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Sunday, April 13, 2014

Right-hander Joe Blanton retires

Never quite Cy Blanton…

Veteran right-hander Joe Blanton has retired, according to Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register. Because he was released before retiring, the Angels still owe him the $7.5 million left on his contract.

Blanton, 33, signed a minor league deal with the Athletics after being released by the Halos. He made two starts for their Triple-A affiliate, allowing seven runs in 10 2/3 innings.

In 20 starts and eight relief appearances for the Angels last year, Blanton went 2-14 with a 6.04 ERA (62 ERA+) in 132 2/3 innings. He retired with an 85-89 record and a 4.51 ERA (92 ERA+).

Repoz Posted: April 13, 2014 at 11:11 PM | 37 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Padraic Posted: April 13, 2014 at 11:18 PM (#4685726)
Thanks for '08 Joe!
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 13, 2014 at 11:32 PM (#4685728)
MLBTR:

9:57pm: Fletcher now clarifies that Blanton has left the Athletics' Triple-A team, but it's unclear whether he's actually retiring.
   3. boteman Posted: April 13, 2014 at 11:41 PM (#4685730)
Well, this is awkward.
   4. RickG Posted: April 13, 2014 at 11:47 PM (#4685731)
That is one fatty payout.

(Any old RLPAers still around? You'll get the joke.)
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 13, 2014 at 11:50 PM (#4685732)
This is actually just an elaborate prank on Jeff Francoeur.
   6. starksy Posted: April 14, 2014 at 12:26 AM (#4685740)
That is one fatty payout.

(Any old RLPAers still around? You'll get the joke.)


Well done, Rick!

   7. Red Menace Posted: April 14, 2014 at 01:32 AM (#4685748)
I'll always remember the Cincinnati blowhard who called for trading Homer Bailey and Joey Votto for Joe Blanton in 2008.
   8. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 14, 2014 at 04:21 AM (#4685762)
Pretty much the only time Blanton's successfully retired someone in months. Vaya con Dios.

It still takes my breath away that Kyle Lohse could be sitting around doing nothing for months, and the Angels felt the need to snap up Blanton. If we assume $6 million per WAR, the difference between Lohse and Blanton last year was over $30 million in wins. Not as stupid as the Wells trade, not as stupid as the Steve Finley signing, not as stupid as the Gary Matthews Jr. signing, but it was pretty ####### stupid.
   9. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: April 14, 2014 at 08:31 AM (#4685779)
I attended his Greg Maddux tribute in 2012--an 88 pitch shutout, game time of 2:02.
   10. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 14, 2014 at 08:52 AM (#4685783)
Good luck, Joe, and may all your cupcakes be chocolate cupcakes.
   11. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 14, 2014 at 08:55 AM (#4685785)
Blanton always struck me as a latter day billy wegman. I got a fastball and I am not afraid to use it type pitcher.

and when he lost a few miles on the fastball KAPOW
   12. zonk Posted: April 14, 2014 at 09:15 AM (#4685792)
Pretty much the only time Blanton's successfully retired someone in months.


Well, my joke has been spoken for already so I've got little to add except that it always makes me a little sad to see portly pitchers hang 'em up...
   13. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: April 14, 2014 at 09:29 AM (#4685800)
Blanton retires as one of only 21 guys in history with 200+ PAs and no extra base hits. He should be proud of his accomplishment.

Barry Zito, Tommy Hansen, Tom Gorzelanny, and Ubaldo Jimenez are all active or active-ish players on the list. Zito needs 23 punchless PAs to pass Jim Deshaies as the all-time leader. Seattle should sign him to DH for a week.
   14. zonk Posted: April 14, 2014 at 09:33 AM (#4685802)
Barry Zito, Tommy Hansen, Tom Gorzelanny, and Ubaldo Jimenez are all active or active-ish players on the list. Zito needs 23 punchless PAs to pass Jim Deshaies as the all-time leader. Seattle should sign him to DH for a week.


Insert half-joking discussion about whether this would be a Mariner upgrade or not here...
   15. I Am Not a Number Posted: April 14, 2014 at 09:34 AM (#4685804)
If Blanton were to retire in the woods and have a tree fall on him with no one there to hear it, would he make a sound?

Snark brought to you by the guy who didn't make $40M in his career.
   16. zempf Posted: April 14, 2014 at 09:42 AM (#4685807)
Blanton retires as one of only 21 guys in history with 200+ PAs and no extra base hits. He should be proud of his accomplishment.


Even better is that the lone XBH of his career was a World Series home run.
   17. philly Posted: April 14, 2014 at 10:06 AM (#4685820)
I thought this would leave Swisher as the only remaining player from the 2002 Moneyball draft, but John Baker is with the Cubs as a backup catcher and Jared Burton is a reliever with the Twins. Papelbon is still active as well, but didn't sign with the A's of course.

Blanton who always pitched below his peripherals finishes with a somewhat non-descript 8.8 bWAR, but a very solid 18.9 fWAR.

If you guy by bWAR Swisher is really the only substantial success with 24.1 bWAR and counting.
   18. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 14, 2014 at 11:17 AM (#4685869)
Maybe Blanton was weak sauce with the bat in the regular season but he could obviously turn it on during the WS:
Game 4 Box Score and Play-By-Play

  Sunday
October 262008 at Citizens Bank Park (Philadelphia Phillies)

                                 
1  2  3    4  5  6    7  8  9     R  H  E
                                 
-  -  -    -  -  -    -  -  -     -  -  -
    
Tampa Bay Rays               0  0  0    1  1  0    0  0  0     2  5  2
    Philadelphia Phillies        1  0  1    3  1  0    0  4  x    10 12  1

    PITCHERS
TBR SonnanstineJackson (5), Wheeler (7), Miller (8)
              
PHI BlantonDurbin (7), Eyre (7), Madson (7), Romero (9)

               
WP Joe Blanton       LP Andy Sonnanstine
             SAVE 
none

   HOME RUNS
TBR CrawfordHinske
              PHI 
- ===> Blanton <===, Howard (2), Werth

  ATTENDANCE
45,903 
   19. jingoist Posted: April 14, 2014 at 12:12 PM (#4685909)


On post #15 Ianan exited with a pithy rejoinder: "Snark brought to you by the guy who didn't make $40M in his career."

Who has?

Certainly nobody reading or posting to BTF has ever approached $40M for their career.

I had a fabulous 46 year career in the IT field, mostly in sales and sales management, and was thrilled to earn somewhere between $6 and $7M.

Kind of puts things into perspective, doesn't it?
   20. dr. scott Posted: April 14, 2014 at 12:57 PM (#4685938)
Blanton was consistently infuriating when he was with the A's, and Joyful when he was on any other team. I was a little scared he might do well in AAA and get a call up... Have a great retirement Country Joe.
   21. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 14, 2014 at 01:42 PM (#4685974)
Goodbye Fat Joe. You were not so good, and one of the dumbest fellows I have ever seen interviewed, but you did know how to eat innings.
   22. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2014 at 04:02 PM (#4686061)
I still remember Philly fans trying to claim that Blanton would be a number two on most teams in baseball.(in 2011) This group of Philly fans was pretty hilarious.
   23. eddieot Posted: April 14, 2014 at 04:04 PM (#4686062)
My single favorite World Series HR ever. The moment he hit it was the moment I knew the Phils would win that series. He lived on to scuttle more than one of my fantasy pitching staffs but I will always love him for '08. I'd buy him a beer.
   24. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 14, 2014 at 04:10 PM (#4686065)
I still remember Philly fans trying to claim that Blanton would be a number two on most teams in baseball.(in 2011)

That sounds an old ballplayer's story; by 2011 there was no love left in the Philly area for Blanton. I need to see some evidence.
   25. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2014 at 04:14 PM (#4686069)
That sounds an old ballplayer's story; by 2011 there was no love left in the Philly area for Blanton. I need to see some evidence.


Wasn't on here, another board I'm on, prior to 2011 they were claiming that they were going to have the best pitching staff in history, because their worst pitcher was better than most teams number two.

They took offense when I said that Blanton was not better than Westbrook.
   26. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 14, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4686070)
I still remember Philly fans trying to claim that Blanton would be a number two on most teams in baseball.(in 2011) This group of Philly fans was pretty hilarious.


Were they the same ones who thought of calling the rotation "Fat Joe and the Terror Squad"? Because that was actually hilarious.

Wasn't on here, another board I'm on, prior to 2011 they were claiming that they were going to have the best pitching staff in history, because their worst pitcher was better than most teams number two.


If you limit "most teams" to "most Phillies teams through history", that could be true. Mark Portugal? Vicente Padilla? Ken Howell? Larry Christenson?
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2014 at 04:39 PM (#4686086)
If you limit "most teams" to "most Phillies teams through history", that could be true. Mark Portugal? Vicente Padilla? Ken Howell? Larry Christenson?


It was a very good pitching staff, 127 team era+, Rotation of Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Oswalt was a top four that any team would be proud of, even tied the Rangers for best era+ that year. And the Braves teams of the 90's only beat that era+ 3 times(4 if you include the 2000s).

   28. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 14, 2014 at 04:45 PM (#4686090)
I still remember Philly fans trying to claim that Blanton would be a number two on most teams in baseball.


I think I always had a overly high opinion of him, and I think I was one of the few defenders of the Blanton trade to Philly. Boy did that trade just suck for Oakland though. Cardenas was supposed to be really good.
   29. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:21 PM (#4686129)
cfb, 2011 was a magical year, irrational exuberance must have taken hold of your site-mates and Joe Blanton must have been reflecting the shine of the "4 Aces".

That shine even pervaded the minors -- the "Baby Aces" -- Jarred Cosart, Brody Colvin and Trevor May. TNSTAPP (sp?) of course rules; Cosart had the great ERA+ and terrible K rate in a partial season last year, so the jury is still out. Colvin is badly stalled in AA; Trevor May, I see, made it to AAA this year at age 24 having kept his K rate at 9 or above but his BB rate at 4 or above. His prospect bloom had faded so badly that he was a throw-in to get Ben Revere.

Heady times they were. And only 3 years ago; it seems like a decade.

   30. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:42 PM (#4686141)
cfb, 2011 was a magical year, irrational exuberance must have taken hold of your site-mates and Joe Blanton must have been reflecting the shine of the "4 Aces".


They got offended because I had suggested that instead of wasting time with Blanton, the Philly's should be using their fifth spot on the youngster Kendrick. Kendrick might have sucked but with that roation, they were probably going to win the division pretty easily and could afford to give him 7 or so starts, who knew Worley was going to have a pretty solid year.
   31. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:44 PM (#4686142)
It was a very good pitching staff, 127 team era+, Rotation of Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Oswalt was a top four that any team would be proud of, even tied the Rangers for best era+ that year. And the Braves teams of the 90's only beat that era+ 3 times(4 if you include the 2000s).

Not that this is strictly on-point, but the 2003 Mariners had five guys (Moyer, Piniero, Meche, Garcia, Franklin) who didn't miss a start. And no other pitcher started a game for that year's team. The punchline: they missed the playoffs.
   32. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: April 14, 2014 at 06:41 PM (#4686163)
I thought this would leave Swisher as the only remaining player from the 2002 Moneyball draft


Boy did Lewis over hype the hell out of that draft class...

Allegedly Depodesta told Lewis after the draft that Brant Colamarino was the best pure hitter in that draft (And allegedly a month later an A's minor league coach had a very different observation to make about Colamarino)
   33. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2014 at 06:56 PM (#4686168)
Boy did Lewis over hype the hell out of that draft class...


I always thought the point of the draft part of the book was just to talk about the process, not the actual players drafted as being great in the future. Although I'm sure they would have taken a victory lap if it panned out.
   34. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: April 14, 2014 at 07:13 PM (#4686177)
I always thought the point of the draft part of the book was just to talk about the process, not the actual players drafted as being great in the future.


the way I read it was he started out talking about the process- and that kind of segued into an absurd over hyping of several of the individual players.

One thing that stuck with me was some of the discussion involving Teahen- about how the A's didn't want to draft "projects" if you didn't already know how to swing they didn't want to draft someone they needed to teach/re-teach something like that- but either Lewis misheard something or was deliberately misled- the 2002 As were not adverse to drafting someone with the intention of re-tooling how that guy swings the bat, case in point was Teahen- they drafted him where they did because they thought they could re-tool his swing to hit for power (But in Lewis mind that was something teams like the Braves did or tried to do, not the what the new era As did).

the As were also obviously doing some non-stat things like "putting a milo" on a prospect due to some perceived character defect- which Lewis at least reported- but it really didn't fit Lewis' thesis on how the As operated- which he seemingly failed to note and rather he tried to shoe-horn it into his thesis on how Moneyball worked.
   35. Walt Davis Posted: April 15, 2014 at 07:15 PM (#4686605)
Yet ...

Swisher is the 4th best #16 pick of all-time (so far)
Blanton is the 6th best #24 pick of all-time (even by bWAR) ... only 9 #24 picks have made it over 1 WAR
Teahen was the 11th best #39

even Jeremy Brown's meager .1 WAR is enough to move him into the top third of #35 picks

All told, those 7 slots have amassed 1438 WAR. Using 42 (what the heck) as the number of drafts that have had a chance to produce, the A's would have been expected to get 34 WAR out of those 7 picks. Those players have produced a smidgen over 35.

By the way, 30th picks have been ridiculously good with 347 WAR. Dominated by Schmidt but also Wells, Reuss, Fryman and the 10th spot is still 9 WAR (Jack Cust believe it or not).

I think it's fair to say this draft group was over-hyped but it's not fair for anybody to think it was a bust or disappointing. You simply don't get many good players this late in the draft and those totals are dominated by the freak HoF/HoVG player drafted that one time. (Note also these totals include guys who didn't sign.) The median value produced in any of these slots is 0 WAR (or didn't make the majors if you prefer).

It's an incredibly skewed distribution and the draft, especially after the 10th pick or so, is really about the hope that you hit the 1 in 10 chance of finding a Swisher and the 1 in 30 chance of finding a real star.

A funny thing about the Moneyball draft is that Hamels was picked right after Swisher and Cain right after Blanton -- two high school pitchers.
   36. cardsfanboy Posted: April 15, 2014 at 08:42 PM (#4686652)
I think it's fair to say this draft group was over-hyped but it's not fair for anybody to think it was a bust or disappointing. You simply don't get many good players this late in the draft and those totals are dominated by the freak HoF/HoVG player drafted that one time. (Note also these totals include guys who didn't sign.) The median value produced in any of these slots is 0 WAR (or didn't make the majors if you prefer).


Just for fun I went and looked at some other teams luck in that draft, mostly looking at the teams that Moneyball would have made fun of(guessing as I can't remember for sure)

Brewers got 23 out of Braun, and another 7 out of Breslow.
Twins got 19 out of Span, 11 out of Jesse Crain, 7 out of Lind, and 4 out of Neshek.
Royals got 37 from Greinke and that was it.

For the most part, no team from the 2002 draft got more than two useful players so far. The A's looked to have done pretty good actually.
   37. Zach Posted: April 16, 2014 at 01:39 AM (#4686729)
Michael Lewis is a natural hype man. He originally thought that Liar's Poker was an expose, but he made banking sound so interesting and easy that people started writing to him for advice on how to get his old job. I think he caught draft day fever when writing Moneyball, where everybody is projectable and upside is king.

It's a weakness in a lot of his writing, actually -- he lacks a critical edge when he's writing about the side he's decided are the good guys.

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