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1. alkeiper Posted: April 11, 2012 at 04:15 PM (#4104348)Well Offerman sounds like a Cubs fan.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: deep dish is for tourists. If you want actual local cuisine, you're looking at chicago-style hot dogs, italian beef sandwiches w/ giardinara and polish sausage.
Parks & Rec is still going strong, still my favorite current TV comedy.
I can't see Ron Swanson as a Cubs' fan.
Deep dish I'll give you. But nothing beats crispy thin crust piled high with large chunks of sausage (cooked on the pizza, not pre cooked), and cut into squares. On the southwest side and the burbs, there was a small chain called Fox's Pub which made the best pizza of this type ever.
I see him as an Indians fan. Losing breeds character. Cleveland is more rust belt and blue collar than Wrigleyville.
Not that I don't prefer your list - but I enjoy a good deep dish... not everything tourists like is stupid to like.
While I wouldn't make a case for it as the city's best or anything, I would likewise say that the ubiquitous Chicago's Pizza on the north side has to rank among the best possible food you can get delivered at 3 AM. If you're too drunk to turn on the stove yourself, there's something awfully great about being able to order a stuffed pizza after last call at a 4 AM bar -- and their non-pizza menu is extensive and excellent as well. I don't make it to 4 AM nearly as often as I used to, but outside of maybe Vegas -- I don't think anywhere else in the US is as fortunate as the Chicago's delivery radius.
Are there late night delivery options in Vegas that I'm missing? There are a few 24 hour pizza joints, but they're kind of terrible.
I guess I was thinking more of the idea that a lot of fine restaurants seem to be open rather late in Vegas... but maybe I'm misremembering. I'm perfectly happy to call Chicago's the king, bar none... I certainly swear by it.
Chicago's Pizza gives me horrible, *horrible* heartburn. I last ate there about 3-4 years ago (and it was probably around 4am) and I'm basically afraid to eat there again.
Him: How are you today?
Me: OK, you?
Him: ...I'd be a lot better if the Cubs weren't losing.
Me: Wait, you're an unfortunate Cubs fan, too?
I know Michigan isn't far from Chicago, but it's always strange to come across a fellow sad sack fan. I had to admire his dedication to this shitty, shitty team. After we talked, I noticed his phone was on with the gamecast on it next to the register.
(that actually isn't from one of my favorite episodes, and I thought it was kind of a silly joke at the time, but when you loop it for five minutes straight it starts to grow on you.)
Giordano's deep dish's weakness is definitely its crust. On other ingredients alone, I'd probably rank Giordano's as my favorite of the chain Chicago restaurants.
As it is, I'd probably put Malnati's on the top of my list. Now that's a great crust!
The very best, however, is The Art of Pizza (~3100 N Ashland). No doubt in my mind. They sell by the slice, as well. (EDIT: Not a chain.)
Chicago's is good late-night pizza. Giordano's has very good thin crust pizza, as does a place on the northwest side called Pete's (~3700 N Western).
I must say, Robinson's crack about the north side having inferior pizza is totally unfounded. And I'm a proud Sox fan.
Yes. I don't like Chicago-style mostly because afterward I feel like I ate a bowling ball, but Art of Pizza does it right. Great sauce.
Didn't you live in or around D.C. at some point? Did you ever have Ledo's (square & greasy & wonderful) pizza? It's the only thing I missed about D.C. during my Cleveland years...
Do you mean the stuff like at Lombardi's, I guess it tends to be called "Neapolitan" style? I think I know what you mean by the other stuff (NY State/NJ/Philly), yes, that's good stuff.
But squares. It's gotta be square for the thin.
I grew up on Fox's Miserlou, but when I'm back home, I prefer Palermo's. Art of Pizza is indeed great, and is probably what I'm going to miss most about my friend moving away from his place on Greenview.
There was, maybe still is, a local joint in Bridgview called Fasano's which was better than Fox's even, but I doubt anyone's heard of it. Never had, nor heard of Palermo's
I used to live right by there. Those were the days. BYOB to boot!
EDIT:
I spent many a fine year living on Greenview.
I would also be up for softball, beer, beer, beer, and whatever...
Well, the last time I was at Fox's was probably 1985. It must be newer than that.
Live in DC now actually. Never heard of Ledo's. Looked it up and I can see why. It isn't near a metro. The one in DC is 2 miles from me. The one in Arlington is less than half a mile away from the Rosslyn stop so I might try that one. Google and Yelp reviews only come out to a 3 to 3.5 star place out of 5. Yahoo's front page had an article up about a Food & Wine article listing 20 or so of the best "original" style pizza in country. The only one that appeared for DC was a pizza place called 2 Amys Pizza which is 2.5 miles away from me and again not near a metro.
My two favorite pizza places in DC are Duccini's for a late night or quick slice and Pizza Paradiso for a great wood fired pizza and great beer.
I'm talking about the NY style slice of pizza which is meant to be bought by the slice so it looks large but is rather scant on cheese and sauce so that it can be sold by the slice and not cost a fortune. It took me a long time to buy pizza by the slice because I love my pizza with lots of cheese, toppings, sauce, and crust.
I saw that - but it was all fru-fru pizza... Nothing wrong with some creativity around a 'classic' dish, but when it comes to "best pizza", I'm expecting the standard type of thing done really, really well. What that list seemed to have was "Best restaurants using pizza as a starting point" - which is fine... just don't call it "best pizza".
I was going there for about three years before I even realized it was BYOB. There's a Jewel right across the street, so a great place instantly became greater.
Most of the best NYC pizzerias don't serve by the slice.
Last year was a ton of fun. I'm game.
Visiting family in a smallish burg -- and keep in mind, I had skipped lunch and was also about 5-6 beers into the evening -- we ordered Dominoes. Wasn't my choice, it was their suggestion, and I was a gueset... I have to admit, I found the "Brooklyn style" to be perfectly cromulent. I'm not saying it's a real NY slice or anything, but I was surprised at how exceedingly OK I found it to be. I found it so OK that I would honestly consider ordering it again.
/apostasy
I see I'm not the first to notice.
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