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Thursday, October 04, 2012

Reds moving speedster prospect Billy Hamilton to outfield

The name gets even more appropriate.

Fastest man in baseball Billy Hamilton has spent his four-year pro career as a shortstop, but reviews of his defense there have always been mixed and the Reds have decided the 21-year-old prospect’s amazing speed can be more of an asset in center field…

Hamilton set the all-time minor league record by stealing 155 bases in 132 games between high Single-A and Double-A, and did so while also hitting .311 with a .410 on-base percentage.

The District Attorney Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:38 PM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: billy hamilton, minor leagues, reds

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   1. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:47 PM (#4254440)
Might have something to do with Drew Stubbs' continued de-evolution as a hitter. 61 OPS+ in 2012.
   2. UCCF Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:00 PM (#4254457)
I think you'd have to be crazy not to do everything you could to get this kid to the majors. Very few players have game changing speed on the bases, particularly these days. Teams don't staff themselves with cannon arms behind the plate like they had to in the 1970s and 1980s. A guy who could get on base at a .360-.370 clip at the top of the lineup might be good for 100 steals a year.
   3. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:08 PM (#4254479)
Tony Campana is fast. If you can't get on base and or turn that speed into amazing defense it is mostly useless.
   4. cardsfanboy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:27 PM (#4254507)
A guy who could get on base at a .360-.370 clip at the top of the lineup might be good for 100 steals a year.


If he gets on at that clip, he would probably only need about 30 steals and average defense to be a plus player. If he can get on in the .330-.340 range he is going to provide value. Moving him to center, provided he can do it, is a no brainer, infield doesn't really need speed as much as it needs flexibility and reaction time.
   5. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:39 PM (#4254518)
Now all he needs to be a full-fledged second coming is the Sammy Sosa skin treatment and some measles scars.
   6. TDF, situational idiot Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:00 PM (#4254545)
Might have something to do with Drew Stubbs' continued de-evolution as a hitter.
Or the fact that Hamilton has 70 errors over the past 2 seasons at SS.

As for Stubbs, I wonder if the work to lower his K rate has either (a) screwed up the rest of his swing, (b) if he's thinking so much about not striking out that he isn't thinking about actually hitting the ball solidly or (c) both?
   7. valuearbitrageur Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:11 PM (#4254558)
He didn't play much baseball for a few years, correct? Focused on football? If so I think he could have eventually figured out the infield. But if he can figure out center faster, do it yesterday.
   8. Boxkutter Posted: October 04, 2012 at 08:22 PM (#4254652)
Might have something to do with Drew Stubbs' continued de-evolution as a hitter.


Also with them not needing another middle infielder. Phillips just signed a long term deal, and Cozart was a rookie this past season. His OBP was low, but he has always fared better his second time through a league, and he provides pretty decent pop for a plus-defender at SS.
   9. Mike Emeigh Posted: October 04, 2012 at 09:54 PM (#4254718)
As for Stubbs, I wonder if the work to lower his K rate has either (a) screwed up the rest of his swing, (b) if he's thinking so much about not striking out that he isn't thinking about actually hitting the ball solidly or (c) both?


Probably (c).

I have never understood why people thought Stubbs was ever going to amount to much as a major league player anyway. He's always had the swing and miss in his game and never looked particularly likely to develop enough power to overcome that.

-- MWE

   10. Athletic Supporter was shiny, now he's all rusted Posted: October 04, 2012 at 09:59 PM (#4254724)
I am shocked to find out that Hamilton was not already an outfielder.
   11. sunnyday2 Posted: October 05, 2012 at 06:31 AM (#4254854)
A CF speedster named Billy Hamilton? What next. A young slugger named Babe Ruth? A pitcher named Cy or Grover or Walter?
   12. just plain joe Posted: October 05, 2012 at 08:33 AM (#4254876)
A pitcher named Cy or Grover or Walter?


Cy Grover would be an awesome name for a pitcher.
   13. Walt Davis Posted: October 05, 2012 at 08:35 AM (#4254877)
Sheesh, the closest thing to a Walter in MLB right now is Aaron Walter Hill. A couple of active Walters in the minors.

The last real Grover in MLB appears to be Grover William "Deacon" Jones in 1966. William Grover Slayback in 1974 if you want to count him.

Hold on a second, I just discovered the greatest name in baseball history.

I kid you not.

Ladies and gentlemen ...

Mr. Grover Frisbee
   14. Tippecanoe Posted: October 05, 2012 at 09:06 AM (#4254893)
I like Orval Overall. Grover Overall would be great, too.

Coco Crisp is the active leader.

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