Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Thursday, October 04, 2012

Reds moving speedster prospect Billy Hamilton to outfield

The name gets even more appropriate.

Fastest man in baseball Billy Hamilton has spent his four-year pro career as a shortstop, but reviews of his defense there have always been mixed and the Reds have decided the 21-year-old prospect’s amazing speed can be more of an asset in center field…

Hamilton set the all-time minor league record by stealing 155 bases in 132 games between high Single-A and Double-A, and did so while also hitting .311 with a .410 on-base percentage.

The District Attorney Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:38 PM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: billy hamilton, minor leagues, reds

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:47 PM (#4254440)
Might have something to do with Drew Stubbs' continued de-evolution as a hitter. 61 OPS+ in 2012.
   2. UCCF Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:00 PM (#4254457)
I think you'd have to be crazy not to do everything you could to get this kid to the majors. Very few players have game changing speed on the bases, particularly these days. Teams don't staff themselves with cannon arms behind the plate like they had to in the 1970s and 1980s. A guy who could get on base at a .360-.370 clip at the top of the lineup might be good for 100 steals a year.
   3. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:08 PM (#4254479)
Tony Campana is fast. If you can't get on base and or turn that speed into amazing defense it is mostly useless.
   4. cardsfanboy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:27 PM (#4254507)
A guy who could get on base at a .360-.370 clip at the top of the lineup might be good for 100 steals a year.


If he gets on at that clip, he would probably only need about 30 steals and average defense to be a plus player. If he can get on in the .330-.340 range he is going to provide value. Moving him to center, provided he can do it, is a no brainer, infield doesn't really need speed as much as it needs flexibility and reaction time.
   5. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:39 PM (#4254518)
Now all he needs to be a full-fledged second coming is the Sammy Sosa skin treatment and some measles scars.
   6. TDF, situational idiot Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:00 PM (#4254545)
Might have something to do with Drew Stubbs' continued de-evolution as a hitter.
Or the fact that Hamilton has 70 errors over the past 2 seasons at SS.

As for Stubbs, I wonder if the work to lower his K rate has either (a) screwed up the rest of his swing, (b) if he's thinking so much about not striking out that he isn't thinking about actually hitting the ball solidly or (c) both?
   7. valuearbitrageur Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:11 PM (#4254558)
He didn't play much baseball for a few years, correct? Focused on football? If so I think he could have eventually figured out the infield. But if he can figure out center faster, do it yesterday.
   8. Boxkutter Posted: October 04, 2012 at 08:22 PM (#4254652)
Might have something to do with Drew Stubbs' continued de-evolution as a hitter.


Also with them not needing another middle infielder. Phillips just signed a long term deal, and Cozart was a rookie this past season. His OBP was low, but he has always fared better his second time through a league, and he provides pretty decent pop for a plus-defender at SS.
   9. Mike Emeigh Posted: October 04, 2012 at 09:54 PM (#4254718)
As for Stubbs, I wonder if the work to lower his K rate has either (a) screwed up the rest of his swing, (b) if he's thinking so much about not striking out that he isn't thinking about actually hitting the ball solidly or (c) both?


Probably (c).

I have never understood why people thought Stubbs was ever going to amount to much as a major league player anyway. He's always had the swing and miss in his game and never looked particularly likely to develop enough power to overcome that.

-- MWE

   10. Athletic Supporter is trying to remember your name Posted: October 04, 2012 at 09:59 PM (#4254724)
I am shocked to find out that Hamilton was not already an outfielder.
   11. sunnyday2 Posted: October 05, 2012 at 06:31 AM (#4254854)
A CF speedster named Billy Hamilton? What next. A young slugger named Babe Ruth? A pitcher named Cy or Grover or Walter?
   12. just plain joe Posted: October 05, 2012 at 08:33 AM (#4254876)
A pitcher named Cy or Grover or Walter?


Cy Grover would be an awesome name for a pitcher.
   13. Walt Davis Posted: October 05, 2012 at 08:35 AM (#4254877)
Sheesh, the closest thing to a Walter in MLB right now is Aaron Walter Hill. A couple of active Walters in the minors.

The last real Grover in MLB appears to be Grover William "Deacon" Jones in 1966. William Grover Slayback in 1974 if you want to count him.

Hold on a second, I just discovered the greatest name in baseball history.

I kid you not.

Ladies and gentlemen ...

Mr. Grover Frisbee
   14. Tippecanoe Posted: October 05, 2012 at 09:06 AM (#4254893)
I like Orval Overall. Grover Overall would be great, too.

Coco Crisp is the active leader.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Dingbat_Charlie
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogThe Secrets of Baseball Management | FOX Sports
(2 - 1:13pm, Sep 02)
Last: Mark Armour

NewsblogCubs content to make do down stretch to playoffs - Chicago Tribune
(10 - 1:13pm, Sep 02)
Last: SoSHially Unacceptable

NewsblogElvis Andrus explains how he pulled off his straight steal of home in beautiful pantomime | MLB.com
(3 - 1:12pm, Sep 02)
Last: The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott)

NewsblogThe plan appears simple enough: The Miami Marlins this week will ask Dan Jennings to step down as manager and resume his role as GM, according to major-league sources. | FOX Sports
(7 - 1:12pm, Sep 02)
Last: boteman asks Where's My Ring?

NewsblogThe Screwball: Comedy Is in the (Baseball) Cards – The Hardball Times
(3 - 1:11pm, Sep 02)
Last: WSPanic

NewsblogHardballTalk: Unknown Cuban ballplayer sleeps outside of Dodger Stadium, hoping for a tryout
(2 - 1:09pm, Sep 02)
Last: dr. scott

NewsblogNotable Sept. 1 Callups - BaseballAmerica.com
(7 - 1:09pm, Sep 02)
Last: RoyalsRetro (AG#1F)

NewsblogForbes: Maury Brown: MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred Rejects Reinstatement Of 'Shoeless' Joe Jackson
(40 - 1:07pm, Sep 02)
Last: DanG

NewsblogOTP - September 2015: Making Sense Of The Republican Presidential Race: It's Like Major League Baseball In August
(258 - 12:58pm, Sep 02)
Last: Srul Itza

NewsblogOT: Soccer August 2015
(640 - 12:49pm, Sep 02)
Last: ursus arctos

NewsblogFan dies in fall from upper deck at Turner Field | www.ajc.com
(291 - 12:40pm, Sep 02)
Last: You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR)

NewsblogBabe Ruth’s Former New York Apartment Can Be Bought For Just $1.6M (Photos) | MLB | NESN.com
(16 - 12:36pm, Sep 02)
Last: Ricky

NewsblogMike Mussina's Hall of Fame case is strong, so why aren't voters buying it?
(68 - 12:33pm, Sep 02)
Last: alilisd

NewsblogBatting title would put Cabrera in elite club | FOX Sports
(13 - 12:30pm, Sep 02)
Last: BDC

NewsblogKelvin Herrera, Alex Rios infected as chickenpox hits Royals’ clubhouse
(12 - 12:12pm, Sep 02)
Last: DJS From Suplex City!

Page rendered in 0.2164 seconds
44 querie(s) executed