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Red Sox reportedly testing ‘performance bedding’ for new ‘sleep room’ at Fenway Park

After all, babies need their afternoon naps.

Captain Supporter Posted: February 27, 2017 at 09:53 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. PreservedFish Posted: February 27, 2017 at 12:42 PM (#5409380)
Once, on the michrofiche machine at my college, I stumbled across a 1990 Bill James review of Syd Thrift's book. Now it's available microfiche-free. Anyway, the above reminds me of his review:

Mr. Thrift advocates that baseball teams experiment with all kinds of scientific and quasi-scientific minutiae. He wants clubhouse walls repainted because he subscribes to the findings of James Nash Ott, the retired director of the Environmental Light and Health Research Institute in Sarasota, Fla. Mr. Thrift quotes the good doctor: ''light, the electromagnetic spectrum, interacts through the wavelength absorption of different chemicals with the food and minerals we take into our system.'' He is convinced that repainting the outfield fence, using full-phase lighting and changing the color of the bill of the players' caps can significantly improve a team's performance.


The review is pretty harsh:

Mr. Thrift espouses ''a simple philosophy: If something can be seen it should be measured, and once it is measured you can then improve upon it.'' Having said this, he stops every few pages to inveigh against the use of statistics in baseball, leaving one to wonder exactly how he plans to measure everything...

Somewhere on the road, he apparently discovered the mother lode of self-aggrandizing bull. What this book really is is an attempt by Mr. Thrift to portray himself as a modern, enlightened, forward-thinking general manager, a campaign that is undermined by his habit of firing off knee-jerk opinions rooted in the worst kinds of old-school baseball dogma.


I was reading this around 2002 and it was a source of great hilarity to me because Thrift was one of the principle butts of jokes for the statheads at the time. As you all remember yourselves.

The book is available for 1 penny on Amazon.
   2. SoSH U at work Posted: February 27, 2017 at 12:55 PM (#5409394)
I hope they're able to find a mattress store somewhere in the area.
   3. Nasty Nate Posted: February 27, 2017 at 01:03 PM (#5409398)
They were waiting until Clay was traded so that the sleep room pillowcases didn't constantly get stained.
   4. snowles Posted: February 27, 2017 at 02:12 PM (#5409484)
Check the hammock district.
   5. BDC Posted: February 27, 2017 at 02:30 PM (#5409500)
Chicken trays and beer-cup holders are in the specs.
   6. Khrushin it bro Posted: February 27, 2017 at 03:22 PM (#5409544)
I don't normally think of "performance bedding" and sleep together.
   7. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: February 27, 2017 at 04:09 PM (#5409569)
Does David Price have a clause in his contract where he has his own bed while all the pre-arb players have to share one king size?
   8. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: February 27, 2017 at 04:17 PM (#5409576)
One can only hope that the mattresses have just the right sink and just the right bounce.
   9. GGC Posted: February 27, 2017 at 04:42 PM (#5409594)
  4. snowles Posted: February 27, 2017 at 02:12 PM (#5409484)
Check the hammock district.


They should've signed Hammerin Hank Scorpio.
   10. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: February 27, 2017 at 04:48 PM (#5409600)
Jokes aside this is the kind of thing I don't get why teams don't do. Stuff like this, nutrition, comfort on flights and buses, it just all seems like low hanging fruit for an organization to deal with.
   11. The Yankee Clapper Posted: February 27, 2017 at 04:54 PM (#5409602)
The illustration in the article suggests some rather close quarters. Not really fitting for multi-millionaires, or even the minimum salary guys. Seems more likely to be used by the the clubhouse attendants, but perhaps naps during rain delays will be the next great MLB innovation.
   12. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: February 27, 2017 at 08:52 PM (#5409719)
Sure, continue to mock. Some teams slug their way to the title, some teams pitch their way there, the Sox will nap their way to the world series this year, you can sleep on that!

   13. Walt Davis Posted: February 27, 2017 at 09:49 PM (#5409742)
Performance bedding? Clearly this requires XTREME bedding.
   14. Sweatpants Posted: February 28, 2017 at 01:01 AM (#5409801)
Once again Bobby Valentine proves himself one of the most forward-thinking men in baseball.
   15. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: February 28, 2017 at 01:23 AM (#5409802)
What's the booze for then?
   16. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: February 28, 2017 at 08:19 AM (#5409820)
The illustration in the article suggests some rather close quarters. Not really fitting for multi-millionaires, or even the minimum salary guys. Seems more likely to be used by the the clubhouse attendants, but perhaps naps during rain delays will be the next great MLB innovation.
Don't worry, the Yankees version will have a moat around it.
   17. Adam Starblind Posted: February 28, 2017 at 08:35 AM (#5409824)
Like Tim Robbins in Bull Durham?
   18. Textbook Editor Posted: February 28, 2017 at 01:31 PM (#5410093)
Jokes aside this is the kind of thing I don't get why teams don't do. Stuff like this, nutrition, comfort on flights and buses, it just all seems like low hanging fruit for an organization to deal with.


I think quite a few Premiere League teams now have facilities at the training ground so players can sleep between training sessions, and I know I've read several articles where physios working for clubs have emphasized that just making sure you get at least 8 hours of sleep per night has a very positive effect on preventing injuries, recovering from injuries, etc... The soccer world has been on this for a while now; I'm also somewhat mystified why more North American teams don't do this sort of thing (no matter what sport it is)...
   19. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: February 28, 2017 at 01:39 PM (#5410100)
Mr. Thrift espouses ''a simple philosophy: If something can be seen it should be measured, and once it is measured you can then improve upon it.'' Having said this, he stops every few pages to inveigh against the use of statistics in baseball, leaving one to wonder exactly how he plans to measure everything...

Somewhere on the road, he apparently discovered the mother lode of self-aggrandizing bull. What this book really is is an attempt by Mr. Thrift to portray himself as a modern, enlightened, forward-thinking general manager, a campaign that is undermined by his habit of firing off knee-jerk opinions rooted in the worst kinds of old-school baseball dogma.


I was reading this around 2002 and it was a source of great hilarity to me because Thrift was one of the principle butts of jokes for the statheads at the time. As you all remember yourselves.

Thrift may be the butt of a lot of jokes, but he also assembled the core of the Pirates team that won 3 straight division championships before free agency took its toll.
   20. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: February 28, 2017 at 01:46 PM (#5410112)
he also assembled the core of the Pirates team that won 3 straight division championships before free agency took its toll.

That might be an interesting project for Strat-O-Matic.... would would that Pirates team have fared had they chosen to sink their big-money free agent dollars into Barry Bonds instead of Andy VanSlyke? Or was it always a foregone conclusion that Barry was heading to San Francisco as soon as he could?
   21. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: February 28, 2017 at 02:15 PM (#5410141)
I was going to say something about Thrift getting lucky in drafting Bonds. More interesting, the top of the 1985 draft was stacked. BJ Surhoff was actually a solid #1, but he gets dwarfed by Will Clark at #2, who gets dwarfed by Barry Larkin at #4, who gets absolutely buried by Bonds at #6. Rafael Palmeiro was drafted later in the first round, and Randy Johnson went in the second. Hell, even a lot of the mediocrities in the first round were pretty good -- Bobby Witt won 142 games, Joe Magrane won an ERA title, Joey Cora made an All-Star team, Tommy Greene threw a no-hitter, Gregg Jefferies led the league in doubles and had a couple of really big years, Walt Weiss and Brian McRae had respectable careers, and Pete Incaviglia was incredibly impressive even if he wasn't all that good.

Tino Martinez was drafted in the third round, David Justice in the fourth. It's not until the 5th that you find a round without a 25 WAR player.

That might be an interesting project for Strat-O-Matic.... would would that Pirates team have fared had they chosen to sink their big-money free agent dollars into Barry Bonds instead of Andy VanSlyke? Or was it always a foregone conclusion that Barry was heading to San Francisco as soon as he could?
The Giants signed Bonds for 6/$44 million, while Van Slyke's extension was 3/$12.6 million. I think money was as much of an issue as anything.

A more interesting question is what would have happened if Ted Simmons had overridden Jim Leyland's veto and traded Bonds to the Braves for Alejandro Pena and some magic beans. Bonds would've replaced Ron Gant in the '92 outfield. If the Braves had managed to re-sign him then maybe they don't sign Maddux in the same offseason, and the 1990s in the National League start to look a lot different.
   22. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: February 28, 2017 at 02:22 PM (#5410147)
There once was a restaurant in downtown Atlanta called B.E.D., where you ate your meal from, you guessed it, in bed. I can't imagine why it didn't last....
   23. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: February 28, 2017 at 03:13 PM (#5410223)
The bed-based restaurant/bar thing was a worldwide trend in the mid-late aughts, believe it or not. I once went to a place in Chapel Hill that I think was called Bedz, that was open for all of about 3 weeks. It was a bad idea for about a million different reasons.
   24. Hysterical & Useless Posted: February 28, 2017 at 04:25 PM (#5410321)
I've never cared for eating food in bed....
   25. Hank G. Posted: February 28, 2017 at 07:53 PM (#5410460)
There once was a restaurant in downtown Atlanta called B.E.D., where you ate your meal from, you guessed it, in bed. I can't imagine why it didn't last....


Because eating Crackers in B.E.D. brought in the Vice Squad?
   26. Hank G. Posted: February 28, 2017 at 07:56 PM (#5410462)
Jokes aside this is the kind of thing I don't get why teams don't do. Stuff like this, nutrition, comfort on flights and buses, it just all seems like low hanging fruit for an organization to deal with.


Maybe they think the terrible conditions in the minors makes the player hungrier? Seems like it would pay dividends to ensure that the minor leaguers were eating decent meals. The could have a free mess hall for the players at home; that couldn’t cost them more that a few million.

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