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Saturday, November 28, 2009

Report: Selig to Step Down in 2012

Bud Selig has declined an overture from a group of baseball owners asking him to stay on after his contract ends in 2012, the Chicago Tribune reported, citing unnamed sources.

According to the report, the sources said a group of five owners approached Selig, asking him to stay on. That approach led to his taking the job when Fay Vincent was forced out of the commissioner’s office 1992, and to his agreeing to a contract extension last year.

According to sources, Selig, who is 75, told the group of owners he will step aside in 2012 in order to pursue other interests while he’s still able, the newspaper reported.

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   1. TerpNats Posted: November 29, 2009 at 12:05 AM (#3398253)
Okay, so who succeeds him? Alderson?
   2. i'm not STEAGLES and you shouldn't be either Posted: November 29, 2009 at 12:14 AM (#3398256)
Okay, so who succeeds him? Alderson?
hopefully. there's the potential for a lot of headaches if the transition isn't lightning fast. this group of owners has been handpicked over the last 20 or so years, and the only thing that's kept their interests aligned has been their loyalty to selig for giving them each of these 30 cash cows. with him gone, there's nothing to keep them aligned in lockstep behind him.

although, to throw out an analogy, people thought apple would die when steve jobs took a leave of absence, but they had a lot more talent behind him than anyone realized. i think MLB's situation could be a lot worse than that if separate owners go for a power grab, but it could also be less than a hiccup.
   3. fra paolo Posted: November 29, 2009 at 12:15 AM (#3398258)
It's going to be interesting to see how the owners handle this. They've had one of their own now for 20 years. More of the same? Or is it back to getting in an outsider? Or will it be an 'insider' who is not an owner? In which case, the patron of that 'insider' is going to prove he has a lot of clout.

Time for Kim Ng, maybe?
   4. YR Denies Jesus Montero Posted: November 29, 2009 at 12:22 AM (#3398259)
Hank Steinbrenner, of course.
   5. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: November 29, 2009 at 12:27 AM (#3398260)
Sure he is.
   6. pinball1973 Posted: November 29, 2009 at 12:32 AM (#3398264)
Since I possess a stomach and would therefore be sickened by investigating this matter personally, would anyone like to tell me some of the creatures in ownership even more determined to poison professional baseball than B.S.?
   7. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:02 AM (#3398278)
Somewhere, Doug Pappas is counting down in anticipation.
   8. Lassus Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:15 AM (#3398283)
although, to throw out an analogy, people thought apple would die when steve jobs took a leave of absence, but they had a lot more talent behind him than anyone realized.

MLB corporate doesn't exactly have the same pool of talent behind them as Apple. It's a bizarrely small operation. Jimmy Lee Williams is more of a PR guy than anything else.
   9. Bob Tufts Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:25 AM (#3398286)
I'd vote for Larry Lucchino as the new commissioner - attorney, small and big market owner, involved in successful stadium construction, willing to accept new baseball thinking by hiring Bill James....
   10. AndrewJ Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:35 AM (#3398291)
I'd vote for Larry Lucchino as the new commissioner - attorney, small and big market owner, involved in successful stadium construction, willing to accept new baseball thinking by hiring Bill James....

Heck, I'd rather have Bill James himself for a commissioner.

Seriously, MLB has been run since 1985 by four men (Ueberroth, Giamatti, Vincent and Selig) all born within a few years of each other. The owners might need to do in '12 what the NFL did when this man died in 1959 -- look to someone 30 years younger as a successor.
   11. BringBackTimTeufel Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:37 AM (#3398292)
Jimmy Lee Williams is more of a PR guy than anything else.


Jimmie Lee Solomon, perhaps? Or am I missing the ex-Red Sox manager's latest career path?
   12. Tripon Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:39 AM (#3398294)
I'm sure Gary Bettman will listen if MLB gave him a call.
   13. Lassus Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:40 AM (#3398295)
Yes, I'm an idiot, and infected with baseball names from elsewhere. Jimmy Lee Solomon.
   14. The District Attorney Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:45 AM (#3398296)
Selig, who is 75, told the group of owners he will step aside in 2012
... in other words, when the world ends.
   15. pthomas Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:48 AM (#3398299)
told the group of owners he will step aside in 2012


How are we going to tell?
   16. A triple short of the cycle Posted: November 29, 2009 at 02:09 AM (#3398308)
George Bush is available.
   17. TerpNats Posted: November 29, 2009 at 02:20 AM (#3398311)
Lucchino is so full of it he would make me yearn for Selig. And that's saying something.
   18. Shalimar Posted: November 29, 2009 at 02:28 AM (#3398316)
Perfect job for George W. Bush. He has few actual responsibilities or duties except making rich people richer (the only thing he succeeded at in his rather dismal presidency). I doubt there is anything else on earth more suited to his minimal skillset.
   19. AndrewJ Posted: November 29, 2009 at 02:44 AM (#3398325)
(Bush as commissioner) has few actual responsibilities or duties except making rich people richer (the only thing he succeeded at in his rather dismal presidency).

And, IMNSHO, he wasn't even particularly good at that...
   20. ugen64 Posted: November 29, 2009 at 02:48 AM (#3398331)
Baltimore reporters are speculating that Andy MacPhail would be among the top candidates.
   21. Shalimar Posted: November 29, 2009 at 03:25 AM (#3398360)
And, IMNSHO, he wasn't even particularly good at that...


Sure, he f*cked up the economy twice and made everyone poorer in relation to where they were 9 years ago, but the ultra-rich are even richer in relation to everyone who isn't in the top 1% and that is all they care about. In every contest there have to be winners.
   22. Gamingboy Posted: November 29, 2009 at 03:35 AM (#3398365)
I'd imagine (assuming that a Owner isn't elevated again- and if it does happen again, it better be one of the good ones, like Arte Moreno) that Robert Bowman, the head of MLBAM (AKA the Website and all that goes with it) will be mentioned. Watch out for Alderson, Kim Ng, Bob Dupuy and the potential dark horse of Harvey Schiller (last seen heading the International Baseball Federation, formerly involved with TBS, the SEC and the YankeeNets corporation that is now Yankee Global Enterprises).

Bob Costas will no doubt nominate himself, as will Scott Boras.
George Dubya, George Will, Keith Olbermann, Stephen King, Kevin Costner, Cal Ripken, Billy Crystal, Bill Spaceman Lee, and Alyssa Milano will all be jokingly be put forward in the press as potential commishes. Mark Cuban will get involved in some form, simply because he's Mark Cuban.


But of course, there is one man who, if made commisioner, would have Baseball be the most popular sports in America by 2025. He is unlikely to be interested and even less likely to get it if he were. I speak of course of the One True Son of the Baseball Marketing God.

Mike Veeck for Commish. Victory or Wreck
   23. Good cripple hitter Posted: November 29, 2009 at 03:58 AM (#3398375)
Watch out for Alderson, Kim Ng...


I only ask because she's been mentioned twice in this thread, but if Ng's positive press hasn't resulted in her getting a GM job, how is she going to win the commissioners clearing house sweepstakes and its $18,000,000 cash prize?
   24. Rich Rifkin Posted: November 29, 2009 at 05:24 AM (#3398422)
It seems to me the owners will pick someone who is deemed to be the answer to the question what are we doing wrong?. I'm not sure that Kim Ng answers any such questions.

If the concensus view is that what they are doing wrong is they are not controlling salary escalation and they need to keep costs in check, they will hire a business executive of some sort who has a track record of restraining costs and being hard on labor. Maybe, for example, someone who is an executive with Wal-Mart.

If the concensus view is that what they are doing wrong is they are not marketing the game properly and not reaching a younger demographic, they will hire someone with that expertise. Maybe, for example, someone who is now with a company like Electronic Arts; or someone who has been successful in TV attracting a more youthful audience.

My own feeling is the most important thing baseball needs to tackle is the pace of the game. That's what they are doing wrong. They need to get batters to stay in the batter's box and pitchers to work more quickly. To resolve that problem, I recommend they hire 9.58 as the new commissioner. He'll help speed things up.
   25. YR Denies Jesus Montero Posted: November 29, 2009 at 06:29 AM (#3398436)
If the concensus view is that what they are doing wrong is they are not controlling salary escalation and they need to keep costs in check, they will hire a business executive of some sort who has a track record of restraining costs and being hard on labor. Maybe, for example, someone who is an executive with Wal-Mart.


Why NOT David Glass? Who better to continue Bud's legacy than one of its most grateful recipients?
   26. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: November 29, 2009 at 06:47 AM (#3398441)
Rickey

obviously
   27. Jeff K. Posted: November 29, 2009 at 06:47 AM (#3398442)
Since I possess a stomach and would therefore be sickened by investigating this matter personally, would anyone like to tell me some of the creatures in ownership even more determined to poison professional baseball than B.S.?

In no particular order, you've got Reinsdorf, Hicks, Loria. Angelos. Rogers, were it a person, would be a lower tier of candidate on this criterion. And I know he's dead now, but the official team website still has his name listed as the current owner, and the list of all-time owners says "-present": Pohlad.
   28. Lassus Posted: November 29, 2009 at 06:51 AM (#3398443)
I think I kind of like the idea of Moreno, maybe, but I'm unsure of his relative evilness.
   29. Andere Richtingen Posted: November 29, 2009 at 07:09 AM (#3398447)
I've always thought GW Bush was well suited to be commissioner of MLB. He would be great at being "head crony" and would happily do the bidding of the owners. He would probably not be compelled to implement a lot of harebrained ideas to change the game. And he might actually be able to create a sensible consensus when the owners go nuts over labor issues or whatever. The only reason i would be against it is that it would mean having to look at GW Bush with some regularity again.

But there's no way he's going to be named to the position, because of his political background and unpopularity. And the only way his unpopularity is going to change before 2012 is if he dies, and that would rule him out for the position.

Actually, now that I think about it...a dead man would be even more perfect for the job.
   30. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: November 29, 2009 at 07:53 AM (#3398458)
Pete Rose.

And The Circle of Life becomes one.
   31. zenbitz Posted: November 29, 2009 at 08:42 AM (#3398462)
2012, huh. Is that what the movie is about?
   32. Bhaakon Posted: November 29, 2009 at 10:22 AM (#3398469)
although, to throw out an analogy, people thought apple would die when steve jobs took a leave of absence, but they had a lot more talent behind him than anyone realized.


To throw out a similar analogy, alot of people though Scientology would fall apart when L. Ron Hubbard died, but it turns out that profitable cults have staying power.
   33. Swedish Chef Posted: November 29, 2009 at 11:21 AM (#3398472)
Funny thing is that it seems like the opposite to me, the products Apple has released after Steve Jobs took leave and which were developed during his absence are totally underwhelming, just little tweaks (A camera on the Nano? Faster processor and larger screens in the iMac? whoa!).

Seems like they need him to take any risks. Of course, maybe things would be different if he left permanently.
   34. Voros McCracken, Human Shield Posted: November 29, 2009 at 12:19 PM (#3398474)
Jeff Loria
   35. Autobahn Posted: November 29, 2009 at 12:24 PM (#3398475)
Funny thing is that it seems like the opposite to me, the products Apple has released after Steve Jobs took leave and which were developed during his absence are totally underwhelming, just little tweaks (A camera on the Nano? Faster processor and larger screens in the iMac? whoa!).

Seems like they need him to take any risks. Of course, maybe things would be different if he left permanently.


Yeah with Jobs only gone temporarily the company might take a more caretaking-type of position (refining, upgrading, tweaking products not ####### stuff up etc,) rather than embracing a new radical direction that would happen if Jobs quit permanently.

I would very surprised if bud by the time he leaves, hasn't already groomed a successor, a man who prided himself on owner unity is not going to leave a potentially dangerous power vacuum.

My wild guess is that it's going to be an MLB Company man.
   36. Swedish Chef Posted: November 29, 2009 at 12:25 PM (#3398476)
Jeff Loria

Wouldn't there be practical problems with a comissioner that turns to stone in sunlight?
   37. Flynn Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:06 PM (#3398480)
Actually, now that I think about it...a dead man would be even more perfect for the job.

We've already had Spike Eckert.

One legitimately interesting thing about Commissioner George W. Bush is that Bush was one of Fay Vincent's biggest supporters and would conceivably be interested in ruling independently. And an ex-Republican president, even if it's W, would have the gravitas to tell the owners to go shove it.
   38. SteveF Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:25 PM (#3398483)
Employees that tell their employers to go shove it don't stay employed for very long.
   39. Gamingboy Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:33 PM (#3398485)
Maybe we can stage a coup and rule Baseball. Commissioner Primates.
   40. Swedish Chef Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:41 PM (#3398486)
Employees that tell their employers to go shove it don't stay employed for very long.

One of the first job survival skills to master is how to tell your employer to go shove it in a polite and deferential way.
   41. RMc is the loyal supporter of the MLB event Posted: November 29, 2009 at 01:57 PM (#3398490)
Maybe we can stage a coup and rule Baseball.

Oh, all right! I'll do it.
   42. Alex Vila Posted: November 29, 2009 at 03:35 PM (#3398522)
Maybe we can stage a coup and rule Baseball.

Do we get to wear epaulets?
   43. heyyoo Posted: November 29, 2009 at 04:01 PM (#3398530)
Derrick Hall
   44. TVerik Posted: November 29, 2009 at 04:05 PM (#3398531)
I suspect that W doesn't relish the though of a single boss, let alone 30 equally meddling and obnoxious bosses with their own sets of interests.
   45. Bob Meta-Meusel Posted: November 29, 2009 at 04:05 PM (#3398532)
Jeff Loria

Wouldn't there be practical problems with a comissioner that turns to stone in sunlight?


Sure, but if Seligula hand picks his successor, I wouldn't be shocked if he did pick Loria. I mean, is there anyone who's been further in Selig's pocket or who's gotten more favors from him?
   46. McCoy Posted: November 29, 2009 at 04:15 PM (#3398536)
Employees that tell their employers to go shove it don't stay employed for very long.

Except in baseball where players and comissioners are free to tell their employers to shove it.
   47. McCoy Posted: November 29, 2009 at 04:18 PM (#3398537)
with him gone, there's nothing to keep them aligned in lockstep behind him.

Selig was a consensus builder not a dictator. Selig never moved unless he got everybody behind the idea.
   48. winnipegwhip Posted: November 29, 2009 at 04:23 PM (#3398538)
Donald Fehr. That is only if Marvin Miller is no longer with us.
   49. Shalimar Posted: November 29, 2009 at 04:26 PM (#3398540)
To throw out a similar analogy, alot of people though Scientology would fall apart when L. Ron Hubbard died, but it turns out that profitable cults have staying power.


Well, Scientology is basically a hierarchical organization and the biggest sociopath eventually rose to the top to fill the void despite his relative youth. Plus, for a dead man Hubbard has maintained a phenomenal writing output in the last 23 years so that undoubtedly plays a part in the continuity.

Baseball isn't really hierarchical despite the presence of a commissioner. It's more like 30 huge egos who rarely agree on anything, with a figurehead around to project unity that isn't really there. For all his vaunted interpersonal abilities, I doubt even Selig could have gotten so much support if the owners had done better in negotiations with Miller and Fehr over the preceding decades.
   50. Lassus Posted: November 29, 2009 at 04:47 PM (#3398561)
Jeff Loria

The only good thing about this is that it would cause Brattain to rise from the dead in sheer rage. But as a killer zombie, he probably wouldn't be as funny.
   51. Greg Goosen at 30 Posted: November 29, 2009 at 07:37 PM (#3398678)
Can we get Wendy Selig to succeed her papa?
   52. Rich Rifkin Posted: November 29, 2009 at 08:45 PM (#3398706)
And an ex-Republican president, even if it's W, would have the gravitas to tell the owners to go shove it.
He apparently didn't have the gravitas to tell his Dick to shove it.
   53. Jeff K. Posted: November 29, 2009 at 08:51 PM (#3398710)
The only good thing about this is that it would cause Brattain to rise from the dead in sheer rage. But as a killer zombie, he probably wouldn't be as funny.

He'd have a lot of fun at press conferences with jokes about brains (and the lack thereof), though.
   54. Jeff K. Posted: November 29, 2009 at 08:54 PM (#3398711)
Can we get Wendy Selig to succeed her papa?

Asking a Selig family member to succeed?
   55. A triple short of the cycle Posted: November 29, 2009 at 08:55 PM (#3398712)
George Will?
   56. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 29, 2009 at 09:20 PM (#3398716)
I have no doubt that George Will thinks he would make an excellent commissioner. But near as I can tell, he doesn't possess a single skill that the owners would be looking for. He has no experience in marketing, or in consensus-building, or in running a business of any kind.

He's friendly with some of the owners, which I guess is worth something. He's much less qualified than Kim Ng would be, and I consider her nomination here to be something of an inside joke.
   57. Jeff K. Posted: November 29, 2009 at 09:59 PM (#3398728)
Why pay for George Will's name when you get John Clayton?
   58. Rich Rifkin Posted: November 29, 2009 at 11:56 PM (#3398775)
Doris Kearns Goodwin, Red Sox season ticket holder, upon reading that George Will has decided he will not be a candidate for the job of commissioner himself, has also decided she is not right for that job.

Mr. Will wrote, "Genius, said de Gaulle, recalling Bismarck's decision to halt German forces short of Paris in 1870, sometimes consists of knowing when to stop. Genius is not required to recognize that in my replacing Bud Selig, when means now, before more the game's valor, such as it is, is squandered."

Doris Kearns Goodwin, oddly enough, issed a very similar statement: "Being very smart, said a 20th C. French leader, recalling a decision by a 19th C. German chancellor to halt his military's forces outside of Paris in 1870, much of the time includes the knowledge of when to quit. A Harvard professor's brain is not needed to comprehend that in my taking over for Bud Selig, when signifies the present time, before all of baseball's glory, such as it may be, is dissipated."
   59. Jeff K. Posted: November 29, 2009 at 11:59 PM (#3398778)
That is a long way to go for a DKG plagiarism joke. Kudos on the effort.
   60. YR Denies Jesus Montero Posted: November 30, 2009 at 12:16 AM (#3398782)
Yeah, George Will paid good money for that quote and deserves the transference of gravitas that comes with the invoice.
   61. Hugh Jorgan Posted: November 30, 2009 at 05:13 AM (#3398888)
"lefty" Obama could be looking for work by the end of 2012...he might fit the bill?
   62. Rich Rifkin Posted: November 30, 2009 at 06:18 AM (#3398895)
No, the commish cannot wear mom jeans and a White Sox jacket. Get real.

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