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Monday, February 11, 2019

Report: Mariners still intend to trade Edwin Encarnación

The Mariners acquired DH Edwin Encarnación as part of a three-team trade that involved the Indians and Rays back in December. The Indians received Jake Bauers and Carlos Santana, the Rays got Yandy Diaz and minor leaguer Cole Sulser, and the Mariners got Encarnación, cash, and a 2019 competitive balance pick.

After winning 89 games last season, the Mariners held a fire sale, trading James Paxton to the Yankees; Alex Colomé to the White Sox; Robinson Canó and Edwin Díaz to the Mets; and Jean Segura, Juan Nicasio, and James Pazos to the Phillies. According to Ryan Divish of The Seattle Times, Encarnación could be next. The club informed him of its intention to move him after bringing him to Seattle and it seems that is still the case.

Encarnación, 36, has one year remaining on his contract at $20 million along with a 2020 club option worth $20 million with a $5 million buyout. Last season with the Indians, he hit .246/.336/.474 with 32 home runs and 107 RBI in 579 plate appearances. The Mariners could pounce on an opportunity if a 1B/DH type on another team suffers an injury during spring training.

Will the last member of the Mariners be sure to turn off the lights on their way out?

 

QLE Posted: February 11, 2019 at 05:36 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: edwin encarnacion, mariners, white flag

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   1. vortex of dissipation Posted: February 11, 2019 at 12:57 PM (#5814300)
Will the last member of the Mariners be sure to turn off the lights on their way out?


I must be old. I actually remember seeing that billboard.
   2. base ball chick Posted: February 11, 2019 at 01:12 PM (#5814314)
tanking ROOLZ. it is fun to have a team that can't be bothered to put good players on the field because then we can root for the billionaire owners making more and more money
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 11, 2019 at 01:18 PM (#5814321)
Probably safe to say that about every player in the organization.
   4. Davo Has Marianne Mindset Posted: February 11, 2019 at 02:27 PM (#5814363)
I think they’re gonna be stuck with him.
   5. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: February 11, 2019 at 02:33 PM (#5814368)
Given this offseason's salary deflation, I doubt there will be much of a market of Encarnacion at $20m. He's still a decent player, but they'll need to pay most of his salary to get anything for him.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: February 11, 2019 at 03:48 PM (#5814402)
Basically every team has a hole at DH. Only Cruz (Sea), EE (Cle), K Davis (Oak) qualified, the retired VMart came close. Most teams didn't have anybody get to 400 PAs, a couple of teams didn't even have anybody top 200 PAs. (No surprise, pretty much always been that way.)

For his career, EE has been a decent 1B (-6 per 150). All those years in Toronto he was pretty much 50/50 at 1B/DH and the last two years he's still picked up 20 starts a year there, so he's not entirely useless defensively. Still it's hard to find a fit. He works for NYY or Bos only as a 100+ start 1B which doesn't sound like a good idea. Tor has Kendrys, TB is cheap, Bal is in AAA, Twins signed Cruz, CWS have Abreu, Cle already traded him and have Santana, Det and KC are in AAA, Oak has Davis, LAA has Ohtani/Pujols, Hou has Gurriel/Gattis. Tex maybe if Sea picks up enough money and they want Gallo in the field.

Cruz 38, EE 36, Morales 36, VMart retired -- DH'ing is not a young man's game. (No surprise.) If they're all healthy, JDM will probably spend more time there this year. And Davis is just 31.
   7. SandyRiver Posted: February 11, 2019 at 03:55 PM (#5814404)
EE has had declining OPS+ in recent years. Another 2 at that rate and he'll be around league average. Maybe he has a David Ortiz bounce back, but odds (and history, as few do that and Ortiz was recovering from injury not age) are against him.
   8. DFA Posted: February 11, 2019 at 05:09 PM (#5814421)
In 2018, among players with 500 plate appearances, EE was 57th in wOBA. It is puzzling that the interest in him is tepid, especially if the Mariners kick in some of his salary. An unfortunate consequence of only half the teams in the American League actually trying to make the playoffs.
   9. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: February 11, 2019 at 06:26 PM (#5814455)
Walt, I feel like #6 is conspicuously missing one JD Martinez (400 PA as DH, 249 split between right and left field).
   10. bbmck Posted: February 11, 2019 at 11:01 PM (#5814507)
300+ PA in games at DH in 2018 or 100+ PA and .800+ OPS, OPS only in games as DH:

607 - Khris Davis .883
572 - Nelson Cruz .854
498 - Victor Martinez .645
485 - Edwin Encarnacion .819
433 - Evan Gattis .761

400 - JD Martinez .970
389 - Kendrys Morales .775
387 - Shin-Soo Choo .831
380 - Giancarlo Stanton .942
345 - Shohei Ohtani .915

297 - CJ Cron .842
203 - Ji-Man Choi .833
145 - Robbie Grossman .805
100 - Lucas Duda .937
   11. Lonnie Smith for president Posted: February 12, 2019 at 08:08 AM (#5814529)
Dipoto must have received a stern tsk-tsk from highers up in MLB to cease and desist in advance of January's moratorium on anything very interesting happening. Whether he's off their leash for February and beyond remains to be seen, but Double-E is not a great fit for what constitutes the 2019 Mariners. He and Jay Bruce, among the various misfit toys, are unlikely to get their swerve on playing half the schedule as Seattle's home nine.

Can there be DH challenge trades? Among those listed above, Choo's game could be a nice fit for the park known formerly as Safeco, and Double-E would find some pop in Arlington (provided the Rangers would give him regular ABs over Calhoun or whoever), but right, one crisis at a time...

BBC and others, yes, belly-flopping is a particularly bad look for the Mariners right now. Not that they were really as good as their 2018 record promised, but after Houston, the Ms weren't obviously worse than any other West team. They're also doing the Scrooge McDuck swim through silver dollars after signing over the park's naming rights to T-Mobile and after assigning the park's repair & upkeep responsibilities to King County. Perhaps those windfalls empowered them to make over the roster, perhaps they served as sufficient distraction for Dipoto's compulsive wheelings and dealings, and perhaps we'll never know in an era where only a plurality of AL teams are assembled for the purpose of contention. Or... youneverknow?
   12. Walt Davis Posted: February 12, 2019 at 10:58 PM (#5814769)
Walt, I feel like #6 is conspicuously missing one JD Martinez (400 PA as DH, 249 split between right and left field).

Not qualified at DH. JDM, like lots of players, is a qualified batter who spent time at DH -- in his case a lot of time. And, as I said, if the rest of the OF are healthy, he'll probably qualify at DH ... and I did not list them as a team that needed a DH (EE only fits there if he plays mostly 1B). But 400 PA (93 starts) at DH leaves about 300 PA to cover. (More specifically 267-278 depending on whether PH as DH is double-counted or not.) I wouldn't consider a 400 PA second-baseman to be a starting 2B even if he's a Zobrist type who is still a starting player.

Alternatively, since anybody can DH, no team has a hole at DH.

Cruz 572, Davis 607 ... and I was off a bit, EE is only at 484, VMart at 498, Gattis at 433 are the only guys over 400. It's mostly always been that way ... 2-3 teams have genuine starting DHs, another 3-4 team have guys who get most of the starts at DH but far from "nearly every day", most everybody else is a mixed bag. But for completeness

Yanks -- Stanton who got and probably will get plenty of OF time
Red Sox -- JDM who got plenty of OF time but may be more of a full-time DH this year
Jays -- Morales who was hurt and spent about 15% of his time at 1B (17 of 108 starts)
CWS -- Abreu and Alonso in who knows what mix of 1B and DH
Cle -- Santana and Bauers in some 1B/DH/somewhere combo I assume
Minn -- Cruz
Oak -- Davis
LAA -- Ohtani, Pujols, etc.
Hou -- oops, Gattis is an FA, Gurriel still at 1B as far as I know, so EE could fit here. (Had no idea Hou had signed Michael Brantley.)

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