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Sunday, July 31, 2011

RedSox.com: Red Sox acquire Bedard in three-team deal

The Red Sox traded four Minor Leaguers in the deal, three of whom—catcher Tim Federowicz, pitcher Stephen Fife and righty Juan Rodriguez—went to the Dodgers for outfielder Trayvon Robinson. The Red Sox then dealt Robinson and outfielder Chih-Hsien Chiang to the Mariners to complete the exchange for Bedard. Boston also acquired Minor League reliever Josh Fields, a right-hander, from the Mariners in the deal.

Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 31, 2011 at 10:26 PM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dodgers, mariners, minor leagues, red sox

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   1. The District Attorney Posted: July 31, 2011 at 10:33 PM (#3889903)
Calcaterra tweet:
Theo: Hey Jack, I want Bedard, and you want a top prospect for him, which I won't give up. What's say you and I call Ned? Jack Giddyup!
   2. zachtoma Posted: July 31, 2011 at 10:35 PM (#3889906)
Who's worser: Ed Wade or Ned Colletti?
   3. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 31, 2011 at 10:37 PM (#3889908)
[2] Meh. Ned Colletti has been terrible, but in this case, I've never heard of any of the four players involved in the Dodgers' part of this deal. *shrugs*
   4. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 31, 2011 at 10:45 PM (#3889909)
in this case, I've never heard of any of the four players involved in the Dodgers' part of this deal. *shrugs*


The OF the Dodgers gave up was their #4 on BA's preseason list. Toolsy, athletic, and putting up a .900+ OPS in AAA.

The guys the Dodgers are getting are a good-glove backup catcher and two future relievers.
   5. MM1f Posted: July 31, 2011 at 10:47 PM (#3889910)
I can't figure out why Coletti is being mocked for this one. I think the Dodgers did well here to turn Robinson into these guys
   6. MM1f Posted: July 31, 2011 at 10:48 PM (#3889911)
Toolsy, athletic, and putting up a .900+ OPS in AAA.

... in Albequerque, where your mom could hit 15 bombs or so.
   7. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: July 31, 2011 at 10:51 PM (#3889913)
After Harden's David Foster Wallace penned medical history even Erik Bedard looks like a horse, I guess.
   8. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: July 31, 2011 at 10:57 PM (#3889915)
John Sickels posted a report on Robinson about a week ago, giving him a B+ rating:


A 5-10, 200 pound switch-hitter, Robinson was a speedster with little power earlier in his career. His power output has steadily improved, although the 26 homers his year looks somewhat fluky to me, given that he's hit just nine doubles. Albuquerque is a great place to hit, but his home/road splits are almost even: .974 OPS at home, .952 on the road, so the home park isn't completely responsible for this. The PCL itself is great for hitting in general, of course, so the entire context itself has some inflation involved. Applying an Major League Equivalent translation to his numbers gives us an approximate .240/.310/.430 line slash line playing in Dodger Stadium and the National League.

Robinson has good bat speed from both sides of the plate, but is aggressive and strikes out frequently. He'll take walks and knows how to work a count, but scouts say he sometimes sells out his hitting approach for power, which has worked in Triple-A but might cause problems once major league pitchers see him a few times. Although he's stolen just eight bases this year, he has plus speed. His technique still needs some refinement, but he should get into double-digit steals in the majors if given the green light often enough. His arm is below average, but he has enough range to handle center field and is even more effective when used in left field.
   9. bads85 Posted: July 31, 2011 at 11:03 PM (#3889916)
The OF the Dodgers gave up was their #4 on BA's preseason list. Toolsy, athletic, and putting up a .900+ OPS in AAA.


With 43 unintentional walks and 122 Ks. The guy has struck out 697 times in 668 minor league games while only walking 267 times. Guys like that get almost always carved up in the majors, and Robinson's plate discipline is getting worse, not better.

Edit: That being said, the guys the Dodgers received aren't any great shakes. Rodriguez is the only one with bona fide major league talent, and he is a reliever.
   10. JJ1986 Posted: July 31, 2011 at 11:05 PM (#3889917)
I don't know much about the other two, but I like Federowicz more than Robinson by himself.
   11. bads85 Posted: July 31, 2011 at 11:06 PM (#3889918)
He'll take walks and knows how to work a count, but scouts say he sometimes sells out his hitting approach for power, which has worked in Triple-A but might cause problems once major league pitchers see him a few times.


Right -- he was the Andy Marte of Albuquerque.
   12. SteveF Posted: July 31, 2011 at 11:08 PM (#3889921)
Yeah. Good contact skills are pretty important for minor league players. Remember Dallas McPherson? (Though in his defense he did have two vertebrae fused together.)
   13. Dale Sams Posted: July 31, 2011 at 11:56 PM (#3889931)
Well, the good news is, the last time the Sox acquired a pitcher named Eric(k) whom I wasn't crazy about...they won the World Series.
   14. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: August 01, 2011 at 12:06 AM (#3889937)

Well, the good news is, the last time the Sox acquired a pitcher named Eric(k) whom I wasn't crazy about...they won the World Series.


Also Canadian
   15. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: August 01, 2011 at 12:12 AM (#3889940)
Canadian Erics are the postseason secret ingredient.
   16. MM1f Posted: August 01, 2011 at 12:21 AM (#3889941)
Canadian Erics are the postseason secret ingredient.


I hear Eric Cyr is available from the California Penal League
   17. Mattbert Posted: August 01, 2011 at 12:22 AM (#3889943)
Based on the Sickels report in #8, sounds like the Red Sox should've just traded Carl Crawford for Robinson straight up and called it a day.
   18. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: August 01, 2011 at 12:28 AM (#3889947)
... in Albequerque, where your mom could hit 15 bombs or so.


Well, it's not like he assigned himself to Albuquerque. That's the Dodgers' AAA affiliate.

And if you're going to be playing in Albuquerque, it's better to be playing well there than to not, isn't it?
   19. mathesond Posted: August 01, 2011 at 03:03 AM (#3890040)
But is a 900 OPS in Albuquerque considered playing well?
   20. JJ1986 Posted: August 01, 2011 at 03:12 AM (#3890046)
But is a 900 OPS in Albuquerque considered playing well?


Robinson's puts him in company with AJ Ellis, Jay Gibbons and Jerry Sands. And far below Trent Oeltjen.
   21. Tripon Posted: August 01, 2011 at 03:18 AM (#3890052)
Even if you lop off 200 off a .938 OPS(Which is what Robinson had this year), a .738 OPS would be above average for a hitter.
   22. JJ1986 Posted: August 01, 2011 at 03:39 AM (#3890062)
The average OPS in the PCL is .813 and that's before the park factor.
   23. akrasian Posted: August 01, 2011 at 03:48 AM (#3890065)
Obviously Robinson could improve - but I think they are more likely to get value from Federowicz. The system is empty of catchers at the moment, and at the least he should be an acceptable AAA guy for the next 3 years, ready to ride the shuttle to LA whenever a catcher is hurting. And if he improves a bit, maybe actually have a role with the team.
   24. Knock on any Iorg Posted: August 01, 2011 at 04:06 AM (#3890071)
The key point that everyone has missed so far is that the middle initial of Juan Rodriguez is D.

So he did get traded after all.
   25. Mudpout Posted: August 01, 2011 at 10:09 AM (#3890114)
Theo believes injury-prone Canadian starters with 888 career strikeouts are the new market inefficiency.
   26. Swoboda is freedom Posted: August 01, 2011 at 10:51 AM (#3890115)
... in Albequerque, where your mom could hit 15 bombs or so.

Well, his mom is 6'4" and weighs 220.

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