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Wednesday, June 13, 2007

RMN: Lincicome: Baseball stars seem to be extinct

Well…at least we can cross the Colorado Hog-nosed Skunk off the extinction list.

We should know. We should just know who the best players are. And if there is a debate, we should know about whom we are arguing. You could travel from here to Boston, just like the Rockies, and not hear anyone arguing whether Jose Reyes of the Mets is a better shortstop than J.J. Hardy of the Brewers.

Is it that baseball is really that bereft of stars, or is it that the world cares less than it used to?  I mean, if you are going to fill the All-Star team with nobodies, might as well be Rockies.

...Or maybe baseball never will recover, never get back the pervasive influence it once had.

You know this much. Having Chase Utley at second base won’t help.

Repoz Posted: June 13, 2007 at 11:11 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. flournoy Posted: June 13, 2007 at 02:16 PM (#2402511)
I really hate articles where the author ascribes his view to his readers.
   2. Shredder Posted: June 13, 2007 at 05:01 PM (#2402675)
I wouldn't say extinct. Rather, it's just difficult to find a good NES in working condition on which you can play the game.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 13, 2007 at 05:04 PM (#2402679)
I wouldn't say extinct. Rather, it's just difficult to find a good NES in working condition on which you can play the game.

NICE! Go Lovely Ladies!
   4. Paul The Paranoid Android Posted: June 13, 2007 at 05:06 PM (#2402681)
I'm disappointed I missed the chance to make the first Baseball Stars crack. Of course, I didn't have one to make anyway, so I just wanted to say that the awesomest game that ever did awesome. If that somehow made it on to the Wii's Virtual Console, I would be extremely happy.
   5. Cowboy Popup Posted: June 13, 2007 at 05:37 PM (#2402703)
"Rather, it's just difficult to find a good NES in working condition on which you can play the game."

Download the Nesticle emulator.
   6. Shredder Posted: June 13, 2007 at 05:41 PM (#2402705)

Download the Nesticle emulator.
The joke doesn't work if I do that.
   7. Jean Claude Vander Wal (Pokey1228) Posted: June 13, 2007 at 05:43 PM (#2402709)
Ok. I don't ever post, but the following statement from the article has forced me to do so:

"This leaves poor Kazuo Matsui, the best-hitting second baseman in the league... stranded."

This is a guy who's played in about 40% of his teams games and hit .311/.342/.462 -- good, but the "best"? By my count Utley, Johnson, Uggla, Hudson, and Phillips have all hit better this year, while playing in over twice as many games. But what do I know?
   8. Cowboy Popup Posted: June 13, 2007 at 06:02 PM (#2402725)
"This is a guy who's played in about 40% of his teams games and hit .311/.342/.462 -- good, but the "best"?"

Utley is hitting .310, Uggla .270, Johnson .285, Phillips .283, and O-Dawg's at .290. K-Mat is at .311.
   9. WillYoung Posted: June 13, 2007 at 06:02 PM (#2402727)
I remember my Baseball Stars John Orton was a beast while playing catcher. One season, Dave Winfield started out 26-for-26. Another year, I traded Pete Incaviglia to my brother for Mickey Tettleton and Tettleton then got powered up to at 15/15 hitting and led the league in HR's.
   10. Brian Posted: June 13, 2007 at 06:04 PM (#2402728)
He makes a good point: baseball is dying, attendance is down, no TV coverage ... nobody cares about baseball like they used to.
   11. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: June 13, 2007 at 06:12 PM (#2402735)
I wouldn't say extinct. Rather, it's just difficult to find a good NES in working condition on which you can play the game.


Sweet. My best teams had a fully powered up Terminator at 3B, Axl Rose on the mound, Rowdy Burns in the 'pen, Max Flex (named after my Rawlings model) at SS and Kathy Ireland leading off.
   12. Dan Szymborski Posted: June 13, 2007 at 06:20 PM (#2402743)
That's a really bad article. I'm going to play Baseball Stars today.
   13. The District Attorney Posted: June 13, 2007 at 06:26 PM (#2402745)
I do think that baseball happens to be in a stage where there is no Jordan/Gretzky type loved/respected/greatest of all time player, or even a Ripken/Ryan type "symbol of the game" player. Bonds is loathed. A-Rod isn't respected. Pujols is Tim Duncan-like, ridiculously good but not exactly a compelling personality. I guess Jeter is as close as you're gonna get, but a lot of people hate the Yankees. (Might not matter, though; a lot of people hated Jordan and the Bulls.)

All sports go through this stage, though. Eventually, someone will emerge. Until then, why worry? As mentioned, the sport seems to be doing fine as it is. I tend to get sick of anyone who monopolizes the conversation about a sport, anyway.

In any event, it's certainly not Chase Utley's fault. Why pick on Chase Utley?

Also, it's Alex Rodriguez. Not "Rodriquez." I know you don't hear much about him anymore, so I guess it's understandable.
   14. Dan Evensen Posted: June 13, 2007 at 10:47 PM (#2402956)
NESticle is outdated. Use FCE Ultra.
   15. Jeff K. Posted: June 13, 2007 at 11:45 PM (#2403051)
Outdated? There are advances in NES Simulation Technology?

Yeah, with this new one, you have to blow in your computer before you can play a game.
   16. Xander Posted: June 14, 2007 at 03:05 AM (#2403501)
I do think that baseball happens to be in a stage where there is no Jordan/Gretzky type loved/respected/greatest of all time player, or even a Ripken/Ryan type "symbol of the game" player. Bonds is loathed. A-Rod isn't respected. Pujols is Tim Duncan-like, ridiculously good but not exactly a compelling personality. I guess Jeter is as close as you're gonna get, but a lot of people hate the Yankees. (Might not matter, though; a lot of people hated Jordan and the Bulls.)
I also think that baseball isn't as star-driven as basketball in general.

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