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Red Sox sign Grady Sizemore to one-year deal

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The Red Sox have signed Grady Sizemore, the former Cleveland Indians center fielder, who hasn’t played in the major leagues since 2011.

According to a report by CBS Sports, the one-year deal was for $750,000 but is loaded with incentives up to $6 million.

Sizemore, 31, has battled a plethora of injury problems and has had several surgeries on his right knee and back. He had been in negotiations with the Cincinnati Reds as well.

 

Repoz Posted: January 22, 2014 at 08:47 PM | 55 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. TerpNats Posted: January 22, 2014 at 09:05 PM (#4644717)
Elsa (Betty White's character on "Hot In Cleveland," who on one episode said Grady Sizemore was her favorite Tribe player) isn't going to like this.
   2. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: January 22, 2014 at 09:15 PM (#4644721)
Great signing. A win-win with big upside for the Sox and Sizemore. Give JBJr something to think about as well.
   3. PreservedFish Posted: January 22, 2014 at 09:25 PM (#4644725)
Is it more likely that Grady Sizemore returns to his peak than it is for any random player (say Ben Revere or Jemile Weeks) to break out? I have a tough time characterizing this as a big upside move.
   4. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: January 22, 2014 at 09:30 PM (#4644729)
It's not a minor league deal, either.
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 22, 2014 at 09:31 PM (#4644731)
Is it more likely that Grady Sizemore returns to his peak than it is for any random player (say Ben Revere or Jemile Weeks) to break out? I have a tough time characterizing this as a big upside move.

Yeah, I don't see it.

The guy hasn't played in MLB since 2011. He hasn't been decent since 2009.

Any kind of major comeback would basically be unprecedented, wouldn't it?
   6. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: January 22, 2014 at 09:39 PM (#4644733)
It's $750K if it doesn't work out. If he wins the friggin' MVP, it's $6 milliom for a year.

They are not counting on him to do anything - they have Bradley Jr, and they can play Victorino in CF if things shake out the wrong way.

And as a diehard Red Sox fan who had ZERO expectation for the 2013 Red Sox except to hopefully begin incorporating young talent onto the big-league roster (Bogaerts alone allowed me to check off this box in 2013), I can't believe I am saying this for 2014: I don't really care. They have earned enough goodwill from 2013 to last a few years, anyway. Just keep moving the young talent up the pipeline, and into Boston.

Grady Sizemore's signing does nothing to inhibit this goal, and it makes Spring Training more interesting for fans.
   7. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: January 22, 2014 at 09:40 PM (#4644734)
It would be the hitting version of Scott Kazmir.
   8. madvillain Posted: January 22, 2014 at 09:56 PM (#4644746)
Eh, it's a roster spot lost, that's the downside. But I guess they have a spot open on the 40 man now, and a spot on the active roster if he's not a dead cat.
   9. eddieot Posted: January 22, 2014 at 09:59 PM (#4644750)
Somewhere Ruben Amaro just threw a chair.
   10. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:07 PM (#4644754)
The guy I thought of when I heard about this was Eric Chavez. I suppose it is unlikely that he will have the kind of year Chavez had a couple of years ago but he's worth the gamble. I always liked Sizemore so I'm looking forward to seeing him and hopeful it will work out.
   11. Lars6788 Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:13 PM (#4644758)
He doesn't have to play 140 games or get 500 at-bats - he just has to be relatively productive in whatever spot the Red Sox put him in.

I have my doubts on his health - but I suppose the talent is still there to do some things - even as a fourth outfielder / part time role player for a contender.
   12. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:17 PM (#4644759)
Somewhere Ruben Amaro just threw a chair.

A rocking chair.
   13. Darnell McDonald had a farm Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:20 PM (#4644762)
Very flippable deal if he shows anything in spring, there are at least 42 teams that need a CF
   14. AndrewJ Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:29 PM (#4644772)
Somewhere Ruben Amaro just threw a chair.

No, he sprang into action by signing Ted Sizemore.
   15. PreservedFish Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:30 PM (#4644773)
Grady Sizemore's signing does nothing to inhibit this goal, and it makes Spring Training more interesting for fans.


This is not a defense of the deal as being one of "big upside." It's a defense of the deal as being harmless. I agree, it's harmless.
   16. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:31 PM (#4644774)
Any kind of major comeback would basically be unprecedented, wouldn't it?


It was a little different, but Josh Hamilton had a pretty insane comeback.
   17. JJ1986 Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:38 PM (#4644778)
Mark Mulder scoffs at a player sitting out only 2 years.
   18. Dale Sams Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:39 PM (#4644779)
This is not a defense of the deal as being one of "big upside." It's a defense of the deal as being harmless. I agree, it's harmless.


Not so much if JbJ and Sizemore do well in ST, so Carp is either cut or traded for beans...then one week later Sizemore's arm falls off.
   19. PreservedFish Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:45 PM (#4644783)
#18 - Fair enough. Let's call it a medium-upside, medium-downside deal.
   20. Sonic Youk Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:51 PM (#4644785)
I wonder if a healthy Sizemore can still play CF, the way Chavez was still a useful 3b in his reincarnation. The depth options for centerfield are pretty bad, in an otherwise deep 40 man roster.
   21. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: January 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM (#4644786)
I'm not seeing a lot of downside to this deal. If he is able to play above replacement level, it's a plus for Boston. If not, he gets approximately what the Dodgers will be paying Kershaw for 5IP of work.
   22. Srul Itza Posted: January 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM (#4644801)
This is ashtray money for a fifth outfielder.
   23. Nasty Nate Posted: January 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM (#4644808)
I bet that we'll forget this deal signing happened by June.
   24. McCoy Posted: January 22, 2014 at 11:32 PM (#4644811)
Does he have a All-Star braek opt out clause? Wouldn't want him to take advantage of the Red Sox.
   25. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM (#4644812)
Any kind of major comeback would basically be unprecedented, wouldn't it?


Any kind of major comeback wouldn't even be unprecedented among guys who played outfield for the Indians during the 2004-05 seasons.

   26. DanG Posted: January 23, 2014 at 12:21 AM (#4644843)
Any kind of major comeback would basically be unprecedented, wouldn't it?
Eric Davis, 1996, is the best parallel that comes to mind.
   27. rickey steals third person Posted: January 23, 2014 at 01:29 AM (#4644864)
Julio Franco?
   28. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 23, 2014 at 01:58 AM (#4644873)
Julio Franco?


He never sat out any full seasons. He just played in different countries.

I think if Sizemore were to enjoy a major comeback, Jody Gerut would be as close a comp as you're going to find. Both will have sat out two complete seasons, and both are five or more years removed from their peak.
   29. J in the Slope Posted: January 23, 2014 at 02:00 AM (#4644875)
The comp here is Fernando Tatis. His last good year was in 2000 in St. Louis. Three bad years in Montreal from 2001-2003, ending with a 41 OPS+ in 175 ABs.
Popped up in 2006 for Baltimore for 56 decent at bats.
Won a job with the Mets in 2008 and hit .297/.369/.484 in 273 ABs. Stuck around for another decent year and a bad year.

Tatis had seven years of ineptitude and injuries between good years. Sizemore's younger than Tatis was during his resurgence. It can happen.
   30. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: January 23, 2014 at 02:03 AM (#4644876)
Bo Jackson slugged .507 with the Angels with an artificial hip. It can happen.
   31. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 23, 2014 at 05:43 AM (#4644901)
I kind of hate to say it, but this reminds me of the Red Sox signing Rocco Baldelli in 2009. For Sizemore's sake, I hope this turns out better than that did.
   32. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: January 23, 2014 at 08:44 AM (#4644921)
so Carp is either cut or traded for beans...then one week later Sizemore's arm falls off.


If the best you can do is wring your hands about the future of Mike Carp, and don't think the downside is that low.
   33. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: January 23, 2014 at 10:56 AM (#4644960)
Any kind of major comeback wouldn't even be unprecedented among guys who played outfield for the Indians during the 2004-05 seasons.


I think if Sizemore were to enjoy a major comeback, Jody Gerut would be as close a comp as you're going to find. Both will have sat out two complete seasons, and both are five or more years removed from their peak.


And i thought you were talking about Ryan Ludwick. Though, upon further review, Ludwick was more of a "came out of nowher" story.
   34. sinicalypse Posted: January 23, 2014 at 10:58 AM (#4644962)
i once nicked an AAA vermont expos #24 jersey for ~$20 off of e-bay. i used to like to tell drunken people @ bars/games that it's an old grady sizemore jersey.... but then the whole coffee-cup incident coupled with his precipitous decline almost-immediately thereafter kind of put the kibosch on that.

it's ian desmond who stands tall as the last expos-draftee/prospect doing something decent in the bigs, right?
   35. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: January 23, 2014 at 11:03 AM (#4644971)
it's ian desmond who stands tall as the last expos-draftee/prospect doing something decent in the bigs, right?


Cliff Lee

edit: And Brandon Phillips.

edit 2.0: Holy crap. I just realized than those three guys (Sizemore, Lee, and Phillips) were all in the Colon trade.
   36. Random Transaction Generator Posted: January 23, 2014 at 12:26 PM (#4645030)
These are the "Last Playing Expos Standing" (played at least one game in an Expos uniform), who played in 2013:
Luis Ayala
Jamey Carroll
Endy Chavez
Bruce Chen
Bartolo Colon
Scott Downs
Brendan Harris
Maicer Izturis
Ted Lilly
Jon Rauch

These are the "Last Drafted Expos Standing" (who were drafted by the Expos), who played somewhere in 2013:
(and had some MLB experience)
Bill Bray - AA
Ian Desmond  
Collin Balester - AAA
Chad Cordero - AAA
Jerry Owens - AAA
Daryl Thompson - AAA
Luke Montz  
Joe Bisenius - AAA
Jim Henderson  
Lance Zawadzki - AAA
Mike O'Connor - AAA
Jason Bergmann - AA
Sean White - AAA
Jon Link - AAA
Tim Wood - AAA
Ross Wolf  
Cliff Lee  
Shawn Hill - AAA
Jason Bay 
Russell Martin  
Jeff Karstens - AA
 Brandon Phillips  
Val Pascucci - AAA
Jamey Carroll 
Henry Mateo - AAA

So Jamey Carroll is the last Expo standing who was both drafted and played for them at some point in his career.
   37. JJ1986 Posted: January 23, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4645036)
Russell Martin might have been drafted by the Expos, but he definitely didn't sign with them.
   38. Random Transaction Generator Posted: January 23, 2014 at 12:37 PM (#4645040)
That's true. He was drafted in 2000 by the Expos, but didn't sign.
Same with Ross Wolf (in 2001).
I haven't checked any of the players that have fallen back to the minors.
   39. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: January 23, 2014 at 01:09 PM (#4645064)
Bo Jackson slugged .507 with the Angels with an artificial hip. It can happen.


36 year-old Darryl Strawberry slugged .542 in 100 games for the 1998 Yankees--he was seven years removed from his last useful season at that point.

35 year-old Ruben Sierra for the 2001 Rangers slugged .561 in 370 PAs. In the four years before that, he played a grand total of 86 games (and missed the 1999 season entirely).

So...yeah. This has worked out well a couple times. I'm sure there are other examples from before I started following baseball, too.
   40. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 23, 2014 at 01:19 PM (#4645072)
These are the "Last Drafted Expos Standing" (who were drafted by the Expos), who played somewhere in 2013:


Tom Brady is still active.
   41. Accent Shallow Posted: January 23, 2014 at 01:20 PM (#4645074)
i once nicked an AAA vermont expos #24 jersey for ~$20 off of e-bay. i used to like to tell drunken people @ bars/games that it's an old grady sizemore jersey.... but then the whole coffee-cup incident coupled with his precipitous decline almost-immediately thereafter kind of put the kibosch on that.

I remembered what that was just in time to avoid Googling "Grady Sizemore coffee cup" at work.

Whew.
   42. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 23, 2014 at 01:20 PM (#4645075)
These are the "Last Playing Expos Standing" (played at least one game in an Expos uniform), who played in 2013:


Miguel Batista played briefly (and badly) for Toronto's AAA affiliate last year.
   43. Nasty Nate Posted: January 23, 2014 at 01:24 PM (#4645076)
These are the "Last Drafted Expos Standing" (who were drafted by the Expos), who played somewhere in 2013:


add Tom Brady.

(and had some MLB experience)


nevermind.
   44. BDC Posted: January 23, 2014 at 01:29 PM (#4645083)
Darren Daulton comes to mind; he had one pretty good year left in him (1997) after being severely limited by injury for the few years previous.

Of earlier players, I think of Jim Hickman, though Hickman was not that great a player in the first place. He broke his wrist in 1966, which was almost neither here nor there, as he was playing his way out of a job with the Mets before he got hurt. Hickman was back in AAA the spring he turned 31, but then won a job with the Cubs and the rest is history. Ephemeral history, but all the same …
   45. Random Transaction Generator Posted: January 23, 2014 at 01:35 PM (#4645085)
These are the "Last Drafted Expos Standing" (who were drafted by the Expos), who played somewhere in 2013:


add Tom Brady.


To quote a late show great: "I did not know that. That is wild and wacky stuff."
   46. Lyford Posted: January 23, 2014 at 02:08 PM (#4645099)
Here's a good center fielder returning to MLB at age 31 after missing more than two full seasons:

Joe DiMaggio
1942 - .305/.376/.498/.875, OPS+ 147
1943-1945 - Did not play
1946 - .290/.367/.511/.878, OPS+ 142

Obviously, very different circumstances, but...

Washington's Stan Spence also played CF at age 31. He had only missed one full season.
1944 - .316/.391/.486/.877, OPS+ 155
1945 - Did not play
1946 - .292/.365/.497/.861, OPS+ 145

Luke Appling missed his age 37 season and hit .368/.478/.526/1.005, OPS+ 195 as a 38 year-old. Tommy Henrich hit .251/.358/.411/.769, OPS+ 113 as a 33 year-old after missing three full seasons.

If Sizemore cannot physically stay healthy enough to play MLB, then he'll cost the Red Sox $750,000 and a roster spot and some time spent determining that. If he can, then age and time missed aren't adequate reasons to think that he couldn't have another one or two good seasons.

So it's a good signing. The likeliest scenario is that he gives them almost nothing and costs them almost nothing. There's a small potential for a positive contribution that outweighs any of the likely costs. But he can't hurt them unless he's a) healthy b) bad and c) in the lineup every day. Which would be the manager's fault.
   47. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 23, 2014 at 02:13 PM (#4645103)
Kevin Elster had TWO weirdly successful comebacks.
   48. boteman Posted: January 23, 2014 at 02:23 PM (#4645113)
So Jamey Carroll is the last Expo standing who was both drafted and played for them at some point in his career.

...and he just might again. The Nats invited him to Spring Training, but told him to bring the beer.
   49. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 23, 2014 at 02:30 PM (#4645123)
add Tom Brady.




3 of the 4 conference championship QBs were all MLB draft picks, and the 4th (Peyton Manning) was a teammate of Todd Helton.
   50. JJ1986 Posted: January 23, 2014 at 02:33 PM (#4645126)
I had no idea Kaepernick played baseball.
   51. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 23, 2014 at 02:41 PM (#4645130)
I had no idea Kaepernick played baseball.


He didn't! He chose the NFL.

He didn't play in college either. The Cubs drafted him anyway. He was an All-state pitcher in HS in California.
   52. Karl from NY Posted: January 23, 2014 at 03:19 PM (#4645163)
I had no idea Sizemore had missed any years. I just assumed he was still rattling around on the bench in Cleveland or maybe KC or somewhere.
   53. michaelplank has knowledgeable eyes Posted: January 23, 2014 at 07:41 PM (#4645381)
I wonder if a healthy Sizemore can still play CF, the way Chavez was still a useful 3b in his reincarnation. The depth options for centerfield are pretty bad, in an otherwise deep 40 man roster.


I wonder if Kate Upton would like to go ice fishing with me this weekend.

Sizemore was > Ellsbury, no? But that was a long time ago.
   54. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: January 23, 2014 at 08:54 PM (#4645403)
Sizemore was > Ellsbury, no?


Now that he's on the Red Sox, yes!
   55. TDF, situational idiot Posted: January 23, 2014 at 08:56 PM (#4645404)
Sizemore was > Ellsbury, no?
More like >>>

Sizemore was better and played more - he had 4 consecutive years of 700+ PA and 5.5+ bWAR; Ellsbury has 4 years of 600+ PA, only 2 in a row once, and 2 seasons (again, non-consecutive) as good as any of Sizemore's 4 best.

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