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Monday, June 11, 2012

Rockies Mailbag: Troy Tulowitzki a welcome return to struggling Colorado

“The U.S. Postal Service has included 63 of Colorado’s 390 post offices on a list for possible closure.” Make it 64.

When will the Blake Street Bozos realize they are better off without Troy Tulowitzki in the lineup? With the ego removed, the rest of the team seems to perform better.
—Lars, Durango

Lars, I understand your anger and the need for Rockies fans to vent. The season is heading toward disaster with no salvation in sight.

But believing the team is better off without Troy Tulowitzki is ridiculous, and not just because they have gone 4-6 with him on the disabled list after his strained groin.

Tulo remains one of the best defensive players in the game, regardless of position. He’s the rare shortstop who hits for average and power.

Yet there are fans out there, like yourself, who don’t like Tulowitzki and his “ego.” I just don’t get it. What you call ego, I call passion.

...Yes, Tulo is having an off year (.287 average, eight homers, 27 RBIs, eight errors), but he’s still one of the best players in baseball. Indeed Tulo ranks No. 8 on ESPN’s list of the top-100 players in baseball.

Repoz Posted: June 11, 2012 at 11:01 PM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: June 12, 2012 at 12:42 AM (#4154397)
Do you know who was once traded for an over-priced ARod? Would you believe me if I told you that player was once again available?

Trading away ARod's contract and ego was the best thing the Rangers ever did and I strongly recommend the Rox do the same.
   2. McCoy Posted: June 12, 2012 at 12:56 AM (#4154399)
I don't know if the Rockies would trade Tulo for Joaquin Arias. Now then they might just do it for Alfonso Soriano who was also part of that trade and still playing as well.
   3. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:09 AM (#4154402)
It's always fun when fans of crappy teams blame the best player for the team's failures. As an A's fan I'm proud to say that our fans blame our crappy players for our team's crappiness.
   4. McCoy Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:20 AM (#4154404)
That's because they are your best players!
   5. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:58 AM (#4154415)
Hee
   6. baudib Posted: June 12, 2012 at 02:12 AM (#4154419)
Man, I don't even like the Cubs, I once considered Soriano to be one of my favorite players (he anchored my roto team for 3 years), but this BTF Soriano meme is starting to get to me.

I can't see why the Red Sox and Yankees aren't in a huge bidding war for that guy.
   7. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: June 12, 2012 at 02:19 AM (#4154420)
Man, I don't even like the Cubs, I once considered Soriano to be one of my favorite players (he anchored my roto team for 3 years), but this BTF Soriano meme is starting to get to me.

Never liked him myself, and totally disagree. I think it's hilarious.

Plus, it's one of the few joys Walt and McCoy and zonk can still get out of this season... who are you to begrudge them that?
   8. baudib Posted: June 12, 2012 at 02:38 AM (#4154424)
I guess I wasn't very clear. I also think it's hilarious. I would like nothing better than for the Red Sox or Yankees to give up an actual tangible baseball asset for him.

   9. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 12, 2012 at 02:46 AM (#4154425)
I once considered Soriano to be one of my favorite players (he anchored my roto team for 3 years) . . .

He was pretty good in his one year in DC, playing in a park (RFK) that was pretty tough on hitters. And to be fair, injuries apparently played some role in his performance decline. However, he now seems likely to set the record for longest single-player BBTF meme - no small achievement!
   10. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: June 12, 2012 at 02:57 AM (#4154427)
However, he now seems likely to set the record for longest single-player BBTF meme - no small achievement!
Just wait until the Derek Jeter 5000 "hit" gift baskets start showing up on ebay.
   11. PreservedFish Posted: June 12, 2012 at 03:21 AM (#4154429)
However, he now seems likely to set the record for longest single-player BBTF meme - no small achievement!


I wonder how Frank Tanana would feel about this. And Mike Crudale.
   12. baudib Posted: June 12, 2012 at 03:54 AM (#4154435)
Chris Truby? Mike Piazza?????
   13. Dan The Mediocre Posted: June 12, 2012 at 09:18 AM (#4154485)
I'm tired of people like McCoy and Albert Belle always trying to bring up a possible Soriano trade.
   14. Greg Schuler Posted: June 12, 2012 at 09:55 AM (#4154513)
However, he now seems likely to set the record for longest single-player BBTF meme - no small achievement!


That's a trap!
   15. zonk Posted: June 12, 2012 at 11:09 AM (#4154582)
Plus, it's one of the few joys Walt and McCoy and zonk can still get out of this season... who are you to begrudge them that?


What, you think watching Carlos Marmol isn't fun? Wait... Yeah, STOP BEGRUDGING ME!

   16. RMc and His Roster of Rubbish Posted: June 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM (#4154673)
Behold!
   17. The District Attorney Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:23 PM (#4154736)
Do you know who was once traded for an over-priced ARod? Would you believe me if I told you that player was once again available?
I assume you wouldn't trade him back for A-Rod though, right?
   18. Baldrick Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:32 PM (#4154755)
Can someone explain the meme? Right now, I just find it annoying. But maybe I could be persuaded that it's funny.

It strikes me as far more similar to 'never saw X play' (which has never been funny ever) than it is to Chris Truby and Albert Belle (which is always funny).
   19. PreservedFish Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:39 PM (#4154757)
I don't know if Truby/Belle counts as a BTF meme. (Actually, it's two memes, isn't it?)
   20. SoSH U at work Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:42 PM (#4154763)
Can someone explain the meme?


McCoy (and other Cubs fans, but it started with him) wants to see Soriano unloaded. Thus, virtually every thread dealing with another team who may need help/another player who might go elsewhere, he brings up the fact that Soriano is unavaialble. That's about it.

How knee-slappingly funny it is is obviously a matter of taste, but I side more with annoying than rip roaring. Then again, I'm rabidly anti-meme.


I don't know if Truby/Belle counts as a BTF meme. (Actually, it's two memes, isn't it?)


No, it's one meme (or one meme built on the back of a lesser one that has been fully subsumed). And it wasn't born here, but it was created by a Primate (Tom Nawrocki).

   21. zonk Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:45 PM (#4154767)

McCoy (and other Cubs fans, but it started with him), wants to see Soriano unloaded. Thus, virtually every thread dealing with another team who may need help/another player who might go elsewhere, he brings up the fact that Soriano is unavaialble. That's about it.

How knee-slappingly funny it is is obviously a matter of taste, but I side more with annoying than rip roaring.


Don't let Marlon Byrd have undue influence in how you view acquiring aging Cubs outfielders... Trust me, you'll like this one.
   22. PreservedFish Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:48 PM (#4154770)
No, it's one meme (or one meme built on the back of a lesser one that has been fully subsumed).


It seems like both Truby and Belle get their own different jokes, based on the one original joke. Truby with his satanism, and Belle with his being associated with anything bad.
   23. McCoy Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4154774)
Thus, virtually every thread dealing with another team who may need help/another player who might go elsewhere, he brings up the fact that Soriano is unavaialble.

Well, if he keeps on hitting like he has over the last 40 games he'll be unavailable but for now I'd classify him as available.

The thing I don't understand is that we keep hearing that the Cubs will almost all of the contract to move him and yet he doesn't get moved. So I wonder constitutes almost all of the contract and like I said in another thread I really don't know why some team wouldn't take a flyer on him for 5 million a year.
   24. SoSH U at work Posted: June 12, 2012 at 01:51 PM (#4154775)

It seems like both Truby and Belle get their own different jokes, based on the one original joke. Truby with his satanism, and Belle with his being associated with anything bad.


I guess I can see that.

Well, if he keeps on hitting like he has over the last 40 games he'll be unavailable but for now I'd classify him as available.


Edit: Ah, typo there. Yes, available.
   25. Nasty Nate Posted: June 12, 2012 at 02:01 PM (#4154784)
So I wonder constitutes almost all of the contract and like I said in another thread I really don't know why some team wouldn't take a flyer on him for 5 million a year.


Because younger guys with similar skillsets are almost always available for either less money or fewer guaranteed years, E.G. Cody Ross 1-yr $3m this past offseason.

And would the other team have to send someone back to the Cubs in addition to guaranteeing $5m per year?
   26. McCoy Posted: June 12, 2012 at 02:11 PM (#4154792)
The Cubs got back Chris Volstad and his wonderful multimillion dollar contract in order to dump Carlos Zambrano. I don't think teams would have to give up much to save the Cubs a handful of dollars.

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