Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Wednesday, December 13, 2006

Red Sox, Matsuzaka agree to six-year contract

Can’t we talk about steroids or something?

The Original Gary Posted: December 13, 2006 at 08:14 PM | 155 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: japan, red sox

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

Page 2 of 2 pages  < 1 2
   101. Dave Bell Posted: December 14, 2006 at 01:44 AM (#2260820)
Back on Jan 3 just in time for the Syndey test. Off to play poker now, and Whistler tomorrow, but will jet you an email when I get back in a couple of days- you going to be in Sydney anytime soon?
   102. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 14, 2006 at 01:48 AM (#2260825)
Panesar and Mahmood in for Perth, if you hadn't seen.

Mahmood is in?? That's risky...

Off to watch the first session soon.

Dave - I'm not going to the Sydney test this year. Down in March maybe...

Mork - How you been?
   103. Dave Bell Posted: December 14, 2006 at 01:49 AM (#2260827)
Phil - I'm off too - Make sure we catch up if you come down in march.
   104. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 14, 2006 at 01:50 AM (#2260828)
In for Anderson who sux anyway...
   105. Mork Posted: December 14, 2006 at 01:57 AM (#2260831)
Been well, Phil - getting ready for a long, lazy summer! You?

It's kind of weird to say, but given the pitch and what I saw of Mahmood at the Champions Trophy, I'm not sure that I wouldn't have left Giles in the team and just swapped Monty for Anderson. Wouldn't be at all surprised if Mahmood gets carted, and bowlers with reputations for scoring useful lower order runs prior to coming up against Australia for the first time have a tendency to be found out (see Agarkar, Agit and Giles, Ashley - in his first series).

But I'm used to being plenty wrong on my sporting predictions, including what sort of deal it would take to sign Matsuzaka.
   106. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:01 AM (#2260833)
Hey Phil... didn't your manager just get sacked?
   107. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:06 AM (#2260837)
Hey Phil... didn't your manager just get sacked?

Yeh, Pards is gone but Curb your Enthusiasm mate as we just signed Curbishly...
   108. Andere Richtingen Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:27 AM (#2260858)
This is great. A Matsuzaka thread being hijacked by cricket!
   109. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:29 AM (#2260863)
I'm not saying anyone should be banned over it, but post 78 strikes me as more offensive than anything I ever saw Rob Base do.
   110. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:34 AM (#2260867)
I'd like to echo the earlier sentiments that post 78 is the sort of reprehensible "joke" that ought to be - and usually is - beyond the pale at this site. The non-apology afterwards was a real winner, too.
   111. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:34 AM (#2260868)
Yeh, Pards is gone but Curb your Enthusiasm mate as we just signed Curbishly...
Just in time to get walloped by Man U! That seems like a bizarre move to me
   112. Dixiechick Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:38 AM (#2260870)
This is important news! After spending a combined $209 million on Matsuzaka, Drew and Lugo, the Red Sox have likely bought themselves into the playoffs again with the NYY, the annual $200 million/yr team. Boy, it's a good thing Bud Selig's friends have told him how competitive MLB is, otherwise one would suspect it's a boring checkbook exercise of buying your way into the playoffs. Here are the AL East Champions over the last 12 years. 1995 New York Yankees 1996 New York Yankees 1997 New York Yankees 1998 New York Yankees 1999 New York Yankees 2000 New York Yankees 2001 New York Yankees 2002 New York Yankees 2003 New York Yankees 2004 New York Yankees 2005 New York Yankees 2006 New York Yankees.

Boy, any more competitive and we'd all be on life support! The Red Sox of course, figured this game out as well, and spend far more than anyone else other than the Yankees to buy their way into the playoffs. The AL East has become no more exciting than counting up payroll dollars and seeing which stack is higher.

So the best comment that can be made is, 'who cares'? May the Yankees and Red Sox sink in a hole somewhere.
   113. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:43 AM (#2260875)
Hey! #115 is totally unfair. The Orioles won the AL East in 1997. Wire-to-wire as a matter of fact. And the Sox in '95. Although if you were feeling sporty, you could include '94 in the Yankees' run.
   114. The Artist Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:51 AM (#2260880)



It's kind of weird to say, but given the pitch and what I saw of Mahmood at the Champions Trophy, I'm not sure that I wouldn't have left Giles in the team and just swapped Monty for Anderson. Wouldn't be at all surprised if Mahmood gets carted, and bowlers with reputations for scoring useful lower order runs prior to coming up against Australia for the first time have a tendency to be found out (see Agarkar, Agit and Giles, Ashley - in his first series).


Eh, I wouldn't leave Giles in against a schoolboy's 11. About time England picked the right team.
   115. Dave Bell Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:55 AM (#2260884)
Didn't Agarkar "score" 6 successive ducks a few years ago when he was in Australia?
   116. karlmagnus Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:56 AM (#2260887)
Phil was very gentlemanly in September '05, but it looks as if I shall be congratulating him again for the next 20 years or so. Bother.
   117. chris p Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:58 AM (#2260890)
so how many days until pitchers and catchers report? or are they playing a world baseball classic this year?
   118. Dixiechick Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:00 AM (#2260892)
#116 is right, and if ever there was an exception that proves the rule, he's hit on it well. Otherwise, I take it there is no exception to the comment that all this is about is which player is bought to buy your way into the post-season.
   119. Sean in Sydney Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:13 AM (#2260906)
It's traditional for pitchers and catchers to report when the Australian Cricket Season finishes. No jumping the gun :)
   120. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:16 AM (#2260910)
Phil was very gentlemanly in September '05, but it looks as if I shall be congratulating him again for the next 20 years or so. Bother.

If we don't have Warnie in England for the next Ashes we are goners.

Australia off to a good start, Hayden looks good and Harmison is all over the place again...
   121. Sean in Sydney Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:19 AM (#2260913)
BTW Heya Phil, Sean in Sydney here :)
   122. JC in DC Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:21 AM (#2260917)
How exciting is it going to be when NY goes to Boston and faces this guy, or when he pitches in Yankee stadium? I love this game.

I wish this guy well, but not too well.
   123. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:22 AM (#2260918)
I am getting sick and tired of Hayden, delete my last post!!!
   124. crickets Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:22 AM (#2260919)
This is great. A Matsuzaka thread being hijacked by cricket!

chirp chirp chirp ####### chirp
   125. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:24 AM (#2260926)
BTW Heya Phil, Sean in Sydney here :)

Hey mate, so your Dr Bob!!!

How you been??
   126. Dave Bell Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:24 AM (#2260927)
Yeah Phil, Langer has said he wants to play for a while longer, Jaques is bashing on the door, and Hayden looks like the odd man out at the moment.
   127. JC in DC Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:28 AM (#2260934)
####### Aussie #############.
   128. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:33 AM (#2260937)
Hey JC, how you been?
   129. Mork Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:34 AM (#2260938)

Eh, I wouldn't leave Giles in against a schoolboy's 11. About time England picked the right team.


Ordinarily, I'd agree, but you need 11 players.

Yeah Phil, Langer has said he wants to play for a while longer, Jaques is bashing on the door, and Hayden looks like the odd man out at the moment.

I can't for the life of me understand why the selectors didn't take advantage of Martyn's retirement to slot Jaques in at 6 to ease his way into test cricket, pending an elevation to open in due course. I thought it was the blindingly obvious thing to do, but then they went and picked Voges.

That said, I'd love to see Symonds stick this time.
   130. Schilling's Sprained Ankiel Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:35 AM (#2260940)
JC, I think you're just letting the debased discourse color your judgment.
   131. Dave Bell Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:36 AM (#2260941)
Symonds will need a hundred or a five for or Watson will be in for the last two tests (espesically if the series is dead). The selectors seem pretty committed to him long term.

Jaques will be in the series after this one I suspect. One of the openers will be given a nudge.
   132. The Artist Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:46 AM (#2260945)
Bloody hell! Harminson getting Ponting?
   133. JC in DC Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:51 AM (#2260948)
JC, I think you're just letting the debased discourse color your judgment.


Guilty as charged. But they're Australians, don't you know? We're talking about a people who idolize this guy!!!
   134. Sean in Sydney Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:56 AM (#2260951)
BTW Heya Phil, Sean in Sydney here :) Hey mate, so your Dr Bob!!! How you been??

Good :) Damn it looks like the DiceK news reports have frozen up - you can't tell me he's staying overnight at the hospital after his physical :)
   135. Mork Posted: December 14, 2006 at 03:57 AM (#2260953)
Damn it looks like the DiceK news reports have frozen up - you can't tell me he's staying overnight at the hospital after his physical :)

Probably watching the cricket.
   136. JC in DC Posted: December 14, 2006 at 04:06 AM (#2260958)
(Phil would know this, but I hope you guys understand I'm just kidding.)
   137. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 14, 2006 at 05:10 AM (#2260986)
(Phil would know this, but I hope you guys understand I'm just kidding.)

Of course!!

England way on top in the game, I am for once...NERVOUS!!!

Clarke and Hussey called upon again to save the day...

Sean, you dont use the mailing list anymore??Great to see you here anyway, I told you this place rocked a year ago!!!
   138. Sean in Sydney Posted: December 14, 2006 at 05:13 AM (#2260990)
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6266048

[...] "Theo and I were still negotiating terms when we arrived," agent Scott Boras said after a long day of talks with general manager Theo Epstein, "We finalizd the deal when he arrived in Boston." The Red Sox planned a 5 p.m. news conference Thursday to announce the deal, a person familiar with the talks said, speaking on condition of anonymity. Matsuzaka gets a $2 million signing bonus, $6 million next year, $8 million in each of the following three seasons and $10 million in each of the final two years. [...]
   139. Sean in Sydney Posted: December 14, 2006 at 05:15 AM (#2260991)
Yeah I do but the job I'm at has no access to webmail :) Yeah you're right Phil. Took a while for me to get my head around it - what a great service.
   140. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 14, 2006 at 05:15 AM (#2260992)

[...] "Theo and I were still negotiating terms when we arrived," agent Scott Boras said after a long day of talks with general manager Theo Epstein, "We finalizd the deal when he arrived in Boston." The Red Sox planned a 5 p.m. news conference Thursday to announce the deal, a person familiar with the talks said, speaking on condition of anonymity. Matsuzaka gets a $2 million signing bonus, $6 million next year, $8 million in each of the following three seasons and $10 million in each of the final two years. [...]


YIPPEE!!!!

That's a great deal, IMO. I mean it's only money, right??
   141. Sean in Sydney Posted: December 14, 2006 at 05:17 AM (#2260994)
A hospital might be the safest place to be watching this test (zomg).
   142. Sean in Sydney Posted: December 14, 2006 at 05:20 AM (#2260995)
That's a great deal, IMO. I mean it's only money, right??

It's _only money_ is why the Bosox are flying around courting WBC MVPs and not Tampa Bay.
   143. Sean in Sydney Posted: December 14, 2006 at 05:33 AM (#2261004)
There much better :)
   144. Honkie Kong Posted: December 14, 2006 at 06:20 AM (#2261026)
Where do you get a radio feed for the match anyway?
I caught parts of the Adelaie test, and gave up on the final day thinking it was a draw! sigh..

Harmison picking up wickets ..about time!
   145. Richard Posted: December 14, 2006 at 07:43 AM (#2261049)
Monty Panesar > Matsuzaka

And probably a bit cheaper as well...
   146. Honkie Kong Posted: December 14, 2006 at 09:11 AM (#2261059)
England needs a big first inning here now. the ozies just threw their wickets away, the pitch looked fairly innocuous by Perth standards
   147. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 14, 2006 at 09:29 AM (#2261062)
England are killing us, good win guys. See you in Melbourne...
   148. Honkie Kong Posted: December 14, 2006 at 10:14 AM (#2261063)
England are killing us, good win guys. See you in Melbourne...

not if the final hour was any indication. McGrath and Clark are going to run through Eng tomm
   149. depletion Posted: December 14, 2006 at 12:32 PM (#2261073)
Congrats to Red Sox for pulling this off. I underestimated the "disgrace to go back to Japan after farewell tour" factor.
   150. Richard Gadsden Posted: December 14, 2006 at 02:43 PM (#2261136)
England are killing us, good win guys. See you in Melbourne...

not if the final hour was any indication. McGrath and Clark are going to run through Eng tomm

Be interesting - if Panesar can get a fivefor, what will Warne do on the same wicket?
   151. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: December 14, 2006 at 11:05 PM (#2261751)
Well, the offending post 78 has been deleted. The new 78 is Phil objecting to the old 78. I support the news 78.
   152. Honkie Kong Posted: December 15, 2006 at 04:57 AM (#2262046)
Be interesting - if Panesar can get a fivefor, what will Warne do on the same wicket?

If eng lasts long enough for him to get an extended spell...The pre-lunch session was disaster for the poms
   153. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 16, 2006 at 03:58 AM (#2262982)
England are killing us, good win guys. See you in Melbourne...

I might have been a tad premature in my predictions...
Page 2 of 2 pages  < 1 2

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
aleskel
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogTrading Justin Upton means the Braves are in full rebuilding mode | Mark Bradley blog
(1 - 10:56am, Dec 19)
Last: JJ1986

NewsblogPadres Acquire Derek Norris – MLB Trade Rumors
(38 - 10:55am, Dec 19)
Last: Pops Freshenmeyer

NewsblogOT: Politics - December 2014: Baseball & Politics Collide in New Thriller
(4933 - 10:53am, Dec 19)
Last: Bitter Mouse

NewsblogThe 2015 HOF Ballot Collecting Gizmo!
(72 - 10:50am, Dec 19)
Last: Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - December 2014
(718 - 10:47am, Dec 19)
Last: Booey

NewsblogAre Wil Myers' flaws fixable? | FOX Sports
(110 - 10:47am, Dec 19)
Last: Ziggy

NewsblogDo MLB Owners Wield Sabermetrics as a Hammer? – The Hardball Times
(3 - 10:45am, Dec 19)
Last: Nasty Nate

NewsblogMax Scherzer not a realistic option, New York Yankees' Randy Levine says - ESPN New York
(11 - 10:36am, Dec 19)
Last: zonk

NewsblogThe 4 surprisingly quiet teams of the MLB offseason
(16 - 10:32am, Dec 19)
Last: jacksone (AKA It's OK...)

Newsblog2014 Disabled List Information and So Much More – The Hardball Times
(1 - 10:26am, Dec 19)
Last: RoyalsRetro (AG#1F)

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1960 Ballot
(8 - 10:17am, Dec 19)
Last: bjhanke

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 12-19-2014
(6 - 10:13am, Dec 19)
Last: Rennie's Tenet

NewsblogJerry Crasnick on Twitter: "Jake Peavy has agreed on 2 yr deal with
(5 - 10:09am, Dec 19)
Last: Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer

NewsblogRoyals sign Kris Medlen to two-year deal - MLB Daily Dish
(27 - 9:36am, Dec 19)
Last: The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy

NewsblogOT: NFL/NHL thread
(9160 - 9:20am, Dec 19)
Last: Pops Freshenmeyer

Page rendered in 0.3612 seconds
48 querie(s) executed