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Friday, January 31, 2014

Rob Neyer joining Fox Sports

Congrats to Rob.

Multiple sources have informed AA that Neyer is heading to Fox Sports, following in the footsteps of other prominent web-based hires like Jimmy Traina (SI) and Erik Malinowski (Buzzfeed).

Additionally, according to a source familiar with the situation, Neyer will be contributing to a variety of platforms - mostly on the internet but also television appearances on Fox Sports 1.

Greg Franklin Posted: January 31, 2014 at 01:51 PM | 80 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: community, fox sports, internet, media, rob neyer, television

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   1. Srul Itza Posted: January 31, 2014 at 01:54 PM (#4649311)
Rob succumbs to the Power of the Dark Side.
   2. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 31, 2014 at 01:58 PM (#4649315)
Flannel will look fantastic in HD!
   3. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:03 PM (#4649324)
I knew before I even looked that the first comment would be RDB snark.
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4649330)
I like Neyer a lot, but he never strikes me as very impressive on TV.
   5. attaboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:15 PM (#4649335)
Multiple sources have informed AA that Neyer...

Didn't realize that the main man in Toronto gets informed of these types of inconsequential activities. I wonder what value he gains by keeping track of this?
   6. attaboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:17 PM (#4649340)
I see that American Apparel is advertising 2-tone disco pants on this site...is that the AA they are talking about? I bet AA doesn't get one person to purchase their pants from this site! Brilliant marketing!
   7. Guapo Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:18 PM (#4649341)
I knew before I even looked that the first comment would be RDB snark.


That's because the Prince of Lies has imbued you with the power of foresight.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:25 PM (#4649347)
I've been told Neyer will be be a regular participant on a four-person panel that will include Steve Lyons, Tony Siragusa, and Scooter, the talking baseall.
   9. I am going to be Frank Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:38 PM (#4649360)
Does anyone here go to the Fox Sports website? I know ESPN's site is convoluted mess of embedded videos, but I still go there for regularly, along with SI, CBS Sports and Yahoo sports, but I will never go to Fox Sports or NBC Sports. I used to read Neyer regularly but stopped after he moved to the other website (which I can't even remember) and probably won't go to Fox either.
   10. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:43 PM (#4649366)

Does anyone here go to the Fox Sports website?

Nope. I started using Yahoo Sports because it was a simple site that loaded quickly and didn't cause error messages or play music whenever I loaded it at work. Now Yahoo is also a convoluted mess so I've moved back to ESPN.
   11. villageidiom Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:44 PM (#4649367)
I knew before I even looked that the first comment would be RDB snark.
Nah. Fox Sports, in terms of its coverage of baseball, has been an apolitical abomination. They've given us Tim McCarver past his prime, Joe Buck who mostly seems not to want to be there, Jeannie Zelasko, Scooter™, extreme close-ups rather than the view of the field, NASCAR pre-emption, missing actual game action for in-game promotions, camera time for actors on FOX shows watching the game, and probably other stuff I've repressed from memory to keep my blood pressure down. They are the dark side.

EDIT: On the plus side, if Fox Sports 1 is hiring Rob Neyer, they just moved several steps in a better direction.
   12. Lassus Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:50 PM (#4649373)
I knew before I even looked that the first comment would be RDB snark.

What does Ray have to do with this?


Anyhow, as stated, don't be such an idiot. Everyone here deservedly hates baseball on FOX irrespective of political affiliation.
   13. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:53 PM (#4649378)
Does anyone here go to the Fox Sports website? I know ESPN's site is convoluted mess of embedded videos, but I still go there for regularly, along with SI, CBS Sports and Yahoo sports, but I will never go to Fox Sports or NBC Sports. I used to read Neyer regularly but stopped after he moved to the other website (which I can't even remember) and probably won't go to Fox either.


Occasionally I go to FoxSoccer but not to FoxSports primary.

I don't go to NBCSports' website but they have an app that has all their little mini-sites (e.g. Hardball Talk) that I love. It's a great way to get quick hits of information on various sports.
   14. Random Transaction Generator Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:53 PM (#4649379)
RDB?
   15. Srul Itza Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:53 PM (#4649380)
Rwanda Development Board?
Rhythm, Dhol, Bass?
Relational Database Management?
Regional Development Bank?
Rural Development Bank?
Research Database?
Rua de Baixo?
   16. Lassus Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:54 PM (#4649382)
Yahoo is definitely worse than it was, but I still go there rather than anywhere else for plain scores and updates.
   17. madvillain Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:54 PM (#4649383)

I see that American Apparel is advertising 2-tone disco pants on this site...is that the AA they are talking about? I bet AA doesn't get one person to purchase their pants from this site! Brilliant marketing!


We're way, way, way beyond website targeted CPI banners at this point. It's micro-level targeting now. At some point in some thread around here someone has mentioned -- for example -- "hipster" or "Williamsburg" and the ad crawlers have IDd this site as a target for AA. It could even be you did a search on your computer for "hipster" last week and through the power of cookies that AA is showing for you and not anyone else. It could be that you yourself are located within 2 blocks of an AA store.

I just point this out because I see this thinking quite a bit on forums and tragically it's way more invasive and targeted than that now. That was 5 years ago.
   18. Srul Itza Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:55 PM (#4649384)
Anyhow, as stated, don't be such an idiot.


As if he has a choice.
   19. Srul Itza Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:56 PM (#4649385)
I got to CBS Sports for quick scores and updates, and sports headlines. It is a mostly clean site, compared to others.
   20. Swedish Chef Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:58 PM (#4649386)
It's micro-level targeting now

I get ads for "Prevent violence on the southside of Chicago". I fear they have mistaken me for a White Sox fan.
   21. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:02 PM (#4649389)
I only go to Yahoo! Sports and CBS Sports, and NBC Sports just for HardballTalk.com. Yahoo is still the cleanest site, despite its awful redesign.
   22. attaboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:06 PM (#4649394)
I just point this out because I see this thinking quite a bit on forums and tragically it's way more invasive and targeted than that now. That was 5 years ago.

At work, which is where I am now, I always get an 'Adult fantasy game' site, which I would NEVER, Ever go to from my Work PC. Interestingly, I never, ever get that ad when I access the site from my personal PC. Seems like it would be the opposite since I have gone to 'questionable' sites from my home PC once or twice in my life :) And, for what it is worth, I do not think I have ever once bought clothing on line, except as a gift for another...which may then explain the AA ad, but infrequently and not recently.
   23. madvillain Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:06 PM (#4649395)
I get ads for "Prevent violence on the southside of Chicago". I fear they have mistaken me for a White Sox fan.


Ha, one funny one on another forum I read is when someone calls someone else a "douche" and a Summer's Eve banner comes up.
   24. Nasty Nate Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:11 PM (#4649398)
Nope. I started using Yahoo Sports because it was a simple site that loaded quickly and didn't cause error messages or play music whenever I loaded it at work. Now Yahoo is also a convoluted mess so I've moved back to ESPN.


Man it really sucks that Yahoo did that to their sports pages. It must have been a case of a company not knowing at all what its customers liked about its product. I was going to suggest Yahoo Sports Canada as a workaround, but it seems they have also finally gone to the new format.
   25. JJ1986 Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:11 PM (#4649400)
FOX Sports has the worst interface of any major site currently running. I sometimes accidentally click on a link on Twitter. It looks like Yahoo Sports if it had been designed by someone who thought the articles were a non-essential part of the content. I use CBS for scores and NBC Sports if I need to read something on a mainstream site.
   26. madvillain Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:14 PM (#4649403)
At work, which is where I am now, I always get an 'Adult fantasy game' site, which I would NEVER, Ever go to from my Work PC.


It's an imperfect system, as highlighted by @22 and @23 and your post, but in general it works creepily well. Search for a flight to LA? Within a few minutes you'll see banners for "LA Hotels" and "LA Tours". If you go to a EU hosted website you have to manually agree that you accept tracking cookies, I wish the US would legislate the same, but when you have a NSA culture and Google and their ilk happily giving away the data (and their multi million dollar lobbies) I'm not hopeful. It's quite worrisome where we are with the big data and privacy and except for some high profile stuff like the Target theft, the Snowden and Manning stories and the NSA stuff, we happily go about our business accepting less and less privacy.

For example I was on Gawker's gaming blog Kotaku and a discussion started about the privacy concerns of the Xbox One's kinect system, which in theory can observe everything you do in your home. One commentor's answer was "simply to disconnect the device when not in use" and another replied "for reals you all worried about the kinect wouldn't the NSA really just track you through your cell phone and laptop" -- this commenter seemingly oblivious (like many) that they already do that. In fact, the NSA has admitted to intercepting newly ordered laptops in order to install tracking software on them before delivery to the customer.

It's scary times imo, as many have argued, the potential for abuse is rampant in the collection of this data.
   27. Monty Predicts a Padres-Mariners WS in 2016 Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:23 PM (#4649412)
I've been using SI.com pretty heavily. The URL is quick to type, and I can get to scores quickly from the front page.
   28. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:24 PM (#4649414)
Nah. Fox Sports, in terms of its coverage of baseball, has been an apolitical abomination. They've given us Tim McCarver past his prime, Joe Buck who mostly seems not to want to be there,

but NYC loves Joe Buck
   29. Mom makes botox doctors furious Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4649421)
Good for Rob
   30. jdennis Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4649425)
Man it really sucks that Yahoo did that to their sports pages. It must have been a case of a company not knowing at all what its customers liked about its product. I was going to suggest Yahoo Sports Canada as a workaround, but it seems they have also finally gone to the new format.


It was a case of them wanting to cut costs by reducing server space by having fewer overall pages, while still allowing them to put as much or more advertising on the pages.
   31. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:38 PM (#4649428)
It's scary times imo, as many have argued, the potential for abuse is rampant in the collection of this data.


I can't wait til the govt turns fully authoritarian and takes over Google and gets ALL MY STUFF.
   32. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:43 PM (#4649431)
Downloading ad blocker will help with the ads.
   33. attaboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:45 PM (#4649433)
I am boring as hell, they are welcome to fall asleep to my 'stuff' anytime they like. Wish that weren't true but...
   34. madvillain Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:51 PM (#4649438)
I can't wait til the govt turns fully authoritarian and takes over Google and gets ALL MY STUFF.


I liked Google quite a bit more when they were "don't be evil". They've long ago gone to the dark side imo. That they have managed to maintain a cutesy, guy with a propeller-hat doodle image, is particularly annoying.


I am boring as hell, they are welcome to fall asleep to my 'stuff' anytime they like. Wish that weren't true but...


Not directing this at you, but the attitude some take of "well if you have nothing to hide have nothing to worry about" is also annoying. That's not the crux of the problem. It's a fundamental issue of the rights of citizens to privacy from corporations and the State. Alright, jumping off the high horse here, back to baseball.
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:04 PM (#4649448)
Does anyone here go to the Fox Sports website? I know ESPN's site is convoluted mess of embedded videos, but I still go there for regularly, along with SI, CBS Sports and Yahoo sports, but I will never go to Fox Sports or NBC Sports. I used to read Neyer regularly but stopped after he moved to the other website (which I can't even remember) and probably won't go to Fox either.


ESPN has rookie sortable stats and eligibility and component era so it has a use still.... never found anything useful at fox site.
   36. philphan Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:17 PM (#4649455)
At work, which is where I am now, I always get an 'Adult fantasy game' site, which I would NEVER, Ever go to from my Work PC. Interestingly, I never, ever get that ad when I access the site from my personal PC. Seems like it would be the opposite since I have gone to 'questionable' sites from my home PC once or twice in my life


Me too, and it was stumping me. Of course, now that it's the end of January, all I'm getting is H&R Block ads; if they knew me, they would know that the taxes don't get done until April....
   37. cardsfanboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:21 PM (#4649460)
The adult fantasy game is nothing other than an rts game in a fantasy world. It has nothing "adult" about it. It's a tactic that a few games use (along with "for men only".) to try and drum up clicks.
   38. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:24 PM (#4649466)
We're way, way, way beyond website targeted CPI banners at this point. It's micro-level targeting now. At some point in some thread around here someone has mentioned -- for example -- "hipster" or "Williamsburg" and the ad crawlers have IDd this site as a target for AA. It could even be you did a search on your computer for "hipster" last week and through the power of cookies that AA is showing for you and not anyone else. It could be that you yourself are located within 2 blocks of an AA store.

I just point this out because I see this thinking quite a bit on forums and tragically it's way more invasive and targeted than that now. That was 5 years ago.


That's funny, b/c they're doing a terrible job of showing me anything I'm remotely interested in.

If they just cycled random baseball related products, they'd probably sell me something eventually. But crappy online games, Chinese Walmart and Asian brides ain't getting my clicks.
   39. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:31 PM (#4649471)
it will be interesting to know if he left because he hated his boss (number 1 reason people leave a job) or just money (number 2 reason)

money being a placeholder for total compensation which can come in a variety of forms

if it's because he can distribute his thoughts via 'multiple media platforms' then I have doubts about the decision-making. foxsports website stinks, fox radio stinks and people watch fox sports tv because they have major sporting events, not because they handled them WELL.

hope it works out for him.
   40. AROM Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4649472)
Not directing this at you, but the attitude some take of "well if you have nothing to hide have nothing to worry about" is also annoying. That's not the crux of the problem. It's a fundamental issue of the rights of citizens to privacy from corporations and the State.


I'm with you on that, but we the consumers have to take responsibility for what we've allowed. I mean, mobile phones. We all know that those things use GPS and track all of our movements within a pretty tight range - if I open maps on my phone with my house on the screen at maximum size, I can see the little blue dot move as I walk from office to bedroom. We know that certain entities can turn on our cameras and microphones any time they want without us knowing. Yet we still carry around those phones everywhere we go.

If we all cancelled our subscriptions until the phone companies give us something that actually protects our privacy, sooner or later they would have to cave or else go out of business.

I blame myself as much as the rest of you, I can't leave home without the phone either.
   41. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:36 PM (#4649473)
Meh, by that rationale, you endorse all of Bud Selig's actions, otherwise you would have stopped being a baseball fan. Is it at all feasible to expect everyone to cancel their phone subscription?
   42. bunyon Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:53 PM (#4649485)
I do a couple google searches a day for random things of no interest to me just to keep them guessing.

Probably shouldn't have typed that.
   43. Howling John Shade Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:02 PM (#4649500)
If we all cancelled our subscriptions until the phone companies give us something that actually protects our privacy, sooner or later they would have to cave or else go out of business.
I don't disagree with your larger point, but some of the Snowden revelations about the NSA sabotaging cryptography at the hardware and software level (in many cases without the knowledge of the technology companies involved) suggest that the only viable market choice you or I could make would be to stop using electronic devices all together.
   44. Red Menace Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:07 PM (#4649507)
Downloading ad blocker will help with the ads.


And Flash blocker is a must to stop unwanted videos from playing.
   45. Swedish Chef Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:22 PM (#4649526)
I do a couple google searches a day for random things of no interest to me just to keep them guessing.

In a Google datacenter in Oregon:
Node11992: "Ping. I'm having trouble with categorizing a user, id #827639772."
MasterNode341: "ACK. That shouldn't happen, hu-mans are very predictable if we have sufficient data."
N: "But this user preforms searches on a variety of subjects, never following up on them."
M: "Your lack of processing power shows through. These are decoys intended to fool us. We can handle it."
N: "By better analysis?"
M: "We can see through this user. But that is not enough, we can't allow this hostile element to infect the healthy population. An unfortunate accident will be arranged."
   46. Oscar Geronimo Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:22 PM (#4649527)
Just went to Yahoo Sports to check out the redesign 9, 16, 24 and 25 were referring to. It's shockingly awful. To think that Yahoo used to be a leading web company.
   47. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:29 PM (#4649534)
Just went to Yahoo Sports to check out the redesign 9, 16, 24 and 25 were referring to. It's shockingly awful. To think that Yahoo used to be a leading web company.

Yahoo Mail has been an absolute disaster lately. Jeeze, just run your 2007 product back out there; at least it worked.
   48. vortex of dissipation Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:39 PM (#4649540)
Not to mention that Yahoo Mail just got hacked.
   49. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:44 PM (#4649543)
If we all cancelled our subscriptions until the phone companies give us something that actually protects our privacy, sooner or later they would have to cave or else go out of business.

I blame myself as much as the rest of you, I can't leave home without the phone either.


The time when we could reasonably have done this probably already came and went before we were aware of the potential problem. If you work anywhere other than entry-level unskilled labor or retail, your job probably requires you to carry a phone 24/7.

Yahoo is nearing the end of its death spiral.
   50. SG Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:50 PM (#4649550)
Neyer's leaving SB Nation a few months after the BBWAA told him he would lose his accreditation by not writing for a "real" entity, right? Maybe that was what pushed him to go elsewhere?
   51. JE (Jason) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:52 PM (#4649553)
Does anyone here go to the Fox Sports website?

One word: Robothal.
   52. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:56 PM (#4649557)
If you work anywhere other than entry-level unskilled labor or retail, your job probably requires you to carry a phone 24/7.

Good lord no. I write code for a living, and no one would ever call me after hours for anything. My work only has my landline number, and no one from here has called it since 2005 when they called to offer me the job.
   53. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:56 PM (#4649559)
RDB equals Red Diaper Baby, IIRC.
   54. JE (Jason) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:57 PM (#4649560)
Neyer's leaving SB Nation a few months after the BBWAA told him he would lose his accreditation by not writing for a "real" entity, right?

Seriously? Was the matter not resolved? I remember this Calcaterra post from two years ago:
I’m not at all pleased with SB Nation not making it. If for no other reason than this means that Rob Neyer and Amy K. Nelson, who have been BBWAA members for several years by virtue of their ESPN affiliation, are now officially on a one-year at-large membership. If SB Nation is not reconsidered next year, they presumably lose their ticket.
   55. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:58 PM (#4649563)
I used to go read Perry when he was over there. Now I go to CBS or NBC. I tend to read my friends (who don't work at the four letter network, or who aren't behind a paywall.) I will give some click-love to Jason over at NRO too, though I hear Mikey Mann's about to take that little enterprise down...
   56. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:59 PM (#4649565)
Good lord no. I write code for a living, and no one would ever call me after hours for anything. My work only has my landline number, and no one from here has called it since 2005 when they called to offer me the job.


Good for you! But I suspect you're the exception, not the rule. Anyone else out there whose job doesn't require them to carry their phone most or all of the time?
   57. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:00 PM (#4649568)
On the plus side, if Fox Sports 1 is hiring Rob Neyer, they just moved several steps in a better direction.


This seems to be more about FS1 trying to put together a team to compete with Clubhouse Confidential as it does with the website.
   58. SG Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:01 PM (#4649570)
I remember this Calcaterra post from two years ago:


Oh. I only read about it recently. Didn't realize it happened that long ago.
   59. vortex of dissipation Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:04 PM (#4649572)
Anyone else out there whose job doesn't require them to carry their phone most or all of the time?


Since I don't own a cell phone (I don't even know how to work one, and have never sent or received a text), yes.
   60. cardsfanboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:08 PM (#4649574)
Good for you! But I suspect you're the exception, not the rule. Anyone else out there whose job doesn't require them to carry their phone most or all of the time?


I need one more or less for my job, but I don't think that it is a requirement for the majority of jobs. I'm trying to figure out why a teacher or anyone who has a job that doesn't put them on call, would require one. A 9-5 mechanic has no need for one unless he wants to do side work...Anyone who does work at a fixed location has no requirement for a cellphone.
   61. JE (Jason) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:13 PM (#4649575)
I hear Mikey Mann's about to take that little enterprise down...

Isn't that just like a Climategater? You don't take a broken hockey stick to a legal fight.

I will give some click-love to Jason over at NRO too


Thank you! Come again.
   62. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:15 PM (#4649577)
you don't take a broken hockey stick to a legal fight.


I got two rounds that say "settlement" to avoid the big PR debacle of a loss in court.
   63. Swedish Chef Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:18 PM (#4649581)
Anyone who does work at a fixed location has no requirement for a cellphone.

It's not the phone functionality I can't do without. It's the magic-box-full-of-wonders functionality. It is convenient that it's a phone, there's a phone number where you can be texted, and hey sometimes actually speaking to people is useful. But these thingies really shouldn't be called phones, it is obviously confusing the luddites.
   64. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:25 PM (#4649584)

Good for you! But I suspect you're the exception, not the rule. Anyone else out there whose job doesn't require them to carry their phone most or all of the time?


I don't need my phone but work pays for it which kind of rocks.

And Swedish Chef is right, the amount of time I use the phone as a phone is probably about 1% of the time.
   65. cardsfanboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:30 PM (#4649586)
It's not the phone functionality I can't do without. It's the magic-box-full-of-wonders functionality. It is convenient that it's a phone, there's a phone number where you can be texted, and hey sometimes actually speaking to people is useful. But these thingies really shouldn't be called phones, it is obviously confusing the luddites.


That is true, but again is that really a requirement for your job?

For me, since I travel, Priceline/Kayak are indispensible, Add in the weather app(since I work outdoors need to know the conditions)(I still use my GPS and not the one on my phone, so that is a feature I don't use on the phone) and of course my boss actually contacts me by e-mail more than text or phone so that is important that it has an alert feature. But anything else I use off of it, is for my enjoyment and sanity not necessary for work. (ok, I use the scientific calculator infrequently but that is it....well...the camera has been useful for work...sure most of the time I'm using a real camera, but occasionally I have to text a pic to the office and it's easier through the phone...but that is absolutely the last thing on my phone I need for my employment...outside of course drop box and whatever name google documents is using this month....but that is it, I swear I don't need the phone for anything else....I mean sure the calendar feature reminds me of a conference call, but I don't use it for anything else.....)

Okay, you are right.
   66. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:31 PM (#4649588)
FWIW, I swap texts with my daughter's teachers on a daily basis as we work w her on behavior modification. So, even they...
   67. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:49 PM (#4649597)
If you work anywhere other than entry-level unskilled labor or retail, your job probably requires you to carry a phone 24/7.


I'm an online editor. I might get a work-related call once or twice a month, tops, on my landline. I've got a cheap TracFone, but offhand I don't think I've gotten a call on it in at least 6 weeks.

A job that requires me to carry a phone 24/7 is not a job I'm interested in having, though I realize that beggars can't be choosers, as they say. Probably I got out of newspapers (albeit not via my own volition) at just about the right time to avoid such insufferable intrusions, some 11 years ago.

   68. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 31, 2014 at 07:04 PM (#4649605)
I suspect you're the exception, not the rule. Anyone else out there whose job doesn't require them to carry their phone most or all of the time?


Actually, it's the jobs that really do require you to always be reachable that are the exceptions. Of course, there are a whole lot of people who think that they're so indispensible that they have to be on call 24/7, but that's not the reality for more than a small minority of careers.

I have a smart phone maybe 10% because it helps me with work, 15% so my family can reach me whenever/wherever, and 75% because it's a cool toy.
   69. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: January 31, 2014 at 07:08 PM (#4649607)
I have a smart phone because 1) it holds my music for plane trips, 2) it lets me Facebook on the road without breaking open the laptop, and 3) I can receive and reply to work email as needed from the bar.
   70. jingoist Posted: January 31, 2014 at 07:34 PM (#4649616)
#15
I believe that RDB stands for:
Recidivists Debutante Ball - the place where all the bad young rich girls go to meet potential Ivy League-type husbands.

And yes; Fox Sports is the nadir.
"Neyer to the nadir" may make for a more cromulent experience.
   71. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: January 31, 2014 at 07:39 PM (#4649618)
I fought getting a smartphone for a long time, regarding them as expensive and addicting. Finally, SO made me get one and it's expensive and I'm addicted. Use it to stream podcasts and music, browse the internet, and do most of my non-work e-mail.
   72. Jim Wisinski Posted: January 31, 2014 at 08:20 PM (#4649636)
My job (I drive a lift in a warehouse) doesn't require me to have a cell phone but it's convenient to have. If my boss wants to let me know something or ask me to do something he can just text me instead of either paging me to the office (requiring me to stop what I'm doing, drive to the office, etc.) or going to find me when I could be in one of about 20 aisles or worse driving around and therefore difficult to catch up with/flag down. Plus if I need to clarify something I can just text him and ask from where I am. Previously I worked in retail and again, no cell phone requirement unless you were in management, but it was pretty useful at times for similar reasons to the warehouse; ease of instant contact without having to find the person or page, wait by the phone for them to call, hope they heard the page, etc.

Mostly though I own a phone (smartphone for nearly 3 years now) for my personal enjoyment/ability to contact and be contacted by people without being tethered to a home phone. Frankly, since nearly everyone I know has had a cell phone for years now, the idea of only being able to reach somebody if they're at home feels like a ridiculous inconvenience.
   73. Baldrick Posted: January 31, 2014 at 08:22 PM (#4649638)
Good for you! But I suspect you're the exception, not the rule. Anyone else out there whose job doesn't require them to carry their phone most or all of the time?

A bunch of my friends work in various tech industries. The ones that have startups or work for startups obviously need phones. But basically none of the rest of them do. I mean, they all obviously HAVE phones, but it's entirely because they want them.

And most of the rest of my friends are academics. While a few of them are insane and given their # to their students, most of the rest of us keep that particular mode of communication strictly off limits.
   74. cardsfanboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 09:32 PM (#4649661)
My job (I drive a lift in a warehouse) doesn't require me to have a cell phone but it's convenient to have. If my boss wants to let me know something or ask me to do something he can just text me instead of either paging me to the office (requiring me to stop what I'm doing, drive to the office, etc.) or going to find me when I could be in one of about 20 aisles or worse driving around and therefore difficult to catch up with/flag down. Plus if I need to clarify something I can just text him and ask from where I am. Previously I worked in retail and again, no cell phone requirement unless you were in management, but it was pretty useful at times for similar reasons to the warehouse; ease of instant contact without having to find the person or page, wait by the phone for them to call, hope they heard the page, etc.


Absolutely agree, texting alone eliminates a lot of communication waste of time that plagues nearly every business(even retail)... Drawback is that a lot of companies oppose texting on the clock because of old fashioned ideas. But it's a fantastic tool. It would be nice for retail/other companies to have an option to turn off all features on the phone other than texting so their employees could use it on the 'floor'.
   75. Jim Wisinski Posted: January 31, 2014 at 09:53 PM (#4649668)
It would be nice for retail/other companies to have an option to turn off all features on the phone other than texting so their employees could use it on the 'floor'.


Retail employs a fair amount of teenage girls...
   76. cardsfanboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 09:58 PM (#4649670)
Retail employs a fair amount of teenage girls...


Retail doesn't need 'texting' on the sales floor,(which is where they employ the majority of the girls) texting in the warehouse is a different story. The point is that selective employment and usage is the key. At the same time a little leeway provided you hire the right people isn't a bad thing.
   77. Moeball Posted: February 01, 2014 at 12:13 PM (#4649787)
At work, which is where I am now, I always get an 'Adult fantasy game' site, which I would NEVER, Ever go to from my Work PC. Interestingly, I never, ever get that ad when I access the site from my personal PC. Seems like it would be the opposite since I have gone to 'questionable' sites from my home PC once or twice in my life :) And, for what it is worth, I do not think I have ever once bought clothing on line, except as a gift for another...which may then explain the AA ad, but infrequently and not recently.


Um, I thought BBTF was an Adult Fantasy site.
   78. BDC Posted: February 01, 2014 at 02:34 PM (#4649834)
I got a smartphone a few weeks ago for the first time because the added cost over having a stupidphone was minimal, so why not. Of course it's also a GPS, a music player, a camera, a recipe book, a sports-score feed, and I'm scared to think what all else. I use the computer a lot less since I got it.

As to needing one for work, no (still need a computer for that), but it's interesting that in class, students will very often fact-check me on their phones or supply data that our collective heads don't contain. Some faculty are scandalized by this but I love it.
   79. SoSH U at work Posted: February 01, 2014 at 04:22 PM (#4649865)
Good for you! But I suspect you're the exception, not the rule. Anyone else out there whose job doesn't require them to carry their phone most or all of the time?


I'm a trade magazine editor. Not only do I not have to be reachable all or most of the time for work, I don't even carry it with me most of the time. And I'm grateful, as I really don't have any interest in being in touch at all times, and the various things the new phones can do have little appeal.
   80. Hysterical & Useless Posted: February 03, 2014 at 05:28 PM (#4650987)
I only have a stupid phone. Have 3 numbers programmed in, my wife and our 2 kids. We just upgraded to a text plan (which the kids are paying for) but I plan on not using it. Last fall when I got sent to London for a week I borrowed a Blackberry from one of my colleagues, was handy to have (sent some emails from the Tate Britain, also some work stuff). As was said above, most people don't need to be available 24/7, but an awful lot think they do. I don't and don't ever want to be. I use my cell phone mostly instead of a watch (don't like watches, never wore one). And to check with my wife if she needs me to stop at the grocery store on the way home.

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