


All it took was for Answer Guy to move away. (1999)
   32. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 17, 2018 at 08:42 AM (#5768718)
What took you so long?
   33. Russ Posted: October 17, 2018 at 10:58 AM (#5768834)
. I did not flip channels a single time while the Patriots were on, even though it was a regular-season game.


Who has only one screen to watch sports on these days? There is no reason to choose. Put the less important game (NFL) on the iPad/phone/computer and the baseball game on the television. What's the point of living in our complete insane world if you're not at least going to take advantage of our ridiculously convenient modern technology?
   34. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 17, 2018 at 11:03 AM (#5768837)
Seriously. My general MO is to watch the baseball on my 24 inch screen which is below the 47" TV which I watch things like Top Gear, Man vs. Wild or Planet Earth. This saves me from having to listen to the commentary.

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