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Wednesday, November 08, 2017

Rowland’s Office: Braves Looking at Retreads for GM

Apparently not very brave thinking in Atlanta.

At a time when the game is skewing young, the Braves remain stuck in the past. The fact that Jim Hendry is a candidate for GM or president of baseball ops or whatever says it all. The other five retreads vying for the job don’t inspire much confidence, either, with one possible exception.

fra paolo Posted: November 08, 2017 at 12:36 PM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Khrushin it bro Posted: November 08, 2017 at 06:59 PM (#5573254)
At first I thought retreads was a different and less politically correct word.
   2. JJ1986 Posted: November 08, 2017 at 07:47 PM (#5573266)
How is Dan Jennings a retread? He was a "GM," but never the top guy in a front office.
   3. PreservedFish Posted: November 08, 2017 at 08:00 PM (#5573274)
Byrnes and Cherington were Moneyball guys at least. Anthopolous did some exciting stuff in Toronto.
   4. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 08, 2017 at 09:18 PM (#5573292)
At a time when the game is skewing young, the Braves remain stuck in the past.

Perhaps the Braves feel they were rather badly burned by their last GM hire, and are looking for someone vetted by experience. Doesn't mean they aren't making a mistake, but they aren't making the same mistake, which may be the current focus.
   5. Cris E Posted: November 09, 2017 at 10:11 AM (#5573396)
The Braves are just getting back to basic management fundamentals here. Not everyone can win a world series using these fancy new age ideas (other than the Cubs, Red Sox, Astros and Royals, anyway). But as a franchise they've done this before and they'll do it again. Here's my prediction: watch for the names Stan Kasten and Bobby Cox to join John Schuerholz as he heads back downstairs to GM the club again. They've shown they can make a 20 game swing from one season to the next and get the Braves to the Series, plus they aren't dead. Clear thinking people, it's time for clear thinking.
   6. wjones Posted: November 09, 2017 at 12:33 PM (#5573538)
The Braves are just getting back to basic management fundamentals here. Not everyone can win a world series using these fancy new age ideas (other than the Cubs, Red Sox, Astros and Royals, anyway). But as a franchise they've done this before and they'll do it again. Here's my prediction: watch for the names Stan Kasten and Bobby Cox to join John Schuerholz as he heads back downstairs to GM the club again. They've shown they can make a 20 game swing from one season to the next and get the Braves to the Series, plus they aren't dead. Clear thinking people, it's time for clear thinking.

Maybe all of that post was tongue-in-cheek, and my sarcasm meter isn't running properly, but 1) Kasten is working for the Nats...I think? 2) not really ready to call the Royals cutting edge, and they WERE trying to get Moore back until the Royals refused them permission.
   7. MNB Posted: November 09, 2017 at 12:53 PM (#5573562)
It seems like Kim Ng's name never comes up anymore when people are talking about potential GM hires.
   8. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: November 09, 2017 at 04:24 PM (#5573737)
Maybe all of that post was tongue-in-cheek, and my sarcasm meter isn't running properly, but 1) Kasten is working for the Nats...I think?


Stan Kasten was part of the ownership group spearheaded by Magic Johnson who bought the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2012. He has been serving as team President for the Dodgers since then. He's not moving back to Atlanta from the Dodgers, to take a demotion to work for a guy he's now a direct line peer of (Schuerholz is team President in ATL.)

Bobby Cox is 76 years old. He is not going back to the day to day rigor of running a team. Schuerholz is 77 and isn't going to return to the meat grinder either. They want Dayton Moore because he's "them but younger," but they have to get rid of Hart and through the Royals' denial of interview for that to happen.
   9. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: November 09, 2017 at 09:02 PM (#5573864)
Jeffrey Loria is tanned, rested, and ready to return to baseball.
   10. Cris E Posted: November 10, 2017 at 11:04 AM (#5574040)
Maybe my sarcasm meter isn't running properly

Better get 'er checked, or perhaps I was a bit too dry. I thought "plus they aren't dead" would clinch it...
   11. wjones Posted: November 10, 2017 at 01:44 PM (#5574171)
Stan Kasten was part of the ownership group spearheaded by Magic Johnson who bought the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2012. He has been serving as team President for the Dodgers since then. He's not moving back to Atlanta from the Dodgers, to take a demotion to work for a guy he's now a direct line peer of (Schuerholz is team President in ATL.)

Yeah, I remember Kasten going to Dodgers, but for whatever reason thought he had left after all the front office changes over the last several years. Was thinking that Friedman had that role now. Not sure why I thought he had gone to Washington. And I was thinking that when Kasten was in Atlanta he was also Team President and JS reported, theorectically, to him.

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