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Saturday, February 09, 2013

Red Sox prospect suffers gun related injury

More than a few eyebrows were raised when Boston Red Sox outfield prospect Bryce Brentz wasn’t one of the 19 non-roster players invited to this year’s spring training. As it turns out, his exclusion was for good reason, as he recently suffered a gun-related injury.

WEEI’s Alex Speier first reported that, earlier this offseason, Brentz suffered an injury to his leg when cleaning a gun at his home.

Boston general manager Ben Cherington clarified to Speier exactly what happened:

  He was cleaning a gun and it accidentally went off. The bullet went into his leg and out the other side. I guess you could say he got lucky relative to what happened.

  Fortunately for him it’s something he’s going to recover from and be fine and won’t affect his baseball career.

The Providence Journal’sTim Britton reported that Brentz had a bullet pass completely through one of his legs. He was fortunate to not strike any bone or muscles that would have required much longer recovery time.

Slapinions Posted: February 09, 2013 at 05:46 PM | 35 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. puck Posted: February 09, 2013 at 08:40 PM (#4366263)
It's just a flesh wound.
   2. The District Attorney Posted: February 09, 2013 at 08:45 PM (#4366265)
Brentz tried to keep this quiet because he heard Josh Reddick "had a gun" and he didn't want to get traded.
   3. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: February 09, 2013 at 08:51 PM (#4366267)
Can't trust him with a beer, but a dangerous weapon is just fine. What a country.
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: February 09, 2013 at 09:03 PM (#4366269)
Can't trust him with a beer, but a dangerous weapon is just fine. What a country.


I'm not sure I follow.
   5. spike Posted: February 09, 2013 at 09:11 PM (#4366273)
If under 21, one can't buy a drink, but can legally own/purchase a weapon
   6. SoSH U at work Posted: February 09, 2013 at 09:14 PM (#4366275)

If under 21, one can't buy a drink, but can legally own/purchase a weapon


He's 24.

I understand the objections to that issue in general, but it doesn't have anything to do with Brentz.
   7. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: February 09, 2013 at 09:31 PM (#4366281)
My brother-in-law was 19 when his state's liquor laws jumped from 18 to 21. Don't think it changed his drinking habits any.
   8. Bhaakon Posted: February 09, 2013 at 09:32 PM (#4366284)
If under 21, one can't buy a drink, but can legally own/purchase a weapon


I'd be more worried when those activities coincide rather than when they're exclusive.
   9. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: February 09, 2013 at 09:38 PM (#4366286)
He's 24.

Yeah my bad. Skimmed the excerpt, and somehow got age 19 stuck in my head. I'll try and read for comprehension next time.

If he's 24, he can't be much of a prospect though.
   10. MM1f Posted: February 09, 2013 at 09:46 PM (#4366290)
If he's 24, he can't be much of a prospect though.


He is a pretty good prospect, not any kind of a future star or anything but a RF with a strong arm who can hit some homers.
   11. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: February 09, 2013 at 09:58 PM (#4366292)
I took a gun safety class when I was 16 that had an instruction sheet for the fundamentals of cleaning your gun. It was basically, "Check that the firearm is unloaded. Get your cleaning rags. Check that the firearm is unloaded. Get your cleaning rod. Check that the firearm is unloaded. Get your cleaning solvent. Check that the firearm is unloaded..." If you're shooting yourself in the leg you're doing something very, very wrong.
   12. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: February 09, 2013 at 10:13 PM (#4366296)
"I shot myself cleaning my gun" is code for "I shot myself doing something stupid, and i'm going to pretend it was while i was cleaning my gun."
   13. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: February 09, 2013 at 10:22 PM (#4366303)
He is a pretty good prospect, not any kind of a future star or anything but a RF with a strong arm who can hit some homers.
I mean, he's a better prospect than most minor leaguers, but I'd put Brentz's odds of actually contributing to a major league team at 1 in 5 at best. He's rough in the field, he strikes out too much, his only really good numbers came in low-A when he was way too advanced for the competition. But he has major league power and hasn't embarrassed himself in the high minors, so he's a bit of a prospect.

He's certainly enough of a prospect that he shouldn't be such a ####### dumbass to shoot himself in the leg.
   14. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: February 09, 2013 at 10:36 PM (#4366311)
This terrible tragedy could have been avoided if only there had been a gun in the home.
   15. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: February 09, 2013 at 10:49 PM (#4366323)
"I shot myself cleaning my gun" is code for "I shot myself doing something stupid, and i'm going to pretend it was while i was cleaning my gun."


Ayup.
   16. Bug Selig Posted: February 09, 2013 at 10:52 PM (#4366326)
Can't trust him with a beer, but a dangerous weapon is just fine. What a country.


Yeah, because gun-related deaths are so prevalent compared to alcohol-related deaths.

   17. Tripon Posted: February 09, 2013 at 11:13 PM (#4366333)
A lot more people drink vs. the people who own guns.
   18. Adward Posted: February 09, 2013 at 11:32 PM (#4366338)
He was cleaning a gun and it accidentally went off.


I am not a lawyer, but it appears(after two minutes of American Googling) only the military legally differentiates between an accidental discharge(AD) and an unintentional negligent discharge(ND). Even treating ADs as preventable NDs. Shooting wildly into the air exemplifying intentionally negligent. If a worn sear leads to a loaded firearm going bang, you'd have an AD. If you wrap your booger hook around the bang switch and make the gun go bang without counting on a bullet coming out, that's an ND.

Spoiler Warning. NSFW Warning.

Retroshoot? Negligent discharge play-by-play.

Rocco in Boondock Saints. A mechanical "failure", but still negligent. ? NSFW

Vincent in Pulp Ficiton. ND NSFW

Policeman in La Haine. ND unless you think it was deliberate. NSFW
   19. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: February 09, 2013 at 11:47 PM (#4366342)
Rumor has it he was actually washing his truck instead.
   20. SteveF Posted: February 10, 2013 at 12:00 AM (#4366347)
A lot more people drink vs. the people who own guns.


30% own guns and 67% drink. I think I would have guessed higher on the drinking and lower on the guns, but that's likely a product of being in the Northeast.

Unfortunately, I suspect there's a fair bit of overlap between the group of gun owners and drinkers.
   21. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: February 10, 2013 at 12:44 AM (#4366356)
I'm still stuck on the phrase "gun-related injury". As if "shot himself" was too graphic a headline. Or too close to the truth.

I guess I'm too "old skool" for this over-hyphenated obfuscated vernacular which has taken over. nvm.
   22. I Am Not a Number Posted: February 10, 2013 at 01:02 AM (#4366360)
Wayne Lapierre says that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Is Brentz schizophrenic?
   23. AJMcCringleberry Posted: February 10, 2013 at 01:08 AM (#4366362)
If you're shooting yourself in the leg you're doing something very, very wrong.

I don't think you need to take a gun safety class to figure this out.
   24. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: February 10, 2013 at 09:48 AM (#4366402)
Perhaps he caught himself committing a crime, and should be applauded?

I just checked Window's Task Manager. IE takes a freaky amount of Memory Usage to run a given browser window. No wonder their market share is plunging. They have more resources than anyone. What's going on?
   25. Darren Posted: February 10, 2013 at 11:14 AM (#4366417)
I think MC has it right about Brentz. Interesting pop in his bat, great arm, but Ks a ton. I could see him giving up hitting in a couple years and trying to make it as a pitcher.
   26. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) Posted: February 10, 2013 at 11:24 AM (#4366427)
I just checked Window's Task Manager. IE takes a freaky amount of Memory Usage to run a given browser window. No wonder their market share is plunging. They have more resources than anyone. What's going on?


How much does it show IE is using?
   27. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: February 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM (#4366439)
I've got three pages with a total of 18 tabs open, and task manager shows ten iexplore.exe's averaging 210,000 K each.

Fwiw, when I use chrome, chrome averages well under 90,000 k per chrome.exe.
   28. TerpNats Posted: February 10, 2013 at 11:52 AM (#4366443)
So the Bosox avoided their own Stratton story.
   29. Tripon Posted: February 10, 2013 at 12:46 PM (#4366481)
I've got three pages with a total of 18 tabs open, and task manager shows ten iexplore.exe's averaging 210,000 K each.

Fwiw, when I use chrome, chrome averages well under 90,000 k per chrome.exe.


When I was using Firefox, it still had that annoying glitch of sucking up any virtual memory it can get its hands on. On a computer that had only 2 gigs of memory, it would take 1.5 gigs of it if it ran long enough. Switching to Chrome makes more sense.
   30. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: February 10, 2013 at 12:52 PM (#4366485)
When I was using Firefox, it still had that annoying glitch of sucking up any virtual memory it can get its hands on

This depends at least as much on what's in the pages that you have loaded. Weather Undergound's personal weather station map was notorious for leaking memory, but they must have repaired it because it is well behaved now. Crappy script coders can make your browser do lots of undesirable things. NoScript keeps certain sites from loading and running scripts, which saves bandwidth and cpu cycles where judiciously applied.

But the days of Firefox being "smaller, faster, better" are in the past.
   31. Walt Davis Posted: February 10, 2013 at 05:16 PM (#4366650)
Given Congress's deep concern for the health of Major League players, I am sure we will see hearings on widespread gun ownership in MLB. Schilling will testify that he thinks it's probably only about 7 players that own guns.

I shot myself doing something stupid

As opposed to shooting yourself doing something smart?

I'm still stuck on the phrase "gun-related injury". As if "shot himself" was too graphic a headline. Or too close to the truth.

C'mon. "Shot himself" will have everyone thinking he committed or attempted suicide or at least shot himself intentionally. Granted, "prospect accidentally shoots himself" or "prospect involved in gun accident" would be smoother than "gun-related injury" ... which presumably also includes getting hit in the head by the gun after the bad guy throws it at you because he's out of bullets.

   32. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: February 10, 2013 at 06:07 PM (#4366697)
Weirdest, most abrupt hijack ever.

I also have memory leakage problems and while Chrome is better, it's not significantly cleaner than IE or FF. Of course this is probably because I'm using a 5-year old poorly maintained laptop running Vista.
   33. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: February 10, 2013 at 06:30 PM (#4366716)
I've got three pages with a total of 18 tabs open, and task manager shows ten iexplore.exe's averaging 210,000 K each.


What are you doing with 18 open tabs? I go crazy if I have more than 3.
   34. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: February 10, 2013 at 06:43 PM (#4366725)
I keep running into glitches on the various browsers I've used on my 5-month-old laptop; in semi-desperation, a few days ago I downloaded Opera, which I hadn't used since my dial-up days. So far, so good.
   35. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: February 10, 2013 at 11:16 PM (#4366843)
I've got three pages with a total of 18 tabs open, and task manager shows ten iexplore.exe's averaging 210,000 K each.

What are you doing with 18 open tabs? I go crazy if I have more than 3.


50's more my speed, but I'm having trouble tweaking Opera so it accepts voice commands, so I'm taking a break. IE can't handle 50, but Chrome often can. Opera was very good at simply bookmarking idle pages and dumping the memory involved from cache when I had a lot of tabs open. I've usually got three research projects going at once, with input from other folks, so it's useful to be able to move between one and the next and keep all the tabs handy. There are another five tabs I keep open for frequently used pages, like BBRef, which I assume everyone does. I have a project, building a cabin with a FPSFoundation, and that takes around eight tabs to nudge the various aspects forward, including three semi-live comment exchanges... That and odds and ends usually gets me to around 50 tabs.

What's weird about IE is that it keeps some pages cycling. A BTF
thread does that. A few other sites do that, too, though not all of them allow comments, so it isn't commenting that keeps them permanently loading.

By the way, where can I send a money order to support this site-- Anyone know a physical address?

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