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Monday, September 01, 2014

Robothal: Changed [Manny] Ramirez enjoyed helping Cubs prospects grow

I mean, if Rasheed Wallace can be on a coaching staff…

[Manny] Ramirez, 42, certainly stunned [Cubs president Theo] Epstein, who grew as exasperated as anyone with the player’s fits of immaturity and selfishness during their years together with the Red Sox.

But Epstein believed Ramirez deserved another chance and that he could impart his vast knowledge of hitting to the Cubs’ prospects… By all accounts, Ramirez positively influenced top prospects such as infielder Javier Baez, outfielder Jorge Soler and third baseman Kris Bryant at Triple A Iowa… Ramirez spent less than three months with Iowa… But during that time, he instructed Baez to be more selective, adjusted Soler’s swing path and talked situational hitting with Bryant, all with impressive results…

Ramirez still wants to return to the majors – he intends to play winter ball in his native Dominican Republic this offseason with the goal of taking one more shot. But once he saw the talent at Iowa, he essentially told the Cubs, “Don’t worry. Play the kids. I’m good.” ...

about a month into Ramirez’s stint in Iowa… Ramirez, speaking on the phone to Epstein, broke down every player on the Iowa roster, giving detailed, sophisticated assessments of not only their skills but also their personalities.

Epstein found the conversation so impressive and surprising that he left his office immediately after getting off the phone with Ramirez and walked down the hall to visit with other Cubs executives.

He had to repeat the conversation verbatim to his colleagues to make sure that it had really happened.

The District Attorney Posted: September 01, 2014 at 03:24 PM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: cubs, iowa cubs, javier baez, jorge soler, kris bryant, manny being someone other than manny, manny ramirez, minor leagues

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   1. Walt Davis Posted: September 01, 2014 at 06:17 PM (#4783301)
He had to repeat the conversation verbatim to his colleagues to make sure that it had really happened.

It's like the Book of Mormon!
   2. Sleepy's still holding up that little wild bouquet Posted: September 01, 2014 at 07:03 PM (#4783327)
The Book of Manny. Like the Book of Mormon, but delivered with dreadlocks and some quirky mannerisms.

Also, we'll know who to blame if Soler misses around 50 days next season for maternity leave.
   3. cardsfanboy Posted: September 01, 2014 at 07:20 PM (#4783335)
Wasn't the common thought on Manny, was that he was a fairly intelligent guy who had a lot of idiosyncrasies? (Some of which was caused by translation issues) That if he was a pitcher, he would be thought of as a "typical lefty"(even though he throws right).


   4. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: September 01, 2014 at 08:09 PM (#4783350)
Ramirez spent less than three months with Iowa… But during that time, he instructed Baez to be more selective, adjusted Soler’s swing path and talked situational hitting with Bryant, all with impressive results

So ... was Baez swinging at pick off attempts or something?
   5. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: September 01, 2014 at 08:16 PM (#4783353)
(Some of which was caused by translation issues)


He didn't have translation issues, other than the usual Manlish to English ones.

He's an odd (though most often delightfully so) duck, but was most definitely an advanced student of the fine art of putting wood to horsehide.



   6. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 01, 2014 at 09:07 PM (#4783376)
Man-Ram debuted in MLB earlier than all current players, and that includes A-Rod. Great story. Like the new Rickey Henderson.

Was he doing this mostly-coaching thing last year when he was on the Rangers AAA team, too?
   7. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 01, 2014 at 09:27 PM (#4783386)
Wasn't the common thought on Manny, was that he was a fairly intelligent guy who had a lot of idiosyncrasies


Dude is nearly Pedro smart about hitting. I know both he and Pedro are quirky, but seriously if you have any power within your MLB organisation, you need to find a place for these guys in it; if only to discuss the science/craft/essentials they can impart.
   8. Cargo Cultist Posted: September 01, 2014 at 10:04 PM (#4783411)
Epstein: "Guys, I just had an intelligent conversation…with Manny effing Ramirez!"

Office Guys: "No effing way!"
   9. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 01, 2014 at 11:19 PM (#4783435)
(Some of which was caused by translation issues)


Manny started learning English when he was 13 and his family moved to New York. He speaks English just fine, although with an accent. It's not hard to understand him.
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 01, 2014 at 11:24 PM (#4783438)
Next Cubs Manager: Manny Ramirez.
   11. Cargo Cultist Posted: September 02, 2014 at 12:43 AM (#4783455)
Next Cubs Manager: Manny Ramirez.


Well, he wouldn't be as bad as Dusty Baker was.

At least Manny knows that a walk is a good outcome.
   12. Cargo Cultist Posted: September 02, 2014 at 12:48 AM (#4783456)
So ... was Baez swinging at pick off attempts or something?


He seems to do that now...you can only wonder at how really, really bad he must have been at that before Manny started to help him.

At least his power seems to be real.
   13. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 02, 2014 at 01:27 AM (#4783462)
Unfortunately Manny's hurt for the rest of the season. I'd have loved to see him come up in September and get an at bat to push his HoF start date back.
   14. Fancy Pants with a clinging marmoset on his Handle Posted: September 02, 2014 at 06:41 AM (#4783479)
That headline is absolutely begging to be taken literally.

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