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Monday, August 20, 2012

Roger Clemens is gonna pitch again

The Rocket returns. No, not to the majors, but he will be pitching again:

  Sugar Land Skeeters president Matt O’Brien and Roger Clemens’ agent Randy Hendricks told FOX 26 Sports that Roger Clemens worked out for the Skeeters today and will sign with the team.

  Hendricks and O’Brien told FOX Clemens will start for the Skeeters this Saturday in Sugar Land.

  Skeeters officials said Clemens had a full workout today, was clocked at 87 mph and is in great shape.

Thanks to Los.

Repoz Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:04 PM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: red sox, yankees

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   1. Willie Mayspedester Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:09 PM (#4212647)
Is he playing with his kid or something?
   2. morineko Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:10 PM (#4212648)
I guess Scott Kazmir just wasn't enough to put them over the top.
   3. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:17 PM (#4212659)
#2 is kind of awesome.
   4. dlf Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:28 PM (#4212678)
During cross examination of Brian Cashman in the recent trial, Rusty Hardin asked if the Yankees could use a 49 year old pitcher who could still hit 90mph. Cashman said "maybe."
   5. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:53 PM (#4212721)
When I saw the headline, I just assumed it was referring to this classic "I Wanna Pitch!" video from 2057.
   6. Nasty Nate Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:57 PM (#4212732)
How on earth are there 3 active threads involving the Sugar Land Skeeters at the same time!
   7. dejarouehg Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:59 PM (#4212737)
A buddy of mine lives in Sugarland and bought season tickets. We've gone to ballparks throughout the country over the last 15 years and he was on a streak where he got at least one batting practice ball/foul ball at 10 straight MLB ball parks. He got 8 in one day at Sugarland. Not the same but he says its a great place to see a game.
   8.     Hey Gurl Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:03 PM (#4212742)
If someone could give him an inning in MLB to delay those HOF ballots it might help him out.
   9. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4212754)
How on earth are there 3 active threads involving the Sugar Land Skeeters at the same time!

Skeetermania: you can't stop it, you can only hope to contain it!
   10. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:08 PM (#4212756)
If someone could give him an inning in MLB to delay those HOF ballots it might help him out.

Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that several such innings might actually help some MLB teams out as well?

Sometimes I think guys with Clemens' stuff and general disposition (IE surly) don't get enough credit for being able to pitch as well. At 87 mph, Clemens might just have enough pitching prowess to get some decent hitters out.
   11. Darren Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:40 PM (#4212816)
Clemens went from dominating with 98-MPH heat to dominating with a passable 90-mph fastball (albeit in a lesser league). He knows how to pitch. He could certainly be a decent 4th-5th starter if he's hitting the high 80s.

And if he can put up a couple wins, we'll also get to see Greg Maddux again.
   12. GEB4000 Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:51 PM (#4212834)
This will be good for his Hall of Fame chances. Push back the voting another six years.
   13. marko Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4212852)
This will be good for his Hall of Fame chances. Push back the voting another six years.


Unless he ends up testing positive :)
   14. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:18 PM (#4212886)
And if he can put up a couple wins, we'll also get to see Greg Maddux again.


Then good luck, Roger!
   15. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:29 PM (#4212913)
Clemens will be the 16th -- count 'em -- ex-major-leaguer to play for the Skeeters this year. (The youngest player on the team is 24.)
   16. Howie Menckel Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4212946)

I saw HoJo play last year in a minor league for the Rockland (NY) Boulders of the Can-Am League.
He was only 50, which is surprising. He played with his son, who is about as much of a prospect as a 50-yr-old HoJo is.

The "old man" didn't get a hit in two or three PAs but he didn't embarrass himself, either, as DH.

   17. Bourbon Samurai Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:44 PM (#4212948)
Maybe he plans to bring back the senior league.
   18. Walt Davis Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:12 PM (#4212996)
Just how much does Rusty Hardin charge?
   19. puck Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:45 PM (#4213050)
Gary Majewski has pitched in 44 of the team's 37 games. That's pretty busy.
   20. LargeBill Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:08 PM (#4213083)
19. puck Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:45 PM (#4213050)
Gary Majewski has pitched in 44 of the team's 37 games. That's pretty busy.


I'm not a math major, but I don't think that's possible.
   21. Repoz Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:33 PM (#4213113)
Gary Majewski has pitched in 44 of the team's 37 games. That's pretty busy.

Whew, thought that read Gary Waslewski...then again, he's only 71.
   22. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:41 PM (#4213119)
Gary Majewski has pitched in 44 of the team's 37 games. That's pretty busy.


They have also had pitchers start 107 of those 37 games. Pretty sure those are all-time stats.

Their pitching stats tell you how many doubles and triples they've given up, but not how many home runs.
   23. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 20, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4213137)
I believe this league has a new wrinkle where if you hit a home run, instead of getting credit for a hit you instantly win the game and another one starts with the next hitter. This would explain both of those statistical oddities.
   24. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: August 20, 2012 at 07:11 PM (#4213145)
I'm pretty certain Roger Clemens is still one of the 150 best starting pitchers on the planet.
   25. Tracy Posted: August 20, 2012 at 08:02 PM (#4213207)
I think the team website is showing stats for the second half of the season - BBRef has their full-season stats.
   26. puck Posted: August 20, 2012 at 10:05 PM (#4213296)
I think the team website is showing stats for the second half of the season - BBRef has their full-season stats.

Wow, BB-ref has independent league stats.

I'm impressed that so many independent leagues survive.
   27. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4213363)
It's hit-and-miss with the indy leagues, I think. Here in Lancaster, the Barnstormers* have a pretty nifty and well located little park that's practically a miniature theme park. They market it mostly as a place for families to bring their kids, have dinner and maybe watch a couple innings while the kids play. They seem to be doing OK with it.

*"Lancaster Barnstormers" is an amazing name for a baseball team.
   28. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:03 AM (#4213370)
It would be even better if the team was from a place called Sugar, and they were called the Land Skeeters.
   29. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:09 AM (#4213375)
I'm impressed that so many independent leagues survive.

68-year-old Bill "Spaceman" Lee is starting for the San Rafael Pacifics on Thursday night.
Just, you know, putting that out there.
   30. tjm1 Posted: August 21, 2012 at 05:48 AM (#4213438)
I'm impressed that so many independent leagues survive.


They generally have a few things going for them: lots of promotions, especially involving popular former big leaguers from the nearby team; very low salaries for the players and very low ticket prices; stadiums that they can use for practically nothing; short travel distances.

Let's say a team plays 100 games. That will give them 50 home games. Say they get $10 a ticket, and sell 1500 tickets a game. That gives them a revenue of $750000. Add on another few dollars a game for concessions, and maybe they get a few tens of thousands for advertising in the park and in the programs, and you're looking at a budget of about $1 million a year. Now: players' salaries- I'm guessing they get about $20000 plus some meal money on the road that adds up to another $5000, give or take. That gives a payroll of about $600000. That leaves $400000 to run a bus, pay stadium costs, ticket takers, coaches, etc, and make a profit for the owners, who are generally also the GMs. I'd guess you can clear about $50000 a year for running an independent league team, which is not bad money for six months' work. Most of these teams actually sell more than 1500 tickets a game, too:

Independent league attendance
   31. Greg K Posted: August 21, 2012 at 07:57 AM (#4213470)
I think the team website is showing stats for the second half of the season - BBRef has their full-season stats.

I think it's impressive that Jason Lane might be their best pitcher.

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